Forget a Recession! A GREAT DEPRESSION is coming!

I meant to say out of chaos comes order in my previous post... not out of order comes chaos.

I fixed it.

 

then my friend i will die defending it an they would have some nasty surprises waiting for them ...

ill be god damned if id go out any other way in that situation....

 

The most important advice I could offer to someone is to get out of the city. Move to the country if you can. The infrastructure to enslave mass amounts of people is in the cities.

If people have the resources to get out of the country altogether, I would even more highly recommend that. There is no doubt things are going to be bad just about everywhere, as this will be a GLOBAL collapse, but things will be worse here in the states.

I would move to an island in the South Pacific if I could. Somewhere in northern Canada might also be ideal, but I would get as far from the US as possible. I would stay away from Europe as well, because the same police state has been set up there for the same reasons.

 

Moving to any place on in North America sounds scary to me, since the joining of Canada and Mexico with U.S. means it's all the same turf. That's not to say I don't totally understand what you mean, and if I can't leave the country, then hell yeah, as far north as possible.

Basically, I want to find any place outside of U.S. that has absolutely nothing to do with the U.S. on any level and go live there on a beach or in the mountains.

Same here buddy. I have no illusions as to the balance of power if they decide to come after me alone, but I sure as hell will take some of them with me before I go down...and quite possibly after as well...

 

IMO that is the core cause of this economic catastrophe we are facing now.

people living beyond there means for far to long.

not that our governments idiotic solutions for the problem such as printing more money has helped matters any..

as you pointed out, the real spiral is soon to take place when folks begin cashing in what little they have left in there 401k's.

 

Yeah, but I am referring to the time between now and 2010, which is slated as the year for the merger of the Americas. It's not going to be possible for everyone to leave the US, let alone the North American continent. So what I am saying is that there are places you can go in the US and Canada that will be better off than some other (more populated) places. However, to the people who cannot leave the country altogether, that would be their best bet. If a person is unable to leave the continent, their best bet would be to move as far north as possible. They're already making it difficult for people with even minor criminal offenses to even enter Canada.

 

Did you even read the quote I provided from FDR's Son-n-Law?

Yes, the collapse of 1929 was planned, as the coming collapse is also planned. That's why I saw this coming years ago -- before the warning signs really stated to show themselves like they are now -- while everyone else was saying I was nuts. I suppose you think the plan for a North American Union and standardized currency is also a conspiracy theory? Well, it ties into the current economic state because they must destroy the dollar to bring in their proposed Amero.

Yes, the Elite have long been on the road to control, but to bring in the completed new system, they must first destroy the old one and create the pretext for a completely militarized society. Again, out of CHAOS come ORDER -- Ordo ab Chao.

It doesn't matter to the bankers if their banks are collapsing. Money means nothing to them as they print the money out of nothing. It's simply worthless paper. They still own all the real wealth in gold and resources. The average person's idea about money is an illusion. What we are witnessing is an organized effort to bring in a totalitarian form of government. These people still have all the power to control the biggest governments of the world and their armies, which will soon be used against its citizenry.

 

Well, I suppose if you think merging with a third world country is a good thing, and that throwing our Constitution and national sovereignty out the window are good things, you would support such a merger. If you favor more control in the hands of fewer people, I suppose it might be a good thing. If so, then I won't argue with you. But as far as it affecting Americans and making a difference, it will make a big difference because we are talking about the bringing down of this country to a fourth world status, with the complete elimination of the American Middle Class.

Even Jacques Attali -- who is like the Henry Kissinger of France, who spearheaded the EU -- said in his book Millenium: Winners and Losers in the Coming World Order, that around this time, as the US fights to bring so-called "democracy" to the Middle East, it would be met with an influx of immigration from the south. He said that this would ultimately bankrupt the US and that the next boat people leaving a country to find work abroad would be the American people. He wrote this in 1992, though this was planned even well before then. What was written about by elitists in their own publications 30-40 years ago is now coming into fruition.

The European Union was simply the precursor to the NAU, and like the NAU, it was done behind the people's backs and without their informed consent by the global elitists. The goal of the global elite is to create THREE trilateral regional blocs subservient to one all-powerful government: A Pan-American bloc, a Euopean bloc, and an Asian bloc. Once all three are completed, they will be merged into one, with one government over all three blocs -- that government being the United Nations, which was created after WW II to become the eventual world government.

Many Europeans WHO UNDERSTAND HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT are strongly opposed to the European Union, which subverted the laws and sovereignty of their respective countries, in place of supranational body of mostly unelected bureaucrats.

