flashbacks

wow i wasnt expecting such good feedback, keep it comin enlightend ones

 

like really keep in coming

 

I see the residual CEV's or as they've been classified here, flashbacks, as something of high value. Lucy's parting gift you might say. Any anxiety about this gift seems due to the misconception that the lsd is directly responsible for it. Lucy doesn't bring things to you, it removes things from you, that is to say it dissolves psychological barriers built by cultural conditioning,and what ensues or what you see is something entirly native to humanity, and needn't be feared. It is all part of our underlying (and normally latent) collective consciousness once known by all primitive people but since hidden away due to our evolved state of ego existence. It's not mystical it's our subconscious.

It seems to me that I get flashbacks from any significant or awesome life-event. Certain smells will flip me back to the peculiar way I felt after my first acid trip, but smells will also send me back to times I spent in Europe that are associated with the smell, or to the east coast, etc. For many of us the acid experience can be the most profound or significant thing of a lifetime, not b/c we need a drug to be exhilarated, but because the unknown self within, that lsd brings out, is very profound and significant. We just don't know it as well in our artificial world and can know it again through artifical or natural media.

 

I know what you mean about the weed-induced flashbacks. One thing I would advise is not smoking a whole lot of weed at once. It really only happened to me when I would take a huge bong hit, and what would usually happen is my vision would become more distorted than usual (weed always distorts my vision somewhat) and then I would begin to feel dissociated and then the panic would set in. I would personally just stop tripping for a while and smoke less frequently and less per session especially.

Oh, and as for people getting "stuck in a trip," I can't imagine there are many people who are actually "tripping" for the rest of their lives, but there are people who are so traumatized by LSD that they never get back to normal, sometimes so bad that they end up in mental hospitals. So many people on this forum take a very unrealistic "LSD is harmless" approach and it just isn't true. One of my friend's cousins took LSD unknowingly and is still in a mental hospital years later. Of course he took it unknowingly, but this stuff DOES happen.

 

thanks guys alot of it is prolly just my own head getting to me, like ill just think about how lsd has changed me and then ill start to make up these voices in my head because i have heard of people goin crazy from it b4 when i really know that the voices are just me trippin myself out, well at least i hope lol its really strange

 

will the flashbacks go away, i really need to know that my brain is going to recooperate from this

 

they will go away eventually. i once had flashbacks for an extended period. i'll tell you what worked for me:

at first i regarded the flashbacks as a gift, i would start tripping when i was really high. occasionally after this happened a few times it started happening while i was sober, which i was entirely fine with. then after i told a few people that i had had flashbacks a few of my less informed?, (worried) friends started talking to me about how this was not a good thing and that i did not want to be stuck with flashbacks for the rest of my life. it freaked me out for a while and i became worried about the flashbacks. i then asked my friends to stop talking to me about the flashbacks and i just spent less time around the ones that didn't. i then eventually managed to return to a point of embracing the flashbacks. after getting really high and tripping a certain amount of times i was able to pinpoint the entity that was causing my flashbacks. it's like a little thing in the back of your conciousness/mind that emits energy which makes you trip. this is also the same thing that makes you trip when you dose. eventually after being concious of this entity for a while i learned how to control it. i could make myself trip at any given time, for any amount of time. i could also terminate these experiences with ease. i was fine with this since at this point my flashbacks were entirely under control. but after so long it became less and less controllable. i came to the conclusion that this entity's power was infinate and that i could not control it in my mere human vessel. there were apparent to me two options: terminate my control of the entity permenantly and entirely, or let it overtake me. well obviously i terminated it. this wasn't hard to do since i had somehow gained knowledge of how to turn it on and off previously. this time it was just permenant. i can't make myself trip anymore, and i havn't had a flashback since. i also stopped tripping/smoking and went totally sober for a period of about 3 months after this. ive dosed several times since.

i know that you probably won't be able to do what i did, but i guess it might help you. one piece of advice that i will give you though is that: "it is not the spoon that bends, only yourself"

so i would:

1) embrace the flashbacks

2) gain control over them

3) terminate them

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and neodude what would you say is the right mindset for salvia? it seems to be completely different from that of other psychadelics. salvia is incredibly strong.

oh, and the light at the end of the tunnel is you.

 

I can't speak for anyone else, because I know other people have visuals on salvia, but what makes salvia so remarkable and profound for me, is the fact that I experience NO sensory alterations when I smoke it.

While LSD and shrooms are extremely beneficial to learning how our own mind works, and perhaps even shedding light on our true nature, I feel that many people get lost in the pretty colors and undulating waves of reality, and forget that what they are seeing is not "it". There is nothing that you can perceive that is the "it".

With salvia, this is not a problem. Savlia is almost like forced enlightenment, truly.

