First DPT experiences this past weekend

^^^maybe that's the difference between insufflation and IM injection?

 

I will try that too but there can be much different experiences to be had from combining and I think it can be beneficial and produce beneficial unique experiences as long as it isn't done recklessly. I will definitely try it by itself first though, probably soon since I just got a gram.

 

help psychedelics help you

quit them shits dude, what else are you gonna let them ruin for you. now you can add "my first dpt experience" to the list of things xanax has ruined for you.

you could have died :|

no sense having "psychedelic therapy" if the next day you forget everything you've learned from it all and jump back on the soul killers. psychedelics only work if you listen to them.

 

yeah mixing benzos and psychedelics never ends good - they're completely on the opposite ends of the drug spectrum.

 

Yeah I know man. Like I said, I wasn't even planning on dosing the DPT that night. When I eat massive amounts of xanax, I tend to consume every other drug I have acces to, as well. Trust me.....I hate xanax more than anything in the world right now, and I won't be touching them for a long time, if ever, because the DPT trip wasn't all that was ruined by xanax that night

 

i think of pharmaceuticals as government control pills, sorta like the somas in brave new world lol, supplying zombies status.

dude, i have heard absolute ridiculous shit happening at higher doses, kinda almost made me not want to try DPT. i do however want to do around 100mg by itself because i have read that dose is a good one supposedly. i only think mixing drugs fucks the chemistry of the experience up if its the wrong ones.

i did a beast dose of 2ci last night however, my vision was so blurred i couldn't recognize my friends or people i met at this burning man shindig where i got blessed with some molly, although through conversation it could've been methylone. it was a great experience nonetheless, got to see and meet the san fran based acid crunk DJ an-ten-nae. we got a new term in the books though folks, research flipping lol.

 

I agree, usually, but xanax wouldn't fall into that category, in my experience. lol It turns me into a fuckin lunatic. The word "control" isn't even closely related to xanax, in my case. That's why it's so toxic for me.

With that being said, I do remember feeling extremely refreshed and even cleansed when I "woke up" that night, after the DPT/xanax shit, and I still feel a strange kind of clarity that I haven't felt in quite a few months. Of course, the clarity could be attributed to the fact that I keep realizing more and more how fuckin toxic xanax is for me. I was definitely still tripping pretty fuckin hard and I wasn't even remotely sleepy when I snapped out of it. I'm starting to think I was just hella gone, like in some sort of crazy DPT/xanax trance. I've heard strong DPT experiences can kinda fuck with the memory a little bit, so perhaps I just kinda blacked out for a while, because of the combination. I just wish I could remember where the fuck I was taken, so to speak.

 

werd, the DPT could be attributed to the cleansing, as that shit made me mad health conscious, way more so than like any other psychedelic.

 

Possibly. I meant more in an emotional sense though, as opposed to physically.

 

well both, in my opinion. feels sort of like a rebirth the next day.

 

Definitely. I can see what you mean about being more health-conscious. Other psychedelics have made me feel that way. At least, during the trip. lol During a trip, everything, including sugar and caffeine, just feels much more harmful on the body. Surprisingly, cigarettes are the opposite. lol They actually feel a lot cleaner/healthier, and even mandatory during most of my trips. The fact that they feel cleaner could be due to the fact that they're menthol and just feel amazing during trips though.

 

i just ordered 200mg for 10 dollars after reading the OP.. im excited for this one

 

Slightly related: I gave up red meat about 7 months ago. I think it was due to psychedelics. For sometimes two days after a trip, I find it difficult to eat any type of meat. I believe that's from being exposed to my true feelings on the matter.

 

Now that I think of it, I am never hungry for anything while tripping. At the most, I can have a glass of fruit juice. I assume this is our psychological addiction to food being shut off. One is much more in the moment and may listen to her or his body, not her or his brain, on the subject of hunger. This would mean we would only crave food if we truly needed it. It wouldn't be as much of a crave as it would be a weakening or empty stomach. Who knows? If this was the case, I must not need much food at all. As I said, I can never eat on psychedelic. It is only after the come down that I start to crave food.

 

Food is delicious on 5-me0 mipt. I've also ate and enjoyed on 2cb and the downswing of LSD.