 

america is returning to its monarchists roots


when the middleclass of america overthrew the monarchy around the late 1700's they did so because they were educated, moneyed and within an elite and most importantly were far away from the colonial power that was trying to stay in control of that area (america).

when the middle class succeeded in their aims they drew up a constitution that aimed to create a society based on their ideals, a society based on some merit rather than privilege and one based on personal freedom within reasonable limits.

as this society evolved it also met with resistance from the original inhabitants and also from the southern states. the middle class of the south were defeated by the middle class of the north and the power that came with that became concentrated into their hands.

as time went on and society came to terms with this concentration of power into fewer and fewer peoples hands it wasn't too long before people started realising that the original ideal of america had been sold out. to have a powerbase concentrated into the hands of very few people flew in the face of the original constitution. an educated , wealthy traditionally middleclass baulks at dictators yet given monetary subsidies quickly falls in line. this is why any interest group that has taken over america has always relied heavily on tax cuts to placate that section of society that could traditionally do them most harm.

with economic pruning in the form of interest rate rises the lower middle class can be wiped out without a whimper. it will hurt some middleclass but only the ones who have no financial education and whoms position does not rest on merit but existing bank balance.

as time goes by as the money supply becomes smaller power becomes concentrated into the hands of those people who have created the "crisis" in the first place.

if the unemployment rate rises then you can simply put the lower orders into the infantry and attack a resource rich country. those who die will need no further paychecks from the government. the veterans may become a problem by returning and turning to crime but they can be handled. the existing veterans can be relied upon to support whatever war is deemed to be necessary.

to be continued...

 

can someone explain to me this...

Control, power, greed, I understand. I understand they would sell us out to be powerful on a greater level.

Why would the elites purposely trash this country and leave it in rubble? What would they then control? What power would they then have?

Pressed rat keeps saying the depressions of the early 20th cent. were the doings of the elites, but maybe they were just control experiments of a new economy. Not something to destroy America.

So whats up with all the doomsday predictions? Can we really believe that over 500 congressmen would lead us to oblivion?

 

I thought you might find this of interest http://youtube.com/watch?v=KjZBOCAgR64

 

The big boys at the top are internationalists, therefore they have no allegience to any particular country or its people. They actually seek to end the existence of sovereign nation states in place of a supranational world government, which will be fascistic at the top and administered through a form of scientific socialism. This is not a new plan, but one that has been in the works for many generations and has been openly admitted by the Elite themselves. America, from its beginning, was set up to serve the agenda it is today, and it's purpose was to be used as the vehicle to usher in a world government, only to be toppled once it was done serving its purpose bringing in a standardized system of so-called "democracy" and culture to the world. The U.S. was once commonly referred to as the New World, hence the New World Order.

To think these people are working for the betterment of humanity seems quite contradictory when you look at the massive suffering through the wars these people have waged, always funding both sides to create the desired outcome. These are not only the same people who triggered the depression, but also bankrolled Communism and funded Hitler and the rise of the Third Reich. They are behind much of the suffering today that occurs in the name of wars, famine and poverty. These are the same people who have written openly about reducing a large percentage of the population in order to save mother earth.

It's easy for the average person to think that these people might be pure in their intentions, until you look into who these people are and what their agenda really is. Their agenda is to control every man, woman and child on the planet by eliminating all free thought and individuality. They want a completely managed system of control, where people are predictable and exist only to serve their elite masters. These people are aiming for the Brave New World described by Aldous Huxley, which is a world where people are purpose-bred and have all their thoughts and emotions fed into them.

 

wait wait wait, so why bring him up in the first place??

So, you can bad mouth him, but no one can defend him? That is highly unfair. I mean, if I bad mouthed him, you wouldn't have a problem with me posting about him. But god forbid I were to speak ill of Obama in regards to the economy.

Kind of cheap, to bad mouth Ron Paul and than call off all discussion on that topic, without showing us resources.

If we are talking about the economy, a huge part of the discussion for many people is what the 2008 presidental candiates will do to fix it: included in the canidates is Ron Paul, last time I checked. It is completely relevant to mention him! Likewise, it is just as releveant to mention any candiadate in regards to the economy, what this topic is about.

If you don't want talk on Ron here, fine, than practice what you preach, no talk on him. Totally unfair to bad mouth him than use your powers to silence anyone defending him! So you won't allow anyone to showcase what good hemight do? wait, so this is a free speech forum, right? I mean, mentioning him in regards to the economy is totally on topic. Or, if you'd like, I'll just post Obama's plans for the economy and everything will be peachy eh?

 

Yeah, you did. Post #11

 

Do you agree or disagree: One world state is inevitable. Its the natural progression of human civilization.

My beef is that they seem to be accelerating the process of one state world, at the expense of the workers.

If you are anti globalist, I ask how can you be so? Its like a survivalist who hates civilization, you can live like that but don't expect the world to follow. Globalization is the next step of civilization.

Finally, what makes you so sure they will be fascist and socialist? I still hold out that they shit on the common man simply because the common man can't possibly undestand whats at stake here. Ignorance is bliss! (in this case)

 

It's only inevitable because we have been conditioned through the media and public edu-indoctrination system to believe it's inevitable, or the next step in "global evolution." It's sold under the guise of world peace and brotherhood, but I can guarantee you that for the people working to implement this, that could not be further from the truth. Let me ask you, what do you know about these people working to implement this? If it is for the betterment of humanity, then why all the secrecy? What gives these people the right to move us in a direction they see as being favorable to their agenda, without the people's informed consent? What gives them the right or the power to foment wars for their own diabolical agenda? What gives them the right to create money and control the value of that money as a means of control? What gives them the right to call for eugenics policies that entail the culling of large portions of the global population?

Open your eyes and look around you! Can you not see the direction in which things are headed in terms of a more controlled and constantly surveilled society, reminiscent of Orwell's 1984?