Hey if Bush is re-ellected it may become a reallity... Nuclear fallout of a kind we have never known before... God knows what would happen when gradual exposure and radiation sickness have tolerance...
dead/alive (or braindead) is definately my favorite. I think it has the most creative way to kill a zombie, or should i say, a whole roomfull of zombies. Plus, how can you not love the zombie baby. Honourable mentions go to: Undead - watch out for the zombie fish! Dead And Breakfast - You think normal zombies are bad, just watch out for buddhist zombies. And how can you go wrong with zombies and line dancing. Day of the Dead - Bub hasta be the coolest zombie ever.
Heh on a side note, If I had 10 bucks I'd open up a personal forum here about all this goofy stuff. How to combat zombies, Nuclear holocaust survival methods. Makeshift barricades and the like.
have you guys read Max Brooks' Zombie Survival Guide? it's pretty good, you can find a few flaws, but everyones gonna disagree on some points as to how one should seek to survive. Max Brooks is the son of Mel Brooks, which we all know and love from such classics as space balls. and im thinking of becoming a supporter, maybe i'll make a post apocolypse forum.
1) WHAT is the worst thing to have on a house? A) A screen door in the back. B) A set of two windows close to the ground. C) A Large Backyard. D) A weak, old front door. As troublesome as the deficiencies of your fortification point can be, a large backyard would be the worst in my books. The larger the area you must protect and maintain, the worse. The best way of preventing zombie ambush is knowing where they are, and knowing the area well. Staying inside with less chance of escape is a foolish idea when considering that you can keep the surrounding area clear in case of zombie mobbing. Clear the area, keep watch, fall back into the house if necessary. Besides, setting traps/decoys/physical barriers in outside terrains would help vastly. 2) WHERE do you go in case of a zombie attack on your city? A) A friend's place. B) Police station. C) Basement, and wait for things to blow over. D) A local store for supplies. While any zombie-survivalist with a brain will have no need to travel to any of these places, because the necessary preparations have already been made, I must choose C. Police stations will be flooded with the panicked. Grocery/department stores will be full of riots and looters, and danger of getting shot by others is something to be considered. If need be, I would suggest somewhere with food that is less high-profile, like your neighbors pantry (another reason to be wary, people may try to loot your house), or a corner store. And unless your friend is a zombie-survilaist-killing-machine, I wouldn't suggest making your way there. Try to team up with the mentally stable and physically strong. Possibly neighbors. But for the average individual, the best choice would basically be to stay at your homestead, in order to secure and fortify. While a gun is invaluable in these situations, a heavy, elongated blunt object to knock down/subdue the rot-wagons will do in a jiffy. Zombies aren't acrobats, and once they are on the ground, it will take them awhile to regain their bearings, unless they are ankle-biters. In that case, be sure to have some thick boots and your lucky socks. Aggressive tactics are necessary in some times, but defense is the key. A shovel could definately because your most effective weapon of all. Pits (as mentioned in previous posts), barriers, piles for vantage points, and the like will all help in situations like these. And a solid shovel will be more than enough to take down a single undead. But traps and pits are a must. Indirect combat is ALWAYS more effective than direct combat. 3) WHAT would you try to attain if you were fighting zombies? A) A big thick winter jacket with snowpants. B) A Leather jacket and leather pants. C) A kevlar vest with leather pants. D) Steel toed boots, with all of the above. Given these choices, I would have to go with B. Leather/Jean Pants/Jackers are a nice medium between lightweight and durable clothing, and will provide the best protection when taking various situations into account. In a previous post an interesting point was raised, the possibility of speed over protection. While having lightweight materials to get away, one must not forget the universal karma that leads all those who try to escape zombies to a nice fat in-escapable zombie mob. It might come down to a close-up and personal fight. Just in case of this, I would have to duct-tape/graft pieces of sheet metal or wooden planks onto my forearms, in order to add that little advantage one might need in hand-to-head combat. A well-rounded outfit will have you prepared for any situation, or at least you can hope. Now everyone, search your house. I want you to find a weapon you will use in case you spot an undead outside your house, and then let's hear what you find. I found an old wood-axe. Short handle, double sided, a little worn and weathered, but handleable. I plan to sharpen it soon.
