Feeling safe

No, but it can be caused to end.

Whether we split hairs to have the fact apart from what it means to us is beside the point. It's like saying you weren't upset for the fact of someones being tortured, but only that you had to know it for fact.

Yes it is a matter of interpretation, but that doesn't make it un-real. Are you saying there are no grim realities?

No? Real life exercises in hair-splitting tend to raise a few. Take a horrible hypothetical. Your loved ones lives ransomed for your own. Are you compelled/committed to action or is it all in your head?

How, if it doesn't materialize in time?

Pure religiosity. Has everyone died? Do you think everyone must die? Should I be thanking my lucky stars I'm not everyone?!

I will never be resigned to a 'guarantee' of security. Count me among the adventurous.

 

Now that this post made me think about it, no, not really. It's so crazy to think about how a person could die 'just like that' at any moment. Driving scares me a lot..I don't trust all of the crazy drivers. Earthquakes terrify me. The thought of someone taking another persons life/harming someone frightens and disgusts me. The human body also worries me because sometimes they malfunction...but I guess I try to not think too much about these things.

 

Every time I get behind the wheel I take my life in my hands.

 

Someone at my work just died from a head on crash at 60mph. I didn't know the person, but when i got in my car to drive home from work it made me think twice before i hit the gas.

 

What ends?

Haven't cut my hair in a long while. It is not beside the point when the point is that our degree of anxiety is attributable to our interpretation of fact, how the fact may or may not relate to our narrative of life.

As hard as it is to fathom due to our habits and attachments, all exchanges of energy are equal. We give the world all the meaning it has for us.

We are all free entities and none can substitute for another. I cannot move the diaphragm of another, nor they of me. A horrible hypothetical we can discuss with impunity, I would need to be shown the horror of my perceptions to answer what I might do in that situation.

A hope is an expectation not yet fulfilled and a dream must be acted on to become reality that can be shared.

You think I am purely pious?
All bodies are subject to dissolution.

In a plane where we are introduced to and learn to use our creative impulses, transience insures that we may make a mistake without indelible and dubious consequences. We may choose again.

The first obstacle that peace must pass, is the desire to be rid of it.

 

Things. Fear for instance.

But that isn't the point. The point is the upset itself. You say we are only ever upset for a facts interpretation and not the fact itself. Using the example I gave, how is that so? What is it you think distinguishes the fact from its interpretation?

Is that a yes or a no? Reality is not grim. And it is true we give the world all the meaning it has for us... but all exchanges of energy equal?! To what? A man is not a mouse.

Fair enough, you would need to experience to know what you'd do, but nevertheless, you would do something, wouldn't you? Regardless of our unwillingness to entertain it, people can actually kill eachother without asking for their consent. You have said before that "Life cannot be harmed." While I value your attitude, the truth of it is that it only needn't be harmed.

Sure, but that doesn't answer my question.

Religiose. And in what you said of the common acceptance that everyone dies, purely so.

You know all bodies? And this supposed subjection... Why?
Forget the second question - you go on to say:

We have to die to live again? Or have I read you wrong? Whatever you mean, transience is not necessarily dissolution.

I wasn't aware peace has to pass any obstacles being what it is. I cannot identify peace beyond harmony. If you feel you can, please don't go out of your way to prove it to me! lol Religious peace sounds like the grave to me, which doesn't sound like much at all.

 

Fear gives you a warning signal. It does not indicate any distinct direction. That is what YOU make of that warning signal, how you react to it.

You're shooting the messenger.

 

I bring no fire arm to bare in this conversation.

Circumspect caution eliminates any need for fear, that is knowledge of your environment keeps you safe.

Perhaps you didn't notice that I said we have a startle reflex that is adequate to deal with existential threat.

Yes fear does indicate a direction, it is don't go there or you must defend yourself from that. It is a false flag extension of fight or flight reflex induced by the abstract mechanics of the mind. Because it is not a response to a genuine threat it is not resolved through the addition of adrenalin. No longer representing biological adaptation to environmental stimulus, it becomes neurosis. This neurotic agitation is the cause of the vast majority of mans inhumanity to man.

