Ether in LSD synthesis

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You seem to not comprehend that the pre-cursors and some of the chemicals are themselves controlled as much as the final drug itself.
But you said it above, nobody who actually has the ability, access and intelligence to actually produce LSD is fucking stupid enough to blabber about it on a public forum. My guess is those who do make LSD only allow a very small handful of people know about it. If you don't think that the DEA doesn't keep tabs on sites such as this and other drug sites, you are very naive to say the least. May I also point out that if Skip were approached concerning your online activity here by some federal agency, he isn't going to risk his freedom and livelihood to cover your ass;



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All these guys are correct. Drug precursors are more tightly controlled than even the end product. Doesn't make sense, except that meth labs (what they usually target and everything else gets hit by the splash damage) tend to explode, catch fire, or spew toxic gas into residential areas... big and bad publicity when that happens. Where as meth itself just ruins a person's life, whom most people would say didn't have the self control or deserved it or something.

I've had a visit from 2 DEA agents doing a routine check because I purchased a large (according to them) quantity of glassware. I have a legitimate use, and even at the time a bachelors degree in the subject. I didn't fit the profile of a meth lab producer and they left not long after they arrived, which made me happy because I had a shit ton of illegal or semi-legal drugs around my apartment. Even if I have to order one little beaker now I always ship it to my work adress.

Very polite gentlemen, but I was very glad to see them go.

 

You don't know SHIT, boy.

It's this little thing called the patriot act. They don't need any sort of warrant to watch exactly who you are, and if you confess to all this, they don't need jack shit for a warrant, I'm currently bailed because of someone elses facebook which they set up to look like mine for a warrant, the difference is it's obviously not me so i can fight the warrant, you'll be FUCKED. There are any number of laws they can use, if you're not EVEN using a proxy, as you're pretty much agreeing to in this post I'm quoting, it takes NOTHING to find exactly who you are, and no, there not JUST after LSD labs, they're after anything they can get. There's plenty of charges for INTENT, and you've confessed to plenty of intentions.

It is a problem with the internet, that very little of what's posted on it is true, but that's never stopped them before. There is a man in jail, right now, for posting a dirty bomb threat on a message board that's clearly labeled as FICTION. (well it was, but the FBI took it over, so they removed the fiction statement to bust people easier)

To above poster, it's quite horrifying that they can just show up because you purchase glass.... That's nowhere near probably cause of anything. I mean, you can do plenty of illegal things with it, but so? you can do plenty of illegal things with half the things in any supermarket... That tends to speak worse for the law that criminalizes those things, than those things themselves.

 

and God knows Crack dealers are not communicating here..

 

Hey I said it in my first post that this was all putative. I'm just curious as to how I'd go about doing it not that I'd actually do it. IF the DEA wants to harass me about simply talking about it let me deal with that but who says I would actually put this into action?

 

Like I said, there's a man in prison for making terroristic threats, for threatening to bomb an NFL statium... or something like that.... on an annonymous board for FICTION, which is not where muslim extremists go, not to mention he wasen't a muslim extreemist. There's kids as young as 14 that have been convicted on similar charges. You have no comprehension of their web or it's size, and the fact that you don't have to do anything to go to jail. You've said things here that could be diverted into dozens of "intent" or "threat" style charges....

 

io

 

Making massive amounts of dangerous mind altering, insanity generating substances to aid in the imposition of sharia law sounds like a terroristic plot to me:mickey:

Pickard will NEVER get out. Just think about it. Pretty sure that makes just wanting and planning, much less TRYING to one up him a crime.

 

@ RooRshack - Are you saying someone made a facebook page to impersonate you and you were arrested because of it? That's fucked up man.

And this might be a dumb question, but could deithyl ether be used?

 

Well not quite, but essentially. There's an abandoned facebook belonging to someone who appears to live on the opposite seaboard from me, which was used in a warrant against me as the main evidence, but they basically had lots on my roomate (well it LOOKED like it, even though they obviously didn't, because he didn't do anything or get arrested) and some made up stuff on me. It seems that they had a confidential informant, but the confidentiality isn't working so well for him, because he was telling everyone I was in jail before anyone but my room mate should have known, and talking general shit about me in ways that where obviously untrue...

