Fuck Christianity!!!

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by MichaelByrd1967, Mar 8, 2006.

  1. Portalguy

    Portalguy Member

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    I kind of got the idea of your hate by your constant posting on the F Christianity thread full of antiChristianity stuff. But, if you don't that's cool. Let this debate continue. I'm not going to feed this thread any longer. Let's start another thread. I await your response heron.
     
  2. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    You are a fool. God told me to tell you this. Listen to God.
     
  3. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    This is where JD4U's logic fails. It is God's actions in the world (fulfillment of prophecy, or God showing us personal attention in our own lives) that provide proof for the truths contained in the Bible. It is God's actions in the world that show where the Bible is incorrect as well (Ecclesiastes, Solomon's musings, some parts of proverbs, some psalms that call for the death of enemies instead of asking God to teach them to do right, etc.).

    Even Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son teaches us that we should use our own judgement of right and wrong, not just rely upon God's commands (although God saved Abraham from killing his son at the last minute, because Abraham had not yet put 2 & 2 together). God wants us to know right and wrong, not blindly follow the commands of the rich (God or Kings).
     
  4. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    That isn't the only reason God kills.
     
  5. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Worshipping God's subordinate deities (pagan "gods") misses the point that one God rules all. It's like worshipping a general instead of the emperor that leads the general.

    Interesting, you can correctly spell worshiping with one or two p(s). I wonder why that is?
     
  6. heron

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    I have hardly "constantly" posted on this thread, all but one was in response to your post directly. If you read my initial post, it is in defense of some of the best Christians i have ever met.

    I strongly dislike "christianity", and what it has become since Christs teachings, but on individual basis, i like lots of Christians. No room for hate, i dont hate people because they are different than me, i find better reasons.

    Kharakov, you're an idiot, do you not realize that your god, of the bible that is, is nothing more than a lowely semitic god who set out to be the "one" by lies and deception? Study your old myths. Oh wait, that is just the devils lies, my bad. I dont even give you the credit of worshiping that god though, you worship a man who claimed to be his son, led a failed revolution and was killed because of it. You might as well worship Castro, he succeeded in winning his rebellion, Jesus failed miserably.

    Oh, and that wasnt "hate" just a rebuttle.
     
  7. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Really?
    No, that would be like worshipping a general instead of the emperor.
     
  8. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    You mean to tell me that Christ's death isn't generally referred to as a sacrifice? Give me a break, you are only trying to win an argument and playing with words to do so. Any christian will tell you that they consider christ's death a sacrifice - I guess unless they are trying to claim human sacrifice in other rings is somehow "evil" (like you are). Face it, you have double-standards, and you are only helping that point become more obvious.

    Hell, just google "christ, sacrifice" and tell me I am wrong.
     
  9. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    thats not the story moral man. the point of the story was that trust is god no matter what and good will happen even in the worst situations.
     
  10. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    he diddnt lead a rebelion. he even told people to obey the laws and pay taxes and shit
     
  11. Monolith

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    You havnt seen those anywhere... I havnt considered myself a Christian for around 3 years now...

    I know I am running in it in the ground but no body has really addressed it yet...
    but all those first born kids ... yeah I am sure they all wanted to die before they had the ability to live their lives...
     
  12. Monolith

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    Jephthah Burns His Daughter



    "At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, "If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering."



    "So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith – twenty towns – and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites. When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter – his only child – ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish. "My daughter!" he cried out. "My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back." And she said, "Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites. But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin." "You may go," Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children. When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter." (Judges 11:29-40 NLT)





    God Commands Burning Humans



    [The Lord speaking] "The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has, for he has broken the covenant of the LORD and has done a horrible thing in Israel." (Joshua 7:15 NLT)





    Josiah and Human Sacrifice



    At the LORD's command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD's command, he shouted, "O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you." (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT)





    So the next time some Christian tells you about the "love of God", show them this page and ask them "Why does God want me to burn animals and humans?"

    Taken from a website http://www.evilbible.com/Ritual_Human_Sacrifice.htm

    Thats just a few verses about human sacrifice in the bible...
     
  13. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    dude, thats morman crap. in protestant and catholic bibles (real christians) there is no one named Jephthah. mormans are a cult man
     
  14. Monolith

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    Uh ... your wrong... I am using King James Version right now and Jephthah is in there... those verses where taken from New Living Translation(hince the little NLT).

    Besides what makes Mormons a cult?
     
  15. Flight From Ashiya

    Flight From Ashiya Senior Member

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    'The Lord is my Shepherd,I'll not want. He leadeth me in pastures green'.

    This Thread is the proof!!.
     
  16. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    The Bible states call no man a fool. You must have the wrong God.
     
  17. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    No it doesn't. It says to call a man "fool" puts you at risk of hellfire (punishment from God).
    I don't.
     
  18. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    God has the ability and authority to give life and take life. Overall, everyone is guilty because of original sin. Yet, it seems unfair that innocent kids would die for something they cannot control. But God is a fair and just God but no one really knows on earth how all of it plays out.
     
  19. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    Fine then you are at risk of hellfire...
     
  20. Monolith

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    I dont mean to sound harsh but Original sin is a very illogical concept. Being held accountable for what someone did eons ago... I mean think about it man... My neice she is 1 year old and first born she doesnt know evil she doesnt know anything bad, she is the most pure innocent thing on this planet... yet she could be killed by god and then her death would be justified because she is guilty of "original sin". That is insanity. I know she is not going to be killed by some god because of failure to put goats blood on a door. But it supposedly happened back then(I highly doubt it myself). I think it might have been first born sons... but it still doesnt matter the concept is the same.
     

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