Fat People

the thing is that the initial cost of equipping a kitchen is an investment that pays off later, I've been collecting cooking equipment since I was 10, I'll never have to worry about needing something to cook in when I move out, once you've invested in your kitchen though if you are able and willing to spend the time to cook good meals then you can do some truly wonderful things

I can think of probably 5 dishes off the top of my head where you just have to rusticly cut the ingredients, toss them into a roasting pan and just leave them in the oven overnight, you could come back the next morning and have something to act as centrepiece to all your meals so easily

the only reason people use fast food as a crutch is because people want to believe that they have to......

 

I'm fat...and pissed. I'm gonna sit on one of you.

 

fat people always threaten to do that

 

Try reading "Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting by in America" you are also making the assumption that you will never (dog forbid) end up with the clothing on your back and no job.

 

but does fast food make it any better?

were the person to invest ahead, hell just get a roasting pan around the holidays they'd be ahead, you'd be amazed what you can do with a roasting pan and almost any sort of meat

I really want to know what percent of americans are on welfare and spend money on cable\satellite t.v. shit like that, then bitch that they can't afford anything (notice I did not include internet, I recognize that it isa valuable means by which to aquire employment and is if utilized correctly a tool and not a luxury)

btw, you could go to the camp section of walmart, get a stockpot (not a nice one, but a stockpot nonetheless) for under ten dollars, and cook on a propane stove were you to not have facilities in which to cook, ane I still suspect with fuel that it would be cheaper than fast food....

 

It seems other people are more bothered by fat people than fat people. They bother me personally, on a serious note, because their all very overconsumptive in a world where some can't even be consumptive... But the vibes that surround them are what would motivate me to shed the pounds if I had any left to shed(I'm vegetarian, lol : )

And the whole genetically fat argument, I don't really buy that. Genetically more prone for fatness than others, maybe... but did early man ever get fat from birth by genes? Wouldnt the truly fat gene have died out from not surviving???

 

It seems other people are more bothered by fat people than fat people are by themselves oftentimes. They bother me personally, on a serious note, because their all very overconsumptive in a world where many can't even be consumptive. Then again, even un-'fat' people are very over fed as well, and would be considered by the few tribal cultures left in the world to be overweight and slow moving. But the awkward vibes that surround so called fat people are what would motivate me to shed the pounds if I had any left to shed(I'm vegetarian working towards vegan, lol : ) It's like a stone people carry around with them that they keep getting stuck on, that stop them from truly progressing or learning anything from life.

And the whole genetically fat argument, I don't really buy that. Genetically more prone for fatness than others, maybe... but did early man ever get fat from birth by genes? Wouldnt the truly fat gene have died out from not surviving???

 

skinny people eat less hence take their time and enjoy the food more id say.

fat people stuff their guts. thats not food appreciation.

 

I agree with everything you have said about how a person should prepare etc. However, I do not think you have addressed the situation of a person without a car, making minimum wage, in a large city. Many of these people are women. Have a talk with the maid at a motel sometime. You have to be in a fair sized city to find work. Cheep places to live in the city give you a very hard time about cooking in your room. They do not want you to burn the place down. Your job – Wal-Mart – food stores are likely to be a fair distance apart. Minimum wage jobs are hard. You do not have a lot of energy left to do much but get a shower and get some sleep. Yes with effort – planning and working your way up, you can get out of that money trap. But many people never do it. They pin their hopes on finding a new husband who will be better than the abusive one that kicked them out with nothing. There are a fair number of people who work every day and still are poor as hell. Yes, there are individuals and families who ride the ADC and SSI programs for a free lunch. However, the working poor are a significant problem in our country.

We of course do not have the level of starvation that you find in some other countries. However, we clam to have a functional society with a social safety net. My assertion is that it works very poorly for some folks. There is also a social factor. It may be cheaper and more cost effective to eat alone in your room, but it is hard on your spirit.

 

and we are then to assume that no city has public transit?

 

When I started this thread I never imagined it would become the sociological debate it has become.
Thanx all for your contributions

 

oh hush, you aren't worthy of what this thread has become

 

well said....he has contributed less here than I have. and I haven't put shit into this one

 

it's like the absentee father who wants to claim responsibility for his son once he wins the heismann..... pathetic....

 

I'll bet he is that father.....

 

could be why he's so insecure

 

Relying on public transportation isn't exactly a piece of cake either... One is restricted in their job search to positions on or near the bus line or train/subway. Also one must make considerable allowances for train or bus routes and schedules.

If I were to lose use of my car and had to use the bus I would need to figure out what bus combination would get me as close to work as possible and be available early enough for the first bus ride that I don't get to work late... accounting for the fact that I'll be taking buses with intersecting routes and have to plan for a couple waits that will last 10 or 15 minutes each... Instead of jumping in my car at 1:30 to make it to work ny 2pm, I'll need to be waiting for the first bus by noon at the latest... relying on mass transit can add 2 hours or more to one's daily schedule just for transportation to and from work. This alone can take a toll... add to that the fact that many lower paid jobs juggle shifts and people find themselves working an evening shift and have to be in to open up the next day leaving little time or energy to do much of anything. For its convenience, fast food is pretty damned cheap.

 

before we had been assuming that the person had been only walking, public transit is certainly an upgrade, esp. if you are only using it for errands....

 

It can be an upgrade from walking but that doesn't make using it easy or convenient.

 

depends upon ones planning skills