Five Reasons Kerry Should Be Elected Instead Of Bush

Discussion in 'Politics' started by FreeSpiritedMelody, Jul 1, 2004.

  1. BlackVelvet

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    LOL Eugene, you crack me up!
     
  2. dhs

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    I don't necesarily think Kerry is the answer, but I do feel anyone but bush is, hence my decision to vote for Kerry.

    5 Reasons:


    1. The Patriot Act - the US was founded on individual freedom, not freedom of the government to be able to spy on every aspect of your life.

    2. Pre-emptive War without UN approval - their reasons to go to war in Iraq were completely unjustified - this continues to be proven to be true more and more everyday.

    3. Greatest percentage of job losses nationwide since the Great Depression - and don't feed me BS about the recent job growth as they have been for the most part low paying service sector jobs. And to those who respond with concern for this truth - he shrugs us off and calls us pessimists.

    4. There was this little thing called the Geneva Convetion that once upon a time the US thought was very important - apparently Bush doesn't by allowing Rumsfeld to stay in office despite him approving prisoner torture and abuse. Back in 2000 Bush claimed to be a candidate of compassion and values, which it is obvious he has neither of these qualities.

    5. Perhaps being the most fiscally irresponsible president our nation has ever known. Turning the largest government surplus of $$ into the greatest deficit in history. All 50 states were in a state of deficit for the first time in history. The most absurd tax program in history - sure many of us caught a break, but the few hundred dollars us average joe's received was only a smoke screen so he could give millions back to the wealthy - including himself and his administration. Mortgaging your retirement, your Social Security benefits on a war that has proven far to costly and unnecessary. I could go on and on about his fiscal miscues, these are just some of the big ones.
     
  3. Mui

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    that was beautiful
     
  4. Eugene

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    What part was I being stupid, maybe emotional, but most of my opinions are corroborated with fact. If it is truly outragerous, I.E. Bush is raping women in africa or that because he is short, it is a joke.
    I don't think you got the joke.

    Oh well, I guess hyperbole and Irony just go over the heads of the intellectually less inclined.
     
  5. BlackVelvet

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    It's ok Eugene, HE can't back up anything..all HE does is go around bashing people for not liking bush or agreeing with him about Bush, ..and I piss him off..because I said something about it..Go figure

    *EDITED*
     
  6. GrievousAngel

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    Well besides the fact that i am a "he", i never see any thoughtful commentary from you. Usually i see you sticking your head just a wee bit futher of someone who can speak better ass's.
     
  7. BlackVelvet

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    well I apologize for offending you..i didn't know since you didn't state it..I just think it a bit rude for you to tell people to kill themselves because they don't believe what *YOU* believe..instead of stating why they should do so.
     
  8. GrievousAngel

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    He made a few jokes i thought were dumb. Jesus will you stop bitching about that get your head out of eugene's ass.
     
  9. Eugene

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    I still want to know where I was being stupid, I am really really senstitive about that word.
     
  10. dhs

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    You know, not to be a cop, but I personally find this thread to be very important, it concerns all of our futures for the next four years. So, perhaps instead of flaming one another, why not get back to the 5 reasons:)
     
  11. BlackVelvet

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    My head isn't in Eugene's ass..and since you apparently don't like me much or what I say..why do you even care? *bitches* THERE..also, I usually don't bitch at all..I'm usually a really nice person..Just some comments are rather rude and I think you need to state why you feel the way you do without flaming..So, that is my complaint. If you knew me...you would know, I don't usually bitch or complain, but you don't know me and you and a few others, are the only ones that I have complained to and have given my advice to about stating instead of flaming..and maybe if you weren't so rude on here, you may get people to listen to you more..! With that said ~Peace~ [​IMG]
     
  12. BlackVelvet

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    you are right dhs! Sorry ya'll
     
  13. Lodui

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    Heh, when i went to London all the girls thought my Texas accent was hella sexy. ;)

    Maxpowers right, Europe has resented the US ever since we emerged as a world power... America is kinda like the monopoly guy who throws money at all his problems, and its all worked out pretty well.

    I don't think Kerry would do anything radically different from Bush. All us simpe Americans can do is pick the guy who looks better in the flight suit.

    Kerry needs to get better at his PR. I dunno if hes really a boring prick, or the republicans just made him look that way, I want Kerry to win, but i dunno if i can live with a president who I'd have beaten up in high school.
     
  14. Gabino

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    [1] He does what he says, and says what he does.

    [2] Under his direction Afghanastan has been freed from the barbaristic Taliban.

    [3] Under his leadership 25,000,000 Iraqiis have gained liberty and democratic government.

