Well, when I eat magic mushrooms, I get an overwhelming sense of Shiva's consort Parvati, that She is teaching us why beautiful things are painful and why pain is necessary. Empathy is that root of consciousness I believe, and those who ate mushrooms a million years ago most likely evolved because of them. With LSD I get a sense of astral connection, however considering the tripple nature of existence, there is no contact (for me) with the causal realm. If we are composed of astral light and energy, that realm is composed of causal thought alone, so if that is the case, we are nothing more than dream matter. Now with mushrooms I start to feel the astral connection, but quickly am catapulted into the causal and feel that the light weaving and energy perception LSD brings is, well, kind of a block in the road, however it can be trascended. LSD seems to cause a bubbling perception of Om, while mushrooms cause a streaming or whirring perception of it. They are entirely different in that aspect. So with the causal, yes we as manipulators of what thought has been created for us, in fact what we are in essence, we can redirect evolution in such profound ways. However I am of the opinion that magic mushrooms are Parvatis gifts to us, to enable us to reach under the veil of the sense screen and out into the mechanical workings of our loving universe. Remember, the dude who came up with the model for the DNA structure did have insight from LSD, but cultures from all over the world and for thousands and thousands of years have left foot prints in the form of the doulbe snake pattern, and surely these shamans were using either magic mushrooms or going into deep states of natural samadhi. God Bless +
By the way the basis for my opinion of LSD in that light, comes from my main guruji Paramahansa Yogananda, a person who was talking and writing books on deep meditative effort with astral/causal receptivity before LSD was to be discovered. He warned us that when we see colours and playful energy in our mind and outside, that this is the realm of the astral and not to be distracted by sensation. He said our 3rd eye, or ajna chakra, see's many things which are playful but a student of the Absolute need's to stay focused on the cause and not the activity of reality as it's being generated. The man was giving spiritual advice for psychedelic trips without taking any himself or LSD even being around yet :tongue: It's not my only reason, nor is it that I cant think for myself, but the man has transcended Nature and probed the mind in ways that are beyond any explanation. Same with Sri Yukteswar Giri whose wisdom and writing on life and God are light years from being totally understood, even in a collective sense. God Bless +
right on 'layer. I kinda feel bad because you put tons of thought into that comment and I was only babbling on because I was all high on oc's. I think textbook history is very incomplete about these areas and one needs to search the depths of his soul on which the history of the cosmos is imprinted, wherein one can interact with ancestral souls and realms. have you combined shrooms and L, layer? I keep meaning to find some trip reports with that combo. sounds like a well-rounded journey. I wonder if you ever felt like the incompleteness of lsd was filled in by the shrooms or something...
Actually Burny I have one time! And I have to as expected Im sure, say that yes, it was as you say, but I guess the main factor would be that I ate the LSD around 7pm and ate the magic mushrooms around 12-1am. The best way I can put it, it was like during the acid trip, I was having fun with 2 other friends. We lived in SW Philly at the time, and there happened to be a block party that night, so we went and talked with all the little kids and parents who were partying in the ghetto :tongue: We had profound conversations, filled up with bliss, and when we went back inside we just sat and played some music (piano and guitar) and were relaxing. Actually Im telling the story a bit wrong, only my friend and I ate acid, the other friend ate mushrooms, hence the oppuritunity. So around midnight I was not exactly coming down, rather I was peaking, but was feeling like "man this is not where I want to be" So I ate an 1/8 of the mushrooms, and within 5 minutes I was blown into complete bliss and a profound meditative state where I was unable to move or speak, just sit and smile as everything started bubbling out. One thing I find interesting, is that on acid, whenever I switch rooms where the lighting is more bright, say, a bathrooms, the intensity of the light starts to grow and it gets brighter. But with the mushroom effects melting into the acid effects, the colour of white light grew in intensity so much that it started to be, in a way, painful. Like the frequency was going out of wack and 'light' was buzzing louder and louder. Anyway besides that (I dont remember much of it now, it was last year during a period of tripping several times a week), around 5am I ate another 1/8 of the mushrooms. I sat and tried to meditate as the Sun rose out my window, and within minutes I was on the bed in hugging myself, going into seizure like electic fits and my open eye vision burst into a kaleidescope that wouldnt fade. So naturally I was rendered immobile for the next hour or so. All I can say, is that even with the 3rd redose in less than 12 hours which was too overwhelming, that was one of the greatest tripping experiences I've ever had, in terms of realization and the length it lasted. As far as divinity and pure spirituality, a simple 1/8 of magic mushrooms still takes the cake for me. I guess were all different really, because I get conflicting opinions from every corner of the world that I've ventured to and popped the question. Thank you for taking an interest friend! God Bless +
nice. thanks for posting that. Sort of pokes holes in the tolerance issue tripping several times in a week haha. Yeah I really want to combine the two, or even just eat a huge amount of shrooms, like a quad. My second trip ever was on half an eighth of shrooms and I was at Silver Falls, OR. it produced the most unbelievable feelings of bliss and rapture I was amazed that a simple chemical could produce such a pure feeling, but then I didn't know much about psychedelia then and dismissed the experience as inauthentic, but now I know it wasn't and I want the fungus again
That sound's awesome I've eaten some heavy, heavy doses of mushrooms in my short time. The most was just under an ounce dried, followed by a beer bottle of mushroom tea at a Rainbow gathering. Pretty much stared at the fire for 4 hours, too afraid to move because I was in hyper drive. Never had visuals like that again! haha It was like everything you think psychedelics are capable of before you try them. God Bless +
I actualy love combos. Simple reason is that every drug has its own characteristics and is opening certain doors, but when they are combined, more doors are opened and the expirience is unique, and (at least to me) very, very special, and no matter how much you repeat your combo with exactly same amount of drugs, every one is very special and it can't be repeated, for a simple reason that once you opened some doors, they stay opened forever, you just continue to open more doors and you can't go back to situation to reopen the same door. But the more doors you open at once (by doing combo)the more doors to be opened appear instantly, and your progression goes in more directions, instead using only one direction (one drug). This can be very overwhelming and sometimes people open so much doors that they can't cope with and they just don't remember their trip. The best quality trip to me dosn't necessary mean that you need to take hero dose of one drug, but to combine couple of drugs with normal dose at the same time, and that way all whats happening, happens slower and let you get used on newly opened doors and to remember and understand what happened to you. How many of you guys like to smoke weed while tripping? Thats the exact example of what I am talking about. When you add to that a line of Kethamine, or DMT, maybe line of coke the expirience is totaly different and (to me) very enjoyable and (spiritualy) educational.