Only if I can co mod =D.... otherwise I'd be sad... Idea stolened and all... Moonlapse I'd like to discuss some of your points. (My weapon happens to be a bent metal grate with several twisted bits of metal on the end. Its kinda like a club not a plank. That or my bat with a spike through it [which reminds me I need to find it] I broke the hilt off my homemade sword :\) You bring up a good enemy most zombie heads dont consider. Other humans. When you take into account people panicing and going after other humans... Gets scar(ier?)y... However I think that people would be to involved with their goals to worry about other looters (I've been in a riot kinda >_>) and so I really have to disagree about the location. I think it'd be a horrible idea to pin yourself down somewhere where you will have very limited supplies and only makeshift weapons. Sure you may have about 1000 molotov cocktails worth of chemicals in your garage but this doesnt help in close quarters combat. It is VITAL that you get away and get supplied and find a much better fortification point because lets face facts, a house is a very open place. Most houses have at least 5-10 forcible entry points (Doors- front and back- garage, windows, or even weak walls) A lot of people believe in just surviving till dawn. But lets not forget that these arent vampires. Sun wont bug these creatures. I'm talking about surving indefinatlly. Academy is the perfect place. They have crates of sugary food and drinks to keep you going and plenty of the blessed firearms. Another good thing about Academy is its open space. Many feel that its better to be in a more narrow location when combating zombies but I disagree. While it does make it easier by reducing the numbers to one to two at a time (We've all seen it work in Diablo) you run the risk of backing yourself into a corner or worse, stumbling into another horde. Again this would be a good time for body armor but if in an open area you wont even need it. Using your superior manuverabillity you can get out of the way, make a quick reload and fight on. Remember you can choose what kind of situation you get stuck in based simply upon the routes you use. For example. If one were to leave their house at back, take the back alley cut accross a few yards and into their friends house you run across several problems. A) The alley. BAD place to be cornered. Then while using yards instead of the road you gain a slight stealth advantage but as we've said, zombies dont really rely on sight (Notice how most have their eyes rolled back in their head, or not even in?) and you run the extra risk of becoming pinned up against a house you might not be able to enter. So we deduce that the best place to be is in the middle of the street when your fleeing. I'd like to take a brief moment to pause and address your weapon choice. While a bludgeon will due, they have no comparison to and edged weapon when dealing with zombies. A cleaver may have less reach then a sledge but you can swing it faster and go right for the decap. Ax's are the exception I feel. They are a cross between bludgeon and blade. The main problem is they are heavy and cumbersom to swing in a kill fasion. Going one on one would be fine but when you up the odds then things get hairy. A hatchet is very good because their easilly thrown if needed and you can make quick zombie sushi when armed with 2. However you will never convince me their is a better zombie melee weapon then a Katana. You simply can not beat the weight, the balence and sheer power behind a katana. You'll be hacking off zombie heads in no time. However many people dont just have these laying around. Not a problem. Using duct tape and and axe handle you can make a very nice polearm... Anyway thats my bit on edged vs blunt. To sum up blunt weapons can knock a zombie down but dont have the speed and stopping power of a blade. Now what happens if you run into said zombie mob after turning a corner? (everyone worst nightmare.) First understand, you will see them first and have the initative edge. You will have only a few moments before they see you and in this time you must decide, turn and live or stay and die? Lets be realistic here. Without guns your stuck with hand to hand and it takes a shit load of bludgening to take down a zombie. Even if you have a blade how many can you take down before they overrun you? No in this situation, fighting is not an option. You need to find a detour. Now if you went for armor your not gonna be able to haul ass nearly as much as the dude in light weight but durable combat fatigues. You also have more trouble climbing. Leather is VERY heavy. Also the heat of leather will wind you faster. I gladly sacrifice this little bit of protection that really can protect you on a zombie to zombie basis and wont be able to save you from the horde. So you turn and run. Let the dead guy who wants to fight tell you about the shame of running. You have to live remember. Fuck sacrificing yourself for another. Its just one more zombie warrior and better them being part of the undead than you because you know how to fight. In all fairness I don't think anyone without firearms could head on take more then 10 zombies in closed quarters. The fact they the simply keep coming is enough to stop you. Remember that you should only go after those solitary zombies in close combat simply because if there are too many you cant take them out. Armor will not save you from the horde and any self respecting zombie warrior wont need armor to take out the individuals. Again this part is VERY IMPORTANT! Kill every zombie you can because our dead make up a larger army for them and their are lots of stupid pricks who are gonna die right off because they dont know what their doing. You will though. Rembember their will be no real calvery to save you. This thing will not simply blow over. You may be stuck in a building for months. Which is another thing. If your in a city, get your weapons and supplies then get in a building and demolish the stairs when your higher up. Shoot out a window and pick off zombies like crazy.
