Fuck everyone who wants to kill themselves...come on kill yourself!!!fuck you...

When I read Lizardman’s thread, I felt like punching him (and I’m really not that aggressive), I know lots of people who complain about their shitty lifes and wish to kill themselves, and those stories are in 90% just an immature way to get cheap attention, but…I’ve thought about it and realized that in most cases I’m not aware of all the big problems people are dealing with and that we cannot really understand if we’re not in those people’s skin….I agree with Voodoo chile that solutions are all up to us and our will, but sometimes, when lots of bad things happen at the same time, we don’t have a strenght to deal with them and we can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel…

Voodoo was a bit brutal, but I understand him and agree with stuff he wrote, so give him a break….

 

like voodoo chile, we all have our issues.

 

dude. chill out.

 

Anyone who truly believes that people can just ‘snap out’ of a mental illness or say they hate someone who feels suicidal has never felt mental distress and I wouldn’t wish it on them even to show them how fucking stupid they are.

Clinical depression or the myriad of other mental illnesses that affect a quarter of adults at some time in their lives do not discriminate. You can feel like shit with the best life in the world because it is an ILLNESS. Pointing out people with ‘real’ problems and saying how beautiful the world is to someone who is just not capable of perceiving that only makes things worse for them.

You are an ignorant hypocrite for going on about how beautiful the world is and peace and love etc when you speak with such hate. I hope you are just naive and venting frustrations because some shitty things have happened in your life and you are looking for justice but the way you express yourself disgusts me. I would hate for someone who truly needed help to cross your path and commit suicide because you are unwilling to let go of your ignorant assumptions.

 

i agree with you totally.i'm so mad of people who say their life is booring and that they're going to kill themselves.i think that everyone is made for a purpose,everybody's made to make somebody else happy...and death is just a moment,life after death is pretty much boring

 

How did you find that out?

 

A bit off topic but just because someone broadcast their self-deprecation doesn't mean they are seeking attention. It's a bit conceited to believe that your presence is so desired that they NEED your attention and are wanting you to observe their "misery". Perhaps they have fallen into such deep apathy that you and the rest of the world are all just a blur to past time with. And if someone is seeking attention, it doesn't make them any less sick.



Just because someone isn't starving in a third world country, doesn't make their misery any less painful. Look at Britney Spears, you can not say she isn't sick, obviously a beautiful world and life aren't always cures for sadness. Some things stem from the past. Everyone is so quick to group all similar situations together. The only thing any suicidal people have in common is that they are suicidal, how they got that way, why they are that way, and the basis for their problems are all different.


The "everyone should realize the beauty in the world" theory is busted. I realize the beauty in the world, I am intelligent, I have good parents, meaningful goals for my life, a good record collection, stable friendships, etcetera. I know that I am blessed. I am well aware of the world I live in. And yet I am indeed one of those sad people. It's just a mind frame, death nor picking daisies fixes it. It's complicated.

 

A-men on this post, very well written. At the same time I can see why people not having these problems would not uderstand them. I have bipolar disorder and a couple other illnesses so I know what it's like.

 

Suicide is a very rare side effect with prozac, my dad has been on it for years and it works miracles. I hope you are not using this as a scare tactic for people who need these types of drugs to get them off them. I have been on several different drugs over the years for my anxiety depression and bipolar and have never had serious side effects. The truth is all these side effects you hear about are extreamly rare. Im not trying to accuse you of anything here, I speak in general, but a lot of mean people out there simply see the list of rare side effects and use them to scare the people taking the drugs so they will go off them and go more insane, causing more harm. For all you people out there who need these drugs don't fall for this garbage. Keep taking the medication you need and don't let people scare you with a lot of nonsence.

Yes in extreamly rare cases people do have side effects from the drugs, you may very well be one of those. It is like that with every single drug out there though and even with foods that we eat or chemicals we are around. There are side effects to everything but alot are probably a one in million chance or more.

 

A lot of good criticisms of voodoo chiles initial statement. But we shouldn't fault him. He's young and as someone pointed out, ignorant. But fortunate not to have experienced clinical depression. When i was his age i was pretty much of the same ignorance, you know, those who say they want to kill themselves, go ahead so i can stop hearing you say it, or that obese people need to lay off the donuts.. i hate to have said that one, but my point is i know that obesity is a disease, people dont want to be obese, people with depression dont want to be depressed. the stoics believe that its ok to kill yourself if you have to (epictetus, the discources) the best thing we could probably do is try to tell them we understand that they shouldn't feel that way, rationalize that they should feel better and that talking to your physician about it is the best first step. from there you'll have to try a lot of things to find the right thing to work for you. like some people feel better from buspar/paxil/cymbalta/