Forever 27

Discussion in 'Music' started by Lainey, Aug 23, 2005.

  1. Lainey

    Lainey Member

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    i belive thats all a mattter of opinion
     
  2. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    yet it is an opinion that can be factually proven, assuming you accept the standards for what is good music...
     
  3. Lainey

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    no. that cant be done. what makes good music is different for everybody
     
  4. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    okay, lets shed the philosophical facade and establish some common facts. music is a human creation, and so is subject to human reasoning. there are certain things that make music desirable to listen to, and certain techniques that are only in existance for this purpose. thats why, lets say, thelonius monk is more desirable to listen to than a jack hammer... the musical elements, the rhythms and melodic fluctuations require skill to produce, thus rendering someone like jerry garcia a more capable musician than kurt cobain... ya dig?
     
  5. Lainey

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    not quite diggin it..
     
  6. TheLittleOne

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    they all did stupid shit while they were 26...perhaps
     
  7. tommyboy487

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    I dig it.

    Lets say this. It is a known fact that elton john is more talented than fred penner, jUst as it is a fact that garcia was more talented than mr kurt. IT has nothing to do with opinion in any way. I think what soulrebel was getting at is that there are millions of artists out there... and only a couple of them died at 27... it could have been more than a coincidence if it was all the most talented amazing artists that died at 27 rather than just a handfull of drugusers. ( for this reason I believe it is more than a coincidence... and thats where opinion comes in).
     
  8. Lainey

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    i dont think its fair to say anybody has more talent than anyone, regardless
     
  9. tommyboy487

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    of course it is. Talent is something that you work hard for. If someone with less talen than someone else cant be accepting of this fact they need to be woken up and slapped.
     
  10. Lainey

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    but music has such a wide range of talent involved, instrument techinques, vocals, lyrics, ect. .. really who's to say.
     
  11. tommyboy487

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    so then what makes a music legend... like zeppelin or hendrix.
     
  12. Lainey

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    id say it was measured by the power over the people that they created
     
  13. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    i need not make anymore posts... because this fellow gets what i am trying to say, ill let him post
     
  14. Lainey

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    i'm a stubborn mule, ull never get your point across to me :)
     
  15. alice_d_millionaire

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    but they didnt have any power over people... they merely provide(ed) an outlet for people who otherwise didnt have one...
     
  16. Lainey

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    then measured on how far they reached people
     
  17. alice_d_millionaire

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    but that has a lot to do with charisma and less to do with talent...
     
  18. Lainey

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    i think being able to have good charisma is part of talent
     
  19. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    not necessarily... but if you want to think that, then more power to you.
     
  20. timeoutofmind

    timeoutofmind So Many Roads...

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    "age; it means less"
    -Bob Dylan-
     

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