Every Women: Anti-Abortion and Anti-Life

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by rockforlife, Aug 30, 2004.

  1. retrofishie

    retrofishie Senior Member

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    wow! i really appreciate your reply. i disagree but that's ok, thanks for just stating what you think and not attacking me for what i think. I'm glad that some people still know how to seperate a debate/conversation from character attack.
    if everyone agreed on everything life would suck. it doesn't matter who is right or who is wrong aslong as we can accept eachothers differences and faults and praise their differences and talents.
     
  2. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    Absolutley:) I am just curious though as to what makes you feel that way....that every women who has an abortion will regret it. ???
     
  3. retrofishie

    retrofishie Senior Member

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    My mother was on the board for the pregnancy crisis support center. she did alot of public speaking about abortions and i went with her alot as an example basically. to keep a long story short: he said me or the baby, everyone else said do whatever you want, so being young she just went and did it, didn't know anything about it first (and yes, that is partly her fault, but its the doctors resoponciblilty aswell). i don't know much about her experience, as it was i didn't find out till i was 14. anyways, exactly one year to the day of her abortion she found out she was pregnant with me. and everyone said the same things, but because she knew different she said screw em, and had me (he was out of the picture obviously). she would show my pics and say "this is what you are destroying" etc...

    i understand peoples different oppinions on abortion. "i'm not financially stable enough for a child" while that is a valid concern, not many people ever will be, does that meant that only the rich and famous should have children? my mom was on welfare when i was little, she could have gone out and worked so that she would be stable, but she spent time with me instead and that was an amazing choice, i'm not saying everywoman should stay home no matter what, i'm saying that my mother was not financially stable and I don't regret being born.
    the other popular oppinion is that if the child is going to have a handicap. my feelings on this are very very simple ~ go find a person with a handicap, any age, anywhere, now ask them if they resent their mother for carrying them to term knowing about the handicap. ask them if they wish she had "terminated" their life because they are different.
    and yes, can't forget the 'rape' aspect. and to that one I don't think that there is any answer, atleast i don't have one. I tottally understand not wanting that mans child, and i can't say what i would do if that was me, i really can't. i have never spoken to someone that was raped and found herself pregnant, so i can't even begin to comprehend all the emotions and feelings that go along with it.

    but same as always, no matter what women decide to do, or what situation they find themselves in, education is the key, love is necessary, and comfort is a must. I think that it should be standard proceedure though for a girl/woman considering abortion should sit down with a couple that want children and can't have them. not cuz i think they should be guilted into having the child, but so many people have a bad view on adoption, it's a wonderful thing.
    when there are soo many people that want children and have a huge heart full of love for children, and sooo many women having abortions (for whatever reason) it's kinda like standing infront of a hungry person, taking one bite out of a sandwich then throwing it out and stomping on it, or doing something so that the hungry person can't have it.
    I understand that its hard to give up a baby. Here in canada abortions are legal right up to just before giving birth, so why not just carry the baby a few more weeks and give it to someone? if after 8-9 months of pregnancy a girl can have an abortion, i don't understand how it would be harder to give it away.
     
  4. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    Well, like I said retro, I respect your opinion 100% :) and Im not trying to have a debate with ya or anything, but I do just want you to know that while many women...maybe even a majority I dont really know, I havent done the math.....might regret their decision at some point....there are also those who dont regret it and never do. I am not only speaking from personal experiance but also from the friends I know who have had the same experiance. Im not saying that there isnt a sadness that acompany's the experiance, Im just saying that there are those of us who made the decision because it was for the best (whatever reason) and with that there is no regret at all. I hope that doesnt sound heartless.....cause that's not what I mean. I'm sure you understand....so I just wanted you to know that not everyone does have regrets or will in the future.
    Peace
     
  5. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    That's exactly what I was trying to say. My friend may have been sad that it had to happen, but she doesn't regret her decision.

    And I was never trying to attack your character. I was just saying how many pro-lifers idea's of keeping people informed about abortion include over-exaggerating the bad, and not being completely honest about any of the good.

    For example: Saying things like every woman regrets her abortion at some point.
     
  6. retrofishie

    retrofishie Senior Member

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    there are many different degrees of regret, not necessarily wishing a different choice was made, or different timing etc....

    anyways, i just wish people were more educated on the whole subject. I just found a video via ultrasound of an abortion being done and while it's not gory visuals it still makes me sick. i'm not gonna post it but if anyone wants it i can give you the link.
     
  7. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Are you sure about that? I always hear this as an antiabortion tactic, but it is certainly NOT true in the US. You cannot get a third trimester abortion on demand. Even in cases of health, womyn in my state (IL) have to go elsewhere to have a health related abortion after 26 weeks or so.

    The falacy that you can just walk into an abortion clinic in your 38th week of pregnancy and demand an abortion is just that, falacy. In most places it is legal in the first trimester, difficult in the second, and almost impossible (in some places it IS impossilbe) in the third.

    No one is walking into clinics and aborting full term fetuses.
     
  8. retrofishie

    retrofishie Senior Member

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    yes i am sure, here in canada it is tottaly legal to abort babies at 9 months. and in many places it is encouraged because the baby body parts are then sold for 'science' (disgusting!!!) the brain gets the most money, $999.
     

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