So, IMO, the mind that is ready for an authentic Salvia experience is the mind that is humble, the mind that is willing to surrender any sense of "control", and a mind that willingly wishes to seek out truth. Although these traits may be required in the mind, raised above this facade of mind interpreted sensory input, you will once and for all know how truly insignificant and temporal the mind really is. You really have to put all your preconceived expectations aside when smoking this. When one can do all this, well, prepare to meet yourself.

 

ah, well for me smoking salvia is like watching reality split up and seeing all the possible outcomes for every given second and going outside of time and experiencing what it is like outside the boundaries of time and reality.

it's extremely enlightening, but just a little... INTENSE!!

thanks for the advice. i think maybe what i need to do is learn how to completely surrender(something i rarely do) to the drug and to time.

 

dude i have tripped at least 10 times a year or more for the past 5 years and i'm perfectly fine its all in your head man

you're just perceiving more than you used to. your brain needs time to adjust. weed is classified as a psychedelic, intoxicant, stimulant, and depressant, so no wonder.

 

I am very prone to hypnagogic hallucinations, where you basically start dreaming before your fully asleep. In this way, I hear many voices, but it's a dream that I'm a little more aware of. Everyone hears voices in dreams, everyone has a function of the brain that has the ability to generate voices and this function is operating in everybody. Just most people have that brain function clearly distinct and separated from there waking consciousness. They push all notions of auditory and visual hallucinations over to the side of their awareness that is dreaming, keeping it distinctly separated from being awake. Now the truth is, these two things can mix, very easily. Like I said, I'll start in on dreaming of things before I'm even fully asleep, just with the intention of sleep, that hallucinatory function of my brain will go into play.

This also means that, even in daytime sitting up, if I zone out enough, into a dreamy state, I will start to dream up voices and imagery just the same.

Now I remember back after some of the first times I really gave my being quite the psychedelic shake up that, I was more prone to getting these two sides of being, awake and dreaming mixed up. The thing that allowed me to get them properly separated again and in control is recognizing that the hallucinatory function of your brain is not any form of damage. Nothing is wrong. Your brain has always been able to generate voices and imagery, and it always has, it's just that prior to LSD, you had them more distinctly separated to the dreaming\sleeping side of your experience. So the fact that voices or hallucinations arrive is no indication of something being damaged, but simply indication that you must focus a bit more to sanction your brain functions into their desired positions during the cycle of your daily life. Like I said before, the first thing to recognize is it's not damage, it's normal for the brain to do this, then secondly, you must recognize that this function of your brain is not going to shut down again, it was never shut down, your simply going to relocate it to where it should be in your daily cycle. Which is sleeping, deep relaxation. Anytime where you don't need full focus and concentration upon collective physical reality.

Now thats the intention, how to put it into play theres many different ways. But for me, at some point before I would get tired, I would put myself into a pitch black room for an hour everyday and then meditate in that room, it would bring back visuals and voices for me. In a calm centered manner, so that I could safely experience and interact with my brain in that way without worry. I would sanction off a portion of my daily experience with the intention, "for this hour I am going to remain calm and allow these innate functions of my brain to fully manifest so I can become comfortable with them". This would allow my brain to sort of vent it's unconscious inclination to produce these things. It would get all of these precarious manifestions and brain interactions out of the way for the day. You know instead of suppressing them and having them slowly trickle in over hours and hours, just sit in a sanctioned area for it to come and do it's thing, allow it to be, allow it to pass. Over time of doing this, my brain gradually learned to only open up those functions of my brain when I was calm, centered and allowing them to open and come into play, during meditation. Which even further on after that, I no longer even needed to meditate daily to allow these unconscious inclinations to vent, and come to pass, my brain is set up now quite firmly to hold all of that for the sleeping, dreaming cycle of my life.

Now with that, in meditation, when comfortable, if there is a distinct feeling of presence and voice. You may want to try posing a question. It might be that your brain wishes to interact with itself this way for a reason. I have personally found much benefit to figuring things out about myself if when under deep meditation I operate my internal thought process not as my voice, but multiple interacting entities. It opens the door for thought processes, and deducing understanding that you could not have come to in the prior way of operating your brain as simply your voice string English words through your head. And to tell the truth, once I did that for long enough, my brain stopped wanting to operate in that way. In meditation now, I think and interact with myself purely in geometry and non-descript tones. But I got there because of the things I figured out when operating my brain as entities interacting with one another.


and they aren't flashbacks, they are flashforwards. Things yet to pass. Your intuition manifesting an experience to guide your concious direction. Flashforwards can be sanctioned to only your meditative and dreaming state just the same as anything else if you wish it to be.

And lastly I just wanna say, theres no instruction manual for this, following any set of principles won't automatically produce anything. This is not like school, or a test, or anything of that nature where you can follow a guideline and the end result is a guaranteed gift from someone else. This is instead directly willing yourself to be into the position you want. The only endpoint, the only gift to be granted is the mental state that you manage to develop the ability to consciously hold yourself in. And your ability to hold such a state coincides pretty much directly with the moment you can define for yourself what that state actually is.