thanks shifter. that actually helps me a bit because i've been wondering about my next trip. what it'll be like and what I want out of it. naturally my mind projects things i.'ve already experienced on acid but I know I can't expect the same things as before. and my last trip kicked my ass and was humbling and seemed to indicate that I should forget everything I know about acid and welcome whatever new energies come. but along with that comes uncertainty and a tiny bit of fear.
I am glad it makes sence to you what I said. And you are completely right with your way of thinking. There is only one little thing that I would like to add. There is no need to fear anything, if you know who you are. When you know who you are, and hold on love, there is nothing bad that can happen to you, anything that comes your way, you can accept it and enjoy it. Problem comes if there is part of you that you don't know, but even then you might expirience tough time, but those times are also very benefitial because they give you opportunity to find out what you don't like about yourself and you can improve your personality, witch leads to opening more new doors. You can't open some doors unless you deserve to open those doors. You know what I am talking about, right? Its the source of great power, both mental and physical, and if personality is not pure enough to have access to that power, it just can get there. Thats why it is soooo important to implement all the "discoveries" from trip in normal day to day life. Because if you want world to change, you must be the change you want to see the world change in to. The more you progress, more you are aware that you are actually changing the world. Just remember "The Celestine prophecy", thats why I love that movie. So, my friend, I can feel you and belive me on this one - you don't need to be afraid of anything! Lots of love!!
i had a very fun LSD experience last week. me and two very good buddies, P and S, went climbing at Redrock national park just outside of Las Vegas (refer to sig, although that pic is old and is a different mountain). Fucking beautiful. We dosed on the way there in the car, i took 1, S took 1, and P took 2 (he is always 1-upping us ). We had a backpack full of water so we were set. I had just woken up 30 minutes before dosing, and had an empty stomache which I prefer on acid as it makes me wanna puke if im even a little full. We arrived at 4pm and at first the sun was beating down on us and I felt rather lethargic on the come-up. But as we ascended up past a creek and a meadow, into the actual climb, it got nicer as we were on the shadowy side of the mountain. We found this cool ledge on a bigass rock to sit on and chill while the effects took hold. Some grins and references to trees, leaves, and multicolored growths on the dark red rock kicked off the trip. Plus, being with P and S, both experienced trippers as well as myself, its always a comfortable setting no matter where we go on L. We jumped off the ledge about 50-70 minutes after ingestion and started hiking, it was simply amazing. Nature can create such wonderful things, we ended up going through 3 big cave-tunnels, resembling an art museum as P called it. Me and S were ahead of P most of the way, he was taking it slow as he was tripping balls. After a bit I sort of led the way, I've never felt so energetic since I was a kid. Walking around constantly, leaping over boulders, peering in crevices and caves which revealed truly unique colors and surfaces, my favorite were the water erosion types as they were rounded and smooth. One big rock we took a break on was covered in huge plates of hard red compacted sand pretty much. S picked up a huge sheet of it and dropped it on accident, fragmenting it everywhere. We tried to put it back together but it was futile. At one point in the trip, P was hanging around once of the only trees we saw on the mountain and we laughed saying he was a "tree hugging hippie" in good fun. The view was amazing though, the sun was setting and the clouds were a crazy red-purple tint. The moon was fully visible also, and you could see Las Vegas in the distance all covered in air pollution. At around 7pm we decided to head back down as it was getting dark soon. We were all pretty exhausted, and I think being out in nature made me feel alot more at peace than tripping indoors. The constant quietness is unfamiliar for a city dweller but it lets you take in the magnificent mother earth without interruption, very calming. We got back to S's car at a little past 8pm and headed back, still peaked. And yes he drives on acid and I am completely comfortable with it as he is a good driver and stable person. Going home was interesting. Talked to my dad for a while and gave him a hug since he was leaving the next day for a fishing trip. Chilled out and watched the rest of Weeds season 3, walked to the grocery store at midnight to get some hamburgers and tea. Hamburgers are fucking bomb coming off the peak of an acid trip. Thats pretty much it
hahaha nice, meat. sounds like a solid experience. I love the show Weeds there are very few programs of that level of quality, and not just b/c I like weed. I also love tripping in the desert; you can see for miles and there's just something about it Shifter: thank you man, I think I programmed a glitch into my brain from my last trip and I was wondering if there was some secret I was supposed to unfold or something but I just needed to know from someone with deeper experience that there was nothing to fear. namaste