Forced Slavery By The Anti-Abortion Republicans

Maybe if you would write your posts in the same vein you would have gotten the appreciation for bringing it across in such a clear way (just a thought. not saying you have to, if your older approach feels more stress relieving carry on)

 

For all of you against medical abortions I would have to say that you are ignorant and have never been in the position of having to take care of a child with severe disabilities. For the past few years I have been trying to start a family. In 2014 I gave birth to son with a rare desease called myotubular myopathy. My genetic carry over rate is 95% to any children I have. I have already had to bury two of my three children because I didn't know I carried the disease in my genes. The first night he died 24 times. We spent 7 months in a hospital with him. It took them 6 months to figure out what he had. He has a vent, a trach, and a gastronomy tube. He doesn't have a life expectancy according to the doctors he could die at anytime. And if he dies do you know who gets put on the chopping block. Me I do. The doctors cover themselves. So I could get neglect charges or murder charges is he lets say dies of asphyxiation due to drowning in his own secretions while I sleep. Let's say his trach fall out or he pulls it out in the middle of the night and he dies guess who gets blamed. Yeah that's right I do. Btw having a child like this is a tether it chains you to the child permently. I can't go anywhere with out someone medically trained here. In case you didn't know with a child like mine no one wants to watch because he could croak at anytime. They are scared of the charges against them and me if something were to go wrong. He can't go outside to much because of germs because of him being medically fragile. He is really hard to take places any way. When I go anywhere with him I have to take a vent, 50 lb 12 v battery, a suction machine, a apnea moniter, a polsach monitor, an emergency bag, a way to transport him and I have to have a driver because I always have to sit with him. If something happens while we're out Emts do not know how to change Trachs so I'm on my own there. Doctors are either afraid to treat him or see him as an experiment. Most doctors he has are incompetent as shit and btw his hospital is Riley. Not counting Riley loves to throw ppl under the bus for shit you can't control. If you think all that is crazy do you want to know the choice you get for disabled children in the hospital after you have them A. You can be medically trained to take care of the child for the rest of its life. B. You can put them in a nursing home so you won't have to deal with them and let them die for one reason or another C. You can put them up for adoption where they will never get chosen and end up in a nursing home and die or D. You can kill them your self through asphyxiation or starvation. What a lovely choice right! The other reason I think banning abortion is wrong for all of you so called free people. It's our fucking body for all the men out there your little men are just fertilizer. It's not you left holding the diaper bag when you decide to chase the next free pussy willing to put out. Not counting home abortions are not safe. They are very unsanitary and thousands of women died before they were legalized to septic infection and blood poisoning. But if that's the only choice they have to be free of the parasite taking over their body that's what they will do. Do you know whose fault it will be? All of those people who didn't give a shit about that women's person freedom and choice.

 

I'm very sorry to hear about your child and your previous losses. That's an unimaginable lot to be responsible for.

 

Thanks the worst part is they refuse to tie my tubes I tried after my second child, but apparently it's the doctors choice.

 

I guess old fart is lost in the sauce again.

I feel a lose when experience is not allowed to happen. Even a disabled life can have pleasures. I do believe that back in the day when abortions were very difficult or impossible to find, that some young woman would kill themselves when they were expecting. The girl I knew that had several abortions was on the other end. She had talked about killing herself due to so many abortions.

It's not easy to legislate laws that have enough freedom for leeway. Abortions can suck or they can be a blessing. I can't really respect any opinion that wants everything written in stone. Laws don't really give freedom, they always take something away from someone. I never had a free day where I was following a schedule that was written in stone. Freedom is here and it's now and it cannot be written down to be followed. Not true freedom.

 

You speak of freedom. What is freedom? In your opinion we are free, but I have seen otherwise. No freedom cannot be written and set into stone. Honestly no human knows what true freedom is. I'm not saying abortion should be set in stone or made a law I don't see why we need a law to take care of a problem that is occurring within our own body. Yes I guess a disabled life could be somewhat pleasureable depending on the disease. Sure a mental issue I could see when it comes to retardation. Ignorance is bliss. But what about the cognitive patients that have to live differently and understand that they will be nothing more than what they are. What do you tell people like that? You don't understand it doesn't matter where I take my kid he's stared at, talked about, and avoided like a disease. You don't think he'll eventually notice and realize no matter how I try to protect him bully's are everywhere. They don't care if it's something your born with or can't help. What happened when he becomes a teenager and gets treated so badly he decides he wants to die and takes his trach out. Or what happens when kids decide to torture and beat because he can't defend himself. What do you want me to tell him? Turn the other cheek! Yeah right! So sir you speak of things you have never experienced, or what people I that position go through so don't speak out of ignorance. It's bothersome.

 

He's not disagreeing with you. Lighten up. He has a right to post in this thread.

 

I can't even read all of that.

I'm getting sick of the over reacting assumptive butt-hurt that exists online. I say words, words have very little meaning and people fill in a lot of empty space.

I don't think we are free, evolutionary wise or legally.

I just know that somewhere somehow the karma balance has a side to tip too. Very rarely is it balanced and when it is nobody is very high up!

 

Sorry bout that I am very defensive about disabled ppl.

 

I am disabled, my doctor thinks I am schizoaffective. I've been in jail a handful of times and hospitals a handful of times. I live on disability because frankly I make more than jobs pay that will actually hire me and I get my medical mostly paid for. Most of what I get for money is a death benefit. I don't live in a wheel chair or am blind so people assume I am not disabled. But I don't really know how to integrate my ego to my experiences. Frankly I would much rather transcend my ego but that is very difficult apparently.

I don't really know how to feel about abortions or most things. Most of the time it's someone else that is involved and I'd rather not get involved. Once I believe it may of been mine and it was hurtful. Then again I know I don't have the money to raise a family and it's hard to raise a family without money. I'd rather just avoid sex anymore, it's just too damn powerful to play around with a lot like most drugs.

No need for anyone to over react (butt hurt) and assume things.

 

Sorry again I wasn't nessicarily speaking to you. I just get frustrated with people speak with out wisdom. Your post was closest I guess but I was talking about in general. It is hard to incorporate a long thread into a whole conversion.

 

I understand.

 

So why not kill him now? It's a whole lot safer than an abortion. What is the dividing line between women's choice and murder and why is that the dividing line?

 

Because in our country putting people out of their misery is "unethical" unless preformed by a sanctioned member of society aka Doctor, military official, cop ect....

 

Birth is the beginning of your life, as it has been for centuries, across all cultures.

 

Abortion's not gonna be banned. It would just be left up to the states. Planned Parenthood is a giant fighting the giant. They have volunteers who drive women to cities where they can get abortions.

 

But according to science life begins at conception. And that doesn't really explain why is what you said the starting point.

 

life doesn't "start" at conception, the sperm and egg cells were already alive.
Where are you drawing the dividing line?

 

Neither sperm nor the egg can produce a human by themselves.

 

but that wasn't what you stated, you stated that life begins at conception, and that isn't correct.

maybe you need to rearrange your criteria and put science first and scripture last.