Forget a Recession! A GREAT DEPRESSION is coming!

A one world state is inevitable on only 2 paths as the outcome from the design of needing some base policies and requiring to not infringe on the necessary human capacity for freedom. 100% control by the elite or 100% human acceptance.

Since we still can't keep racism and bigotry out of a single city, much less a single country, the 100% human acceptance needs about another 5 million years for the majority or humankind to stop being judgemental pricks and just think of every other person as just that; a person.

What does that leave?

 

Way to ignore globalism and foreign market safety nets.

 

Ron Paul being included in someone's signature does not bring up the topic of Ron Paul, nor does it include the 2 paragraphs you decided to write of your opinion about him. Also, who the hell are you to decide what spam is? Free speech, free thought? Freedom of opinion, and expression?

Now watch Skip delete my posts or account because he censors free speech and can't admit he was wrong.

By the way, ANYONE CAN SOUND SUPER INTIMIDATING WHEN THEY'RE THE WEBMASTER, SO DO SOMETHING OR SHUT THE FUCK UP. DON'T THREATEN ME. I CAN USE BIG LETTERS AND ALL CAPS TOO.

 

I appreciate your opinion. Not to invalidate your points, I just don't want to bomb the thread so I'll pick at what interested me most about your post. If you my reply piques your interest, I eagerly await yours.
-Can you not see the direction in which things are headed in terms of a more controlled and constantly surveilled society, reminiscent of Orwell's 1984?

Yes! It makes so much fucking sense! What I will suggest to you is, what makes sense, is not always the truth. Heres an example of when people thought the same thing and were wrong.
During the civil war, more liberties were suspended than any other time in U.S. history. To the point where the President alone disobeyed the Supreme Court (!) and got away with it. His reasoning was that to save the Constitution, you must at times disregard it. BTW, unlike today, these violations of the constitution were widely used on average American citizens sometimes for arbitrary political reasons.
Did we end up as a fascist state? Were we enslaved?
But you didn't say that, you said control. And what the heck is wrong with control. Point to any time in history where civilization existed without control of its people. Even in democracy, (even in ideal democracy, which IMO America is not btw...), how can government function without a level of control over its people?

 

As for sovereignty...
Was New York's sovereignty destroyed when we created a federal government? It was certainly decreased, but because it was a great benefit to us. Globalism is the exact same thing, we are NOT making one huge blob of a country. We are merely uniting economically.

 

Did we end up as a fascist state? Were we enslaved?
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well some people said a lot happened because of this kind of thing

abraham lincoln was himself assassinated which in itself is curious.

the result of the civil war was that the southern states could no longer rule themselves or control their destiny without interference from the north, the southern states also grew a lot of food, which was also a problem for the other parts of america and were rich in resources. these states could not be allowed to go it alone so they were attacked. the slavery thing was a side issue, the buffalo soldiers made good cannon fodder.

 

What the hell... talk about panic mode. Its a recession, not a depression, and its not even here yet. If its like 2001 (one of the mildest recessions on record), its going to be another blip on a very long period of strong growth.

Get real - recessions come along once a decade or so, and then broken clocks like Rat think they have the right time.

And all this private Federal Reserve crap - lies don't get more true by repeating them.

 

The recession isn't here yet? According to which talking head?

 

That's true, and several countries have already adopted the US dollar as legal tender (or allow its use alongside the local currency): Panama, Ecuador, El Salvador, East Timor, Paulu, Micronesia, the Marshall Islands, the British Virgin Islands, and the Turks and Caicos Islands. Why haven't all these countries merged their political systems with the United States?

And to the UK, add Iceland and Norway, which don't use the Euro, and Switzerland which never even joined the EU.

A recession is commonly defined as two consecutive quarters of negative growth. The US has yet to report a single quarter of negative growth, although the likelihood of it happening appears to be rising. You can predict a recession, but nobody can prove that its already here.

 

We were talking about this today in economics class. There are so many events that led up to the Great Depression of the 20s that are happening now. There was also a thing on the news about it and now you post it, it's like whoa. But you know, it's sad. It's not other countries that will destroy us...it's our own people that will. ( now im not talking about every single person & point fingers) However, remember Enron? and I know everyone remembers 9.11.01. Well, it wasn't the terrorists that destroyed our economy that day, it was our own gov't and people. We act strong but really, our economy is really shitty. It's sad a 17 year - old and younger people know about this shit instead of living and having fun in their young lives. But we hear all the time, "Well, you need a really good college degree and/or schooling to get somewhere in this world today." blahdablahdablahda....and it's very true. You just can't come out of high school anymore and just get a job and live off of it like you used to back in what? 1970s? or before? Something needs to be done, and Bush & Congress are considering giving us (lower income people) a tax rebate of about 300-800 dollars. Because he knows if he gives it back to the middle-higher income people, they will just put it in savings. If he gives it to families ( like mine ) that are living pay check to paycheck, he knows they will go to like Walmart, Payless, you know anywhere and spend it and keep the economy going. Who knows how much that will help the economy doing that but it is a start.


Thanks for the post Skip

~Peace~
Peacechicka

 

Okay look people.

The economy slowed in the 60s and in the 80s.

This is not that big of a deal.

Several major companies will probably die out.

But we're not heading towards another economic depression.