I totally agree about the weapon. Guns suck when it comes to close quarters. The zombies may not be fast (or they might be, we don't know), but fast or not, they still keep coming. For a normal citizen, it'd probably take 2 shots to take down a zombie at best, because of the aiming issue, and if you are using something with little ammunition in a clip, you're fucked. I thought about weight and temperature when I made the question including zombie outfits, and I think that my answer would have to be the leather. It's quite durable, and easy to find, well, most likely easier to find than Kevlar. Combat fatigues are something I didn't quite take into consideration however. They are durable and light, therefor in a realistic zombie fighting situation, they'd be the number one choice of any smart zombie hunter. Now, as far as weapons go, you need something with a big range, but also something that is durable, and something that is effective against hordes. I was thinking about something like an aluminum baseball bat with a blade welded onto the end. It'd have to be a good welding job, and considering aluminum is quite a bit lighter than something like a 4x4 with spikes and nails on the end, not to mention more effective, it'd be a much better zombie killing weapon. If I had a choice on my zombie weapon, and time to make it, that'd be my first pick. My friend already has his weapon picked out. It doesn't seem like the BEST weapon, but it could kill some zombies indeed. Other humans. When going to a store or police station (although you wouldn't right away of course), there will always be people hanging out, ripping the stores to shreds. And of course, they'll be looking out for anything that looks like a zombie. You know the kind of guy that's an asshole for no fucking reason, maybe it's someone you went to school with, or someone you are friends with, but can barely stand, well, that'd the kind of guy at the store. And if they aren't like that, they will be before they leave the store. People turn into idiots at the drop of a hat, and it would be exactly like a savage riot. Streets would be full of overturned cars, and jackasses would loot everything. Not saying that looting is a bad thing, but I'm sure for no reason, there'll be a guy running down the street, holding a stolen PS2 in his hands. Someone has to make a personal forum about this....seriously....
Fuck it. I'm gonna try to register by next weekend... Penny will get mad if she discovers what were up to in here hehehe.... Lol, without a doubt some ass will be running down the street with the PS2 in the air, screaming like a bloody savage. Now a note on your weapon, where will you get the tools to weld it? This is assuming your not preparing ahead of time. Also I did some welding work for my step dad and its not exactly sturdy stuff. It holds... to a point. I'd say at best your weld job would hold for about an hour of beating (total beating time) before your blade will snap off. Also the bat is gonna dent. Seen it happen. "FUCK YEAH I GOT A PS2 BITCHES!"
Another good thing to do when the zombies come: Go to a health club. They have tons of protein powder and stacks of meal replacement bars that you could live on in a pinch and most of the panicing masses wouldn't think of it. Drawback: might be full of buff zombies.
Way to deal with buff zombies is to point at it's crotch and laugh. Then when he looks down---hit him with the free weights!
I remember reading an article on how zombies who have taken steriods and are really big are VERY self-conscious about their genitals. That's just something I read tho, so it may not be true...
