hahaha and good morning to you! Yea I guess the fact that the Magi are only referred to in I believe, 1 testament? Matthews? Maybe Im wrong, but there just isnt enough to go on there. But Im hopeful :tongue:
oh i dunno,,, i have never read the bible to be quite honest...... of all the religious based stuff out there it has been the least interesting for me to delve into.... never bothered to read more than the demanded manger scene part, the flood and noah and the 7 day creation thing
Hey dude, Right on! I've fukken hated christmas since day 1. Good Thread. I once had an idea concerning a movement using furniture and fucking and the corprate world. It involved alot of stress, hilarity and physical contact. Thank you for making me remember.
I dont know if anyone has mentioned this but Christians raped pagan holidays to make it into the Christmas you know today, every aspect of Christmas has an original pagan counterpart. Along with every other Christian holiday (besides the ones that are also celebrated in Judaism). Christmas Tree- Germanic Pagans had a Yule log, and yule was(and still is) celebrated around December 21st. Gift Giving- Roman holiday of Saternalia took place near the 25th. Santa Clause- Odin, i mean come on he has reindeer named Donner and Blitzen(sp?) Those come from germanic words for Thunder and Lightning. The only thing about Christmas that is Christian is in fact the supposed birth of Jesus of Nazareth, which most scholars suggest happened in the spring or summer anyways. The reason this time of year was "Christianized" was so it would be easier for all the pagans to convert to Christianity if they had their familiar holidays around the same time of year and mostly the same stuff was involved.
I wanna big bag of weed and sex for Xmas.... see, you can celabrate w/out supporting of the corporate scum.
Christmas has it's flaws, yes. Santa is just a way to bribe children into good behavior. But I don't think there's anything wrong with Christmas. It's my favorite holiday and it's always a great excuse to get family together, 'cause we don't get together for shit. No family reunions, nothing. Christmas is the best we have. And the gifts part I think is fine and great. I love to give gifts to my loved ones. My greatest regret this year will be not having the money to get anything for my mom and sister. And who doesn't like to get? I never got much, and I admit I still would like to get something nice once and awhile. Gift giving is a nice way to teach kids about giving. We never believed in Santa Claus growing up. We gave gratitude to whom it was due, we learned to appreciate what we had and that it feels good to see someone else's excitement over something you gave them.
This is definitely something I'll stay up nights worrying about. Maybe someone has identified a supernova event on or about (observation date) AD 0? There was another big one in AD 1054 (meaning it happened around BC 5500), according to astronomer Yang Wei. That one is today the Crab Nebula. However, to associate a supernova event happening thousands of years previously with the birth of some kid in the middle east makes about as much sense as some astrology buff telling me I've got some personality trait because on the date of my birth the sun was at a certain point in its (apparent) orbit about the earth. Wakey wakey! As for getting presents, most people give me the best gift possible, the gift of silence, by leaving me alone.
well my first thaugt was that no music sucks, it depends on your standards. but then my brain came alive and im glad to see some inteligent life. it doesent seem to mater where in the western world you are, it all sucks this time a year. sweden is cold, and christmascrap everywhere. i cant know how its in the us, but my first thaugt is that is worse than here. more hysterical. its now wonder your kids shoot eatch other. yeah thas right, i blame cristmas for everything. aah fuckit. now IM to lazy to kep writing. (if my spelling is bad, tuf shit. im dyslectic and swedish. otherwise, i got lucky)
Christmas carols are best heard in small doses. However, I heard a choral version of "O Holy Night" on the radio this morning, and the beauty and spirituality of the singing were obvious. The RCA Victor Singers, conducted by Richard Westenberg, performed at the Fifth Avenue Presbyterian Church in New York City. And I want to find that lead soprano and marry her.Fall on your knees, to hear the angels voices! O night divine! The night the Christ was born! O night divine! O night, O night divine!
bump, and ill add something presents are traps, ill explain: commercials are made to go towards children, causing envy for these kids that are basically learned that love can be sold and purchased with presents. therefore if the child asks for something and doesnt receive it they make their parents feel like shit and almost guarantee that the next year they will get everything they want, with no concept of the hardship that they are putting their parents through. this is why i my parents, as fucked up as they were, still taught me early on about the concept of money. this made me grateful every time i got socks, or anything that i needed as opposed to wanted. avoid the traps set for you by society, society is not your friend, it is the enemy
Wow, this thread... I laughed soo hard reading through it all again, I blame the drugs and the parents... lol... But really, wow... I said some stupid shit. And i always denied having teen angst, this just shows...
See I think gifts are a trap for another reason, if someone buys you a gift, you feel obliged(and socially responsible) to buy them a gift. 1. it's not really a gift when the idea is to also get something back in return. 2. I just don't wanna buy you a fuckin gift
offtopic but.... this is exactly why I'm never going to have children. I'd lose all my free time and money by having to spend it with a mini-me.
Hahahahahahaha I looked back on my original post from a year ago, now I still support what I said about the homeless, but holy fuck too much acid has turned my cynical, fuck bringing people together, it's all a bunch of bullshit with people you either see every other day or only once a year at Christmas.
I am not religious at all and I still celebrate. It's a time to appreciate other people, you get holidays, and it helps the economy. Its only bad because YOU make it bad.