To be alert to potential mishap is not the same as fear. Fear is imagined mishap. Fear does not give warning, it imagines danger where there is none.

Pain is the biological indicator of improper function, or legitimate warning system of our creature hood. Anxiety of the mind, fear, is a type of discomfort, pain, that warns not of exterior threat, but of interior integral disruption.

 

^ This is why I love thedope. :-D

Giving fear no quarter to which it could even become a target.

About bodies supposedly always being subject to dissolution though... I'm going to go and have some sleep and perhaps dream of an understanding that allows beings to love their bodies beyond subjection to object fact! ;-D

 

Naw. Fear has no face, as soon as you think you have discovered it's identity it has taken on a new form or jumped to some other symbol. I have yet to see the end of anything accept specific temporary isolates. Energetic exchange does not end.

Here is where you confuse perception with knowledge.

The fact is there is energy exchange. As you look at that energetic relationship You may interpret that exchange as being tortuous. The word tortuous of itself causes no anxiety, it is when you begin to assess that fact as it relates to our ideas of comfort or propriety that discomfort arises. It is the difference between what you see and what you believe should be that causes the anxiety, not the fact of energetic exchange itself.

No grim realities although we can imagine grimness.
We dream a dream in which we are figures of the dream but forget after all that we are the dreamer.

For every action there is an equal and opposite, (although equal and complementary is a more accurate description of,) reaction.

Is a mans life any more alive than the life of a mouse?

I need do nothing.

What happened to life yields only to more life?

If life is life of individual body only then you are terminal, sorry.

Don't understand the question then. My statement was our hopes and dreams may or may not materialize in time. The only time they can materialize is in time.

Religiose, excessively religious. What is my religion?

I haven't excluded any.

In the sense of metamorphosis, yes.

There are two ways to conceive evolution. There is what we have become and what we have the potential to become. What we have become, man, has a life expectancy of such and such. What we may become, superman, is dependent only on his own intention.

Everything occurs at the edges, where we exceed our boundaries.

Peace exists where the conditions of peace are met. Peace is a state without self opposing contention.

You think I am a dull boy?

 

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It is not my hands I am afraid of, it is that someone else is taking my life in their hands that does scare me.

 

It is nice to be appreciated.

 

Today, I talk with my friend in London of this.

From year 2000, I always did feel safe in my city. However, I am so surprised to know there is 7.30 murders in 10,000 people, in small population of 200,000. Also, 1/25 people every year is involved with crime. I still never have felt danger since of late 1997-1999, maybe I must take extra care.

 

Yes.

Of course shit goes wrong. There are people out to hurt me on many sides and in many ways, there are many natural disasters or accidents that could befall me, I could have a massive heart attack and die right now.

But that doesn't mean you live in fear, because that's not living. You exercise caution, from not taking out credit cards you don't need, to wearing your seatbelt, to not getting in barfights, to not getting caught with pot. You fight the good fight by spreading information.

There are things I'm "afraid" of, but I keep it in perspective:

"...nothing to fear but fear itself"

 

You mean except. I'm not saying everything ends. Things can be caused to end, including fear.

Should? Sure, torture is just a sort of tickling.

There need not be grim realities. A man is no more alive than a mouse. That doesn't make him equal to one.

Who said life is of the body only? What you don't seem to accept though is that there is no life without it.

You also said what will be done is done. When and how if not in time?

lol, you don't know?! God.

How do you know if you don't know all bodies?

How in the sense of metamorphosis?

Yet it has to pass obstacles? I think you're dull compared to me. I'm sure you're not worried though. You say you are energetic expression after all. :-D

 

thanks for breaking it all down for us..

 

I dunno sometimes

 

I do not feel safe at all. Even though I prepare for what I feel may come along, i never really feel that its enough, leaving me and my family vulnerable to anything that I may not have prepared us for. My father was my guiding light through this world as he shared his experiences and advised me on things as a parent should. However he passed this past January and it has increased the feeling that unsafe feeling 10 fold. Alas, I realize I can not prepare nor predict everything that will come my way but planning for the more likely scenarios do help to ease the anxiety.

 

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