:smilielol5: Just because someone doesn't act like they are in a girls gone wild video does not mean they are uptight.
arty:arty:arty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14hskyBXkPo"]Stevie Wonder - Uptight (Everything's Alright) Live (1965) - YouTube
Hey, I`m not the married person who won`t make out with someone of the same gender for sheer pleasure (vs. attention) between the two of us.
I wouldn't have a problem with her flirting if the chick was my girlfriend and she was open to new ideas like threesomes.
Touche. Usually the men around me know I don't want to be with women, and so do the friends I'm with know that I don't really want to be with them, and fortunately they all get my joke, and thankfully NEVER describe me as uptight. You see, they KNOW me, and you only pretend to.
Again I just don't see the thrill in it for some guys at all! I don't like fake flirty girls that need attention or flakey woman that like to tease and not follow through at all. They just annoy the hell out of me and are not hot one bit. You have got to have a pretty boring sex life if this is some big turn on for you. Totally different though when my lady is playing with another girl in front of me! I know in this case she is, because she loves to. It is going to go a lot further then them being attention whores and I am going to be getting in on the fun myself. In this case it is very real and very hot.
What does FLIRT mean? For sure I know it doesn't mean "ok, yes, lets go now, and do it". It's a superficial activity.
Well that pretty much explains your agenda pretty well. I'll translate... "two chicks flirting is hot, as long as I'm gonna get in on that action" Close? I'm actually surprised at some of the responses here. Hip forums aren't always that hip, I keep forgetting that. Seem to forget we're all different. If guys (and girls) didn't like the tease, the "fantasy" strip clubs would be non existent. Some women manipulate, men do too. Myself I don't overgeneralize everyone into one category. That's called prejudice in my book. It can just be a game, and doesn't have to be this dark thing some are portraying. Unless of course, it's all about you and your needs, fuck everyone else. Maybe I'm just not driven by selfishiness.
First of all strip clubs do nothing for me at all either. Second I would not live the lifestyle I do with my lady if I was selfish. As she or any of the others that join us would tell you I give out a whole lot more then I receive. Her pleasure is and always will be more importent to me then my own whether I am giving it to her, another woman is or another man is. I enjoy real people and doing real things and make our fantasy's real. I have no use for people that play games or are flakes in any aspect of life. Game players are a joke in my mind and I can see right through them for what they are. Not sure why not being a sucker are boasting an insecure persons self esteem makes me selfish! I am more then happy to give real people all the attention they want and do.
Ah. Excellent. Now maybe you'll see my point. Strip clubs dont do anything for me either. I have to problem seeing them for what they are. To me anyway. Some can, some can't. So, you don't like that I called you selfish, not knowing more about you and the details of who you are as a person and your relationship. Nor do any of us know the details and finer points of Calgirl and her playing. I shouldn't paint you into a corner, nor should you do that to her IMO. I highly doubt you know Calgirl well enough to warrant calling her insecure. I've been in places (im sure you have too) where people are nude. A beach or what not. That isn't an invitation to fuck. People have various motivations for going nude. Strippers have various motivations for stripping. We are all individuals with unique likes, perspectives and motivations. Judging others thru a narrow perspective is often going to lead to false assumptions. I was hoping you'd see my point by saying what I did about you. And I'm glad that it was inaccurate. :2thumbsup:
I never said anything to calgirl! What i said had nothing to do with her. I am simply saying I don't have any use for flakey attention grabbing people that pretend to be something they are not. Not just woman, but anybody like that. I was married to one for years! Go out in public and it was time for super flake to come out and pretend they are something they are not so people pay attention to them. Go back home and unhappy, insecure and miserble person is back till next time. My lady now is the same person no matter where she is or who she is with. I admire, respect, trust and cherish her, because she is a real person. Others can and should like whoever and whatever they want, but I simply have no use or time for people that are not real.
Interesting, that an outward display of playing games is such a bad thing! Most people at that moment know exactly what's going on. Hostility isn't even a part of it.
Flaky or real. You seem be so sure. Lets see....how should we label YOU for not knowing anything about me, and acting like you do. Arrogant. Thats a good one.
Apoligies if I miss read your replies... maybe I made a bad assumption too For the record, we're not so far apart. I don't have time for people like that either. I too was first married to a prime example of that. Cherea however did directly have a problem, and first thought is the same. What's the big deal and how does one think they know anything like enough about the details involved and the people to make judgements like that. Antithesis of open minded, to me.
Honestly I never once was talking to you in this thread! I don't know nothing about you and was not trying to target you. Sorry if you think I was. I was talking about the way I look at things about people. The way I live works for me and however you live is your choice. If me not wanting to be around people I don't think are real makes me arragont so be it, because another fault of mine is I stopped caring what other people that don't matter think a long time ago.
The timing and the terminology of your post made it hard to disconnect the direction the thread was at, and my involvement in it. Had your response been more oriented to the OP, it would not have looked personal. The whole female-to-female experiementation thing is against my views. People in my real life know that about me, so it's easy to see I'm doing it as a big spoof. Nonetheless, drunk guys get horny, and it's funny to see their reaction.