    [4] The alternative is frightening:
    > Terrorism growing instead of being beaten back,
    > Taxes raised, instead of lowered,
    > People like Edward Kennedy and Barney Franks in the Cabinet, instead of people like Condaleeza Rice and Colin Powell.

    [5] He's earned the right to govern for 4 more years.
     
  15. LickHERish

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    So did Hitler, so did Stalin, i guess that makes them worthy leaders eh?

    Doing the wrong thing blindly and out of ideological intransigence is no recommendation for ANY politican, let alone the most powerful office on the planet. Clearly that simple fact escapes you.

    Actually the Taliban remain very much a cohesive and increasingly resurgent force along with the other lawless warlords who control the vast majority of Afghanistan. Only tiny Kabul stands as an island for Bush's delusional rhetorical boasts about monumental change to Afghani society. Time to take the blinders off and see reality.

    Certainly the opium trade is beholden to Bush for clearing the way for its return to pre-Taliban levels.

    25,000,000 Iraqis have seen their once infrastructurally superior nation (the jewl of the middle east) reduced to rubble, destitution, deprivation, malnutrition and increased birth defects thanks to our DU clusterbombs.

    25,000,000 Iraqis have watched as a exiles who have not set foot in Iraq since their families fled long prior to the rise of Saddam (at the time of the overthrow of Faisal II in the 1950's, when we put the Baathists into power in the first place) and have lived in comfort plotting their own grasping bid for power at the appropriate time whilst the indigenous Iraqis suffered under one brutality after another (and all either supported or later perpetrated directly by the West). This IIG is not remotely democratically legitimate as it was handpicked by the Bush admin and installed to authority behind closed doors with no Iraqi public will considered.

    1. Terrorism which was not resident in the country prior to our utter destabilisation of a purely secular socialist society where women had education and a role in the societal structure and alcohol was freely and openly consumed (unlike most surrounding Arab states).

    2. How this has anything to do with Iraq is beyond me, but for the record, the utter fiscal mismanagement and tax break for the wealthiest 10% has left even the nation's proprietary social security reserves plundered to fuel an expansive military aparatus. Daily costs have risen on nearly every middle income household since state disbursements have been cut leaving most states also well into the red fiscally (though not being a home owning family man, you do not yet appreciate the range of costs that have risen dramatically, making this tax cut no break at all). Whichever party gets in, taxes will be rising again else our economic future is one long downward spiral.

    3. Neither of those men would be getting cabinet positions. you truly have no clue about political expedience, that much is clear.

    He's earned a full scale investigation into repeated lies and shady crony corporate dealings with US tax payer money to the further enrichment of his friends and hangers-on, but he certainly hasn't EARNED another 4 years.
     
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    The patriot act is a good thing. You people that are against it obviously do not understand it and believe everything the liberal media misinforms you about. Try understanding it for yourself. UN approveal or the war? Why the fuck should we get their approval? They are not American, they do not support American values and America does not need them. Job loss and being fiscally irresponsible? Things take time to come into effect. Clinton did shit for our country. I don't see why he didnt take that budget surplus and use it to pay off more forign debt, that just strikes me as idiotic. Your reasons are stupid.
     
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    How do you then "obviously" understand it? I see it as unnecessarily invasive on our civil liberties. And if I believed everything the "liberal" media "misinformed" me about, I'd probably have been a staunch supporter of the war and the Patriot Act until perhaps some months back, or at most maybe a year or so back. The mainstream media took a while to really start questioning those issues.

    :rolleyes: My aren't we self-centered. So we shouldn't regard anyone's opinion if they're not American... that's a winning strategy. If that's what you think, why the fuck should you expect other countries to like us or help us? And I'm sorry but you're really naive if you believe America can go it alone in this misguided war and have any substantial success that's worth the trouble.

    True 'nuff... that big debt we're facing will come to bite us in the ass in time.
     
  18. GrievousAngel

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    Getting rid the debt is gonna be a task for anyone. But I presonally think raising taxes isn't the answer.
     
  19. Gabino

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    The above is the thinking of Kerry supporters.

    Iraq was the jewel of the Middle East.

    And the US targeted civilians in the attack.

    Both are laughable, but such is the thinking of the John Kerry supporters.
     
  20. LickHERish

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    Just as your further dismissive rant is indicative of the evasive "head in the sand" non-thinking of the Bush-bots.

    In the end, regardless of the objective facts of the matter, tis obviously easier to simply put on the ideological blinders and deny whatever you cannot address intelligently and rationally.

    Bravo!
     

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