eternity?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by itsallgood, Feb 10, 2010.

  1. tanasi

    tanasi Member

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    LOL!:iagree:
     
  2. itsallgood

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    lol iam still baffeled
     
  3. FreshDacre

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    Time keeps going on forever no matter what happens within all that time, because that is the way it has always been. All you need to know, is that everyone dies so nothing matters just be happy and think outside the box.
     
  4. itsallgood

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    i know but how the fuck did it even begin???????
     
  5. FreshDacre

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    Why do you think there has to be a beginning?? Thats not how time works there was no point where time went: begin time sequence NOW. If there was than wasn't that the Big Bang?
    Anyways I think that there has always been life of some kind.
     
  6. aydinerro

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    True, not everything needs a beginning.



    And if you really think about it, who the fuck cares how it started?
     
  7. Sir-.-'nOOBalloT

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    lol I do.


    I was thinking that at the beginning well there was no beginning I mean before the big bangs and our perceivable realitys beginning there was and always has been a static universe of nothingness. Am not really sure how to explain it what I see in my head this place its truly endless its not expending nor contracting it lurks at absolute zero temperature and absolute darkens its a ocean of absolute zeros what I mean by that its made out of lack of information as in binary code 10001011 this may represent number 12 to a machine that can interpret binary digital data as information, well this static universe is made out of 00000...


    As this place is truly infinite what I mean if a space ship would fly in a strait line there, it would not eventually end up at the starting point it would just fly forever in to new but still identical ocean of zeros am not sure that movement is even possible there because of this fact, as in technical sense that we would imagine movement to be. Anyways because the static universe is truly endless the code of zeros can not be perfect some enigmas occur within the infinite sea of static time and static space. I dunno how or why but some zeros may merge to make a 1 or maybe naturally very rarely 1s are born do to massive quantity's of self replicating nothingness of zeros.


    Now within nothingness anything different from it would be a something so these 1s would be some weird unknown particle. Again I don't know why or how maybe some force resembling gravity pulls these 1s in to lumps or maybe just do to randomness within eternity they hit each other and stick together making ever bigger spheres of this stuff and I would imagine that there are lots of these spheres growing randomly all over the place still separated by unimaginable distastes so there would not be just one universe like ours but many.


    Ones a sphere becomes so big that internal pressure cannot resist its own gravity it collapses to make a black hole. Or as I said before movement is a weird phenomena within the static universe maybe these 1s simply collide at such unimaginable speeds that sufficient energy levels are reach to create a stable microscopic black hole a bit like large hadron collider could do.


    So when a black hole is created it keeps on traveling through the static universe picking up more and more of these1s. I know we say that black hole loses mass over time do to hawlking radiation well maybe the theory is wrong or maybe things just work differently in the static universe. What am saying maybe the black holes singularity at some point reaches some weird critical mass which triggers an explosion of space and time as we know it in other words the big bang.


    Does this BS make any sense to u? Coz am not sure myself.
     
  8. aydinerro

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    I think I totally connect with what you're saying.
    honestly, when I did shrooms I feel like I glimpsed that eternally vast nothingness and it frightened the shit out of me.

    But as we say, if a space ship flies in a straight line there, it doesn't matter if it would end up at the same place that it started because all is the same within the unending space. So there would be no "same place as it started" there would only be nothingness.

    Do you know what I mean?
     
  9. Sir-.-'nOOBalloT

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    Yeah dude kinda defines nothingness.
     
  10. tanasi

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    seriously, that is a question that depends on which culture,custom,religion,myth,or scientific discipline the answer comes from.One would say "in the beginning there was the word an the word was God", while another would say "when we came from the pleaides", and yet another endorses the big bang.

    As an old medicine man once said," Ya need to get on indian time, white man time will give ya stomach cancer".
     
  11. Sir-.-'nOOBalloT

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  12. aydinerro

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    that thing is fucking insane!
     
  13. FreshDacre

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    Yeah its fuckin trippy shit nice. That would be cool to know whats outside of the universe.
     
  14. aydinerro

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    No it wouldn't.
    This universe is too much already. Hah.
     
  15. FreshDacre

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    Mabey for you but I'm in it to win it :D
    I wonder if there actually is a point where our universe ends? Mabey that's the thing is that there is only one universe and it loops around and goes on forever.
     
  16. 1drifter

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    i think God, religion,the destiney of man, time and space are all a part of our mind evolving
    we are learning to think outside the box that we live in--just think what we will be like in 1 billion years
     
  17. 1drifter

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    Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
    red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
    lets me see.
    As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
    drawn beyond the lines of reason.
    Push the envelope. Watch it bend.

    Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
    Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
    Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines.

    Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
    red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
    lets me see there is so much more
    and beckons me to look through to these infinite possibilities.
    As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
    drawn outside the lines of reason.
    Push the envelope. Watch it bend.

    Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
    Withering my intuition leaving all these opportunities behind.

    Feed my will to feel this moment urging me to cross the line.
    Reaching out to embrace the random.
    Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.

    I embrace my desire to
    feel the rhythm, to feel connected
    enough to step aside and weep like a widow
    to feel inspired, to fathom the power,
    to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain,
    to swing on the spiral
    of our divinity and still be a human.

    With my feet upon the ground I lose myself
    between the sounds and open wide to suck it in,
    I feel it move across my skin.
    I'm reaching up and reaching out,
    I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
    And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
    We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.

    Spiral out. Keep going, going...

    --tool
     
  18. Sir-.-'nOOBalloT

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    Do u really think human race will still be here after a billion years. I dunno maybe but one thing for sure if our ancestors would make it that long they wont be humans anymore. I think after such long time we would be more machine with a soul then man. I said it before and say it again apes to humans humans to transformers.


    And who knows maybe just maybe in machine form we could outlast the eternity and witness the end of our universe if it ever to collapse back in to a singularity... by crossing the edge or more like exit trough a worm hole in to a parallel universe and a new time line. Come to think about it our universe may exist for ever so the crossing universes could be done just for fun lol so that Christians could spread the word around the know realty like in south park .I wonder if old or new religion still be riding our minds after a billion years?
     
  19. famewalk

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    That we don't really know about the End for a religious way. Not a paradox, but just the future being projected as such had a feeling that our morals were impersonal and for the empty lives.;)
     
  20. MokshaMedicine

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    Again we're looking behind and too far forward for the answer to the "eternal" question. I think eternity can be experienced in a single moment. Isn't that love?

    Can we not fall in love to experience this truth?
     
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