This all because the word of a CI isn't good enough on a warrant for obvious reasons (like the possability that the CI doesn't really exist) but they can take info from a CI and use it to get a warrant. So they took my name+his grudge, found a facebook with my name that had an image they thought supported their assertation about me, and showed up to raid my room.

The cops know they fucked up, they where going to pursue more charges, and aside from picking me up and changing two of them because they where too inept to read the law the first time around, they haven't done anything. Also, they seemed quite suprised to find me and my room mate both white guys, we both have biblical first names and uncommon last names, they where expecting to find black guys, then once they took me in they kept talking about LA graffiti gangs or something... I'm just that hood, I guess:afro:

(I think they also wanted to keep me out of jail as much as possible once they figured what they have on their hands, I'm type 1 diabetic, they couldn't deal with it properly, or even as the law states they have to, at the jail, and chances are I won't survive being in state jail on the state jail felonies i'm facing, if i can't get my justice. Diabetics are notorious for dieing in jail, it's not like on "prison break")

But enough about me, this thread is about how the OP will be framed, not myself, I already was

*edit* DAMN I'm good at shitting out illegible walls of text at the drop of a hat. I was planning on a two sentence reply

 

wow, thats not cool at all.

 

Alright, conspiracy brother. First of all I see that you have taken the title "Skinhead". If that's true maybe YOU'VE found that the first amendment no longer applies to you because our society now considers your type extremely undesirable(ironic, considering your group's philosophies). The truth is I have really have NO intent in manufacturing LSD. I actually am just interested in writing a fictional book on it because it would be an interesting story if done well. Let the DEA arrest me for my postings on this site if you're right. All that would happen is in about 5 minutes after my arrest they would have a high-powered lawyer up their ass. With the new threats of terrorism you have a point in that the government is taking a lot more powers in the fight of that particular crime, but the Constitution is still there. I've committed no crime here; honestly how many times do you here about a drug bust where they cannot furnish any drugs in court. Still doesn't make sense; not in America. The day they start arresting people wide spread for putative crimes that aren't terrorism(because terrorism by its very definition can include the mere act of threatening), America is dead.

 

My title is in reference to the fact that I was recently forced to shave off my locks, due to the legal situation described 4 posts above this one.

Novelist, LSD chemist, racecar driver, you should be worried about the government, and the fact that they basically don't need anything TRUE to send you to jail. I, again, feel the need to mention that there are lots of people in jail for internet "trolling" that a law enforcement officer with a stick up his ass saw.

Also of note might be these articles, recently posted elsewhere in the forum (pays to never close your firefox tabs)

*SPECIFICALLY THIS ONE* http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/monitoring-america/1/

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17521/espionage_act_makes_felons_of_us_all

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40707906

All the best... If you ARE writing a novel, and publish, do tell us about it...

 

Oh I will. There are many films about drugs like cocaine, but is there a drug manufacturer more brilliant or resourceful than the LSD chemist?

 

I'm pretty sure mescaline is more dangerous to make, if that's what you mean

Well synthetic psychedelics, in general, are very dangerous to make. But I suppose, I see your point.

 

Ooohhh this is interesting:
"...no person shall be prosecuted, tried, or punished for any offense, not capital, unless the indictment is found or the information is instituted within five years next after such offense shall have been committed." This means that the Federal Government must file an information, or seek an indictment, within 5 years.
That's from the constitution, so that means to the potential acid chemist the federal government can only use these postings as evidence in a window of five years.

 

Ahh, but can't it be a capital offence, depending on the quantity of LSD and other chemicals in question, and the transportation/use that they're put to, especially accross state lines and the like? I could be wrong...

 

Wow Roor, you went from a dreadhead to skinhead?
Now that is definitly a drastic change in philosophy.

 

Guess I need to update my avatar... "give eugenics a chance"