Evolution

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by ObjetdArte, May 30, 2009.

  1. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    God is omniscient and omnipotent, but lay off him, He's only human.
     
  2. def zeppelin

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    Good movie, I likey.
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Personally I agree that the Christianity and evolution are incompatible concepts but there a lot of Christians that don't think that they are incompatible.
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Oh, you really got me with that one. :rolleyes:

    You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. ;)
     
  5. Skizm

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    Bacteria developing resistances to anti-biotics. What say ye!?



    EDIT: As for compatibility between evolution and Christianity, I believe it exists. You can say that evolution is how life advances but is guided by the Judeo-Christian god. HOWEVER, doesn't this seem like an admission of defeat by the Christians? I'm not looking at this from the viewpoint of "Haha! Atheists-1 Crazy theists doods-0" mind you.

    It just feels like Christians are saying "Science has us cornered, let's compromise."
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    There are any number of ways to make your self regurgitate, without sticking your finger down your throat. In any case the Gag reflex is not primarily to prevent poisoning there are other mechanisms for that, the Gag reflex is like I said primarily to prevent choking, the regurgitation would clear what is hung up in the throat near the windpipe.

    Still, you didn't answer why anyone would "play with it"?

    That is not a G-spot, per say, that is your prostate, touching it makes one feel like they have to urinate, do you really get some kind of "sexual satisfaction" from feeling like you have to urinate?

    How is that different? Yes, one is better made than the other but that doesn't mean that both can't be misused.

    I can't see that it's a question. These "features" are used and they are not hard to use, they are just not supposed to be "used" the way you're trying to use them, that is why they seem hard to "use" for you.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

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    I'll ask you as well, what difference does that make? ;)
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

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    God is what he wants to be, what you think God should be or not be, does not effect who God is. ;)
     
  9. Freedom_Man

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    yes thats what i think as well... i thin its just a simple way of saying, my belief in evolutionary theory, is making me kinda lose my faith, but hey im sure i can fit it in somewhere to keep my faith.


    "Personally I agree that the Christianity and evolution are incompatible concepts but there a lot of Christians that don't think that they are incompatible. "

    yeah but i think they are wrong... lol.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    Once again, I believe you've hit it right on the nose. It's a shame that they don't have enough faith in their own faith. ;)
     
  11. Hoatzin

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    Please stop, this is just embarrassing. I know you're an old man, but really.

    Without believing that any part of the body is "supposed" or "not supposed" to do what can be done with it, I don't follow your argument. You still seem to be ducking the question of why God is such a bad designer.
     
  12. Hoatzin

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    Certain theories of evolution are incompatible with certain denominations of Christianity. A deist, for example, he no reason to dispute what evidence of evolution exists, because he believes that the universe was simply "set in motion" by God. Others believe that evolution is the process by which God creates, but I think (as I mentioned in a thread in the Atheism subforum about "guided evolution") that this implies a lack of understanding of what evolution is purported to be.

    Either way, the two needn't be incompatible, and that's why I have limited sympathy for those atheists who think they are using Science to attack Religion.
     
  13. def zeppelin

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    These old man comments are really beginning to tick me off, honestly. If you want to argue, then argue like an adult. Argue against the points at hand and lay off this 'old man', nonsense.

    Having a very elderly grandmother, I am going to be a bit appalled when age is factored into ad hominem comments.

    Lay off, please.
     
  14. Skizm

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    When your ability to argue starts to fail you insult someone's character. It is just how things work.
     
  15. def zeppelin

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    Definitely.
     
  16. Skizm

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    shut up old man! i can't compete! arg!:mad:
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

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    I will stop, I didn't know that what you do embarrasses you but you did bring it up.

    You asked me, someone who believes the human body was designed, why certain parts of the body seem ill designed for what you want to do with it?

    Of course I'm going to answer from a designed viewpoint.

    The simple answer is that you only think it's badly designed because you want to do things with it was not design to do, of course a toaster is a badly designed hammer because it wasn't designed to be a hammer but that is not the fault of the designer. The body is well designed, if you use it the way it was intended.
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

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    If one chooses to throw out what Christianity is, to allow for evolution, then they really aren't "Christians" any more are they?
     
  19. def zeppelin

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    LuL :cool:
     
  20. Skizm

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    Back to my old question, OWB can you please extrapolate on why you think bacteria develops resistances to anti-biotics the more they are exposed to them?
     

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