I don't think its necessarily a psychological reaction as much as a physical reaction, perhaps it could be argued its one in the same or something. stimulants also suppress appetite, its difficult to eat even if you desire to do so or your body feels it needs food. I think opiates may be the same. Considering stimulants (at least some) are much more addictive than psychedelics you may miss a meal but you usually don't run into that same problem with psychs.

 

As I dig deeper, I realize more and more. I only lack the urge to eat with tryptamines. I ate an entire large vegetable pizza on a moderate dose of 2c-p. For whatever reason, I seem to look at food as unnecessary and somewhat of a dsitraction while tryptamining.

Once I return to what what the consensus calls "reality," I stuff my face with whole grain bread, cereal, orange juice, any fruit and sometimes sweets. I eat moderately healthy. After a trip, I can stuff my face with almost any food with no concern as long as it is not meat. I do not find meat disgusting, I just do not crave it for a couple of days. It almost seems like I need to put whatever change was happening in my brain and/or in my thought process behind me and get back to being a modern day, decadent human as soon as possible. Once I realized that I did this, I began to make an effort to stop. There is some deep, subtle, positive feeling inside that occurs when I resist the urge to binge after a trip.

 

Thats cool, probably a personal thing as I said I love food on 5-me0 mipt which is a tryptamine.

I don't eat while tripping very often though either, it often does seem unappealing or just does not interest me admist all the sensory and cognitive effects going on, also some psychedelics have strong physical aspects ( nausea, gut rot, body load, stimulation, etc) that don't make food much of a priority to me while tripping.

 

Yea, I sort of had a mental breakdown on 60 mg of 4-aco. It literally changed how I look at everything, at least for about 4 hours. I believe it was probably the purest perspective I have ever had on life. My subconscious was set free and pure in the forefront of my mind. While most of those views have faded two weeks after the trip, there is still some remenance left and I feel like my priorities are amazingly organized and I put off almost nothing. There was no "I" in the sense that the "I" that I portray myself as and the role I play in society (including all values, morals, views, etc) was pushed to the side. The uninfluenced "me" came to the forefront and I became totally conscious of my subconscious. It was almost torture.

This was much different than the "self-dissolution" I experienced on a quarter of mushrooms (diks). The 4-aco magnified my "true self." I pictured myself and saw myself in my mind. the mushroom experience was much more indefinable. There was no "I" that I portray myself as to others and there was no subconscious/true "me." It was a void. The 4-aco experience was the epitome of introspection. The psilocin experience was the epitome of existential.

I've yet to try 5-meo-mipt. I believe it is scheduled and I have yet to get over that fear.


I don't know why I got so off-topic... sorry.

 

5 me0 mipt is not scheduled in the US. At the doses I took it at its closer to an experience like ecstasy. Very cool, euphoric and interesting to me as you can tell i like ecstasy by my sig but also for the fact pretty much every other trypt I've done (mushrooms, 4-aco dmt, dpt, dmt, 5-me0 dmt) have all been more serious visual entheogenic experiences.

Ive read it can get more psychedelic at higher doses though.


I really want to try a high dose of 4-aco dmt sometime, I've only taken it twice (20 mgs rectal, 30 Mgs oral) definitely a solid psychedelic although I don't think I've reached some of the profound levels of awareness I've heard from others.

I think I've reached similar states of consciousness as you describe coolrunnings with dpt. I get a sense of dissolution of self and revealing of subconscious but I didnt get the impression it was torture, it was more of an insight into my deep desires, fears, needs, wants that I took an outside observer perspective to. It was constantly flowing and constant but I didnt get the sense of mental anguish like I occasionally do with shrooms or even a small portion of one of my 4-aco trips.

 

The thought of me unnaturally living life for the created and learned system that is society stabbed through me in so many ways. The realization that I haven't been living life truly for myself and have failed to grow as a person in numerous aspects was terrorizing me.

What choice do we have, though? I have been forced to learn how to live for the future for my entire young life. Looking for future security and the thought of running out of secutiry/pleasure is unnatural and causes anxiety. Society has learned to develop hobbies and interests to distract themselves from the anxiety.

It would take a major rewiring to all of the sudden live life in the moment and by my truest, deepest, most pure desires. It would impossible. If it was possible, once I got to that point society would shun me, punish me for failure to pay back any loans that I owe and try to medicate me.