Dude... Buff zombies would be a snap! Duck beneath them and stab up! Their insane chest mussles will prevent them from being able to reach you. Like the twinkie in front of the fat kid gag
excellent posts you guys im VERY impressed. there are a couple more things i want to add, just for general knowledge sakes as was mentioned, knocking out the stairs is probably the best thing you can do. bring up every thing you need out of the basement, them demolish the stairs. then bring up everything you need out of the main floor and demolish those stairs. if your hosue is like mine, the stairs leading upstairs and right above the stairs leading to the basement, so you'll have two storeys of protection. zombies will break into your house eventually and it's gonna take a lot of bodies for them to fill up the entire basement then the entire main floor...plus theres always the attic if the zombies don't stop comming. also very important to remember is one of my personal fav idea for zombie disposal. the 3 r's. roof, rock, and rope. tie a rope to a large rock/cinderblock/something heavy that wont break, drop it on zombie heads and pull it back up. the 3 r's has unlimited ammo so long as you can still lift and since you're aboce the zombies, the head is the first place the rock is gonna hit. im also a fan of the rotating blade/chainsaw door. mount some chain saws/table saws in the entrace of a door way and watch the zombies walk right into them as they see you on the other side. there are also some things that need to be discussed as far as your own safety goes in transforming into a zombie. first off do zombies remember anything/learn? in day of the dead they manage to train an ex soldier zombie into working for them and listening to the scientist who is nice. the zombie even remembers how to salute (though shodily)...so over time, would you worry that the zombies are getting smarter as they learn about there new zombie environment? b) as a second part ot this question, do u think the zombie virus/infection would mutate and evolve? and does it only include humans, or can fluffy the dog turn into the undead? second do you die after one scratch/bite? if so, if said apparatis is amputated in time will you be saved? third, your firend is bit and he's not looking so well...does he die then ressurect or is death evaded just before and he's turned into a zombie? if he dies how long do you suppose you have to off him? fourth, are all deaths zombie creating? i.e. if you kill a badass looting biker (like from the original dawn of the dead) will they rise to exact revenge? with the whole radiation thing every death would create a zombie and you might not have to worry about being bitten but not killed by a zombie. and how do u know which of the following apply to the particular zombie infestation you are facing besides learning form experience. these are all important things to keep in mind and i would highly reccoment any zombie elite take them all into consideration without making any assumptions untill you've seen it with your own eyes.
WELL, Let me tell you, NO ONE kills Tom Savini, and seeing as he was the most awesome biker there, he would most certainly NOT die. Except that he did in the movie, but that's a movie, in real life, he's an amazing biker/special effects wizard/actor/director, so he wins. In any situation, he wins. Actually, Tom Savini is my new zombie weapon. I'm kinda out of it right now, so I'm afriad I can't be of much help about the zombie questions, but tonight, I'm gonna rent Day of the dead hopefully. Then we'll see who's the zombie expert on this forum....
I gotta say... REALLY hate the idea the zombism is a disease. I'll stick to the evil spawn of hell thank you. Techniclly if were talking about a chemical reaction then its not techniclly a zombie but a mutant. Either way its bad news. NOW! I'm not quite sure where the zombie contact infection started but I am disgusted with it. Make the plauge easier to spread and not in a scary way, but a 'damn thats a bitch' way. But lets say for arguments sake that this is the case. A)Lets not assume that zombies will learn becasue of one movie... There have been mistakes... Look at 28DL... Here we all thought it would be zombies but noooooooo. B) If its contagious instead of supernatural... sure... I dont know what undeath could evolve into... C)Doubtful... Again it goes back to the T-Virus thing... I think its a combo rip of the werewolf and vamps... D)If death is evaded then hes not a zombie. Zombies are the UNDEAD. E)Dead poeple who were killed by zombies rise again. Or dead exposed to Zombie Spiritus, via ashes, blood, etc etc. Pretty much if its fresh dead it will atract zombies who will cause it to rise again. I've always thought that living humans can fight off the "disease" because they have active White blood cells where as the dead do not, thus making them suseptable. Again we have nothing to go off of as Zombies havent struck (Yet.) We can only guess. Speed for example. We assume zombies are slow because decomposition has set in and also a large portion of the brain matter is gone, whats used to control locomotion, thus we assume they are more like an automated machine. Thought process is basiclly to uphold the primary goal, consume flesh. Again without brain matter thinking is difficult indeed. Fresh Zombies run the risk of being able to move but if we are to assume that zombies eat brains then locomotion is hindered again.