And if we are, I'll be in a better spot than most people......just thought of bragging.

 

The economy isn't simply slowing. Once the currency collapses, that's it. This is an issue to do with currency, not simply a slowing of the economy. The more they cut the interest rate and add liquidity to the markets, the further the dollar will go. And it can only go in one direction, which is down. Some economists are saying it would be better to just let the stock market crash now, rather than prolong it by continuing to cut the interest rate, which will result in a major currency crisis in the next year or two. That is if something doesn't happen before then.

Besides, I know the agenda and I know what their plans are, so that even further cements what I know is going to happen. I was saying YEARS ago that this would happen, and it would happen deliberately as a pretext for a totalitarian system of government. I was right. It wasn't because I'm psychic, but because I am more in-tune with what's going on than the average person who gets all their news from one or two sources.

And don't be so arrogant, because Canada is going to get hit hard by this, too, as is much of the world.

 

yes canada is too deeply vested in corporate exploitation in the congo. everyone, it seems, has at least a few warts hidden away somewhere.

even shrubery the simple is starting to shit bricks, not that he's gotten any more sense about it.

there is one difference from the 30s, though. this time it ISN'T just the u.s. and one or two european enclaves, its EVERY stock market on the planet.

we do still have sociable insecurity and the f.d.i.c. but our cash ain't nothin but trash, oh thank 'the fed'.

well totalaterian isn't the only alternative to little green pieces of paper, that's the scare-line propiganda to pretend that it is. of course the engineers of shock capitalism WANT totalitarianism that lines their own pockets and if we don't like it they can ship us all to slave labour camps.

but there's nothing preordained about any of that either. we really need to wake up and start looking beyond familiar asumptions.

green infrastucture is part of the way out, the only way out, and ultimately the survival of the human species if it is to do so.

and possibly green infrastructure based on something resembling a modified form of potlatching, but yes it's a long and rocky road, possibly by way of famine and disease land, before we get there. just all depends. there are still bypassess of worse case conditions that can be taken, though they are, granted, beyond the radar of any remotely familiar way of doing things.

you know, no one in the 1930s would have bought the ragunoid nonsense that markets regulate themselves, that was the crap that was tried in the 20s that resaulted in the 30s. i think we're idiots to have to learn that all over again the hard way though.

and that's not just hindsight either. a LOT of people KNEW better, but the temptation to take the short term highgrade drowned out their being listened to where decissions were actually being made.

it isn't fate or devine intervention, just plain old simple cause and effect, having been ignored and denied.

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Totalitarianism isn't the "alternative" to money, it's the means to achieving their ends which is totalitarianism. The ones who print the money out of nothing want power. Money is simply the means by which they control the "little people."

People never ask themselves what gives a handful of powerful men the right to print money out of nothing, then determine its value, giving them the power to make and break entire nations at their own will.

 

Rat, you are completely ignorant of economics. You only know what your conspiracy websites tell you to think.

If you predict a recession every year, once a decade you will be right. Its like a broken clock that is right twice a day.

If low interest rates resulted in currency collapses and a totalitarian government, why didn't that happen in Japan, which endured a decade long recession and near zero interest rates? The answer is you absolutely no clue, because your conspiracy websites didn't tell you about that and you don't really understand markets or economics anyway.

The Fed is not trying to support the dollar, they are trying to support the economy. Cutting rates boosts growth. All countries cut rates when their economies slow down, and if that makes their currencies less appealing then their currencies depreciate, so be it. Not only does this have several precedents in US history, it is the same story in major economies throughout the world. There is nothing unprecedented happening here.

 

I don't go to "conspiracy websites," whatever those are. You can keep repeating that mantra all you want to try and make me look bad, but I frankly don't care. You have proven yourself time and time again to be the disingenuous shill and government apologist you are. Nobody listens to you.

I never predicted a recession for previous years. I predicted an economic collapse, which I said would happen between this time and 2010.

If the FED is trying to "support the economy," then why has the FED decimated the value of our currency, printing money out of nothing, while creating artificially low interest rates? Has this helped the value of the currency? Has or hasn't inflation driven prices through the roof? Who has this benefited? Has it helped working class people who live from paycheck to paycheck? Is the quality of life getting better or worse in America? In your little yuppie fantasy world I am sure things are just fine, but they're not for most people.

Yeah, nothing is happening. The government loves you. The economy is thriving, the North American Union is a conspiracy theory, and George Bush is the world's greatest humanitarian. Up is down and down is up, and if you say otherwise, well, then I guess you're just a kook. The controlled media knows what's best for us and, well golly, they would surely inform us if something was amiss.

Now please everyone do as my signature suggests and go back to sleep. Everything is normal and as it should be. Just keep repeating that mantra and you will come to believe it and everything will be just fine.

Ignorance truly is bliss.

 

governments up to no good have to placate the middle class because having money and education they can easiy overwhelm a government, just ask the french, the cubans and the americans about the middle class and revolutions.

you can't buy the middle class with chicken feed like a couple of thousand dollars, they would use this kind of money within a week on stuff like subsidised SUV's or maybe a couple of weeks worth of a private school. you have to give them tax breaks on their savings. as everything goes to hell there will be plenty of people behind gated communities smiling and getting on with business as usual.

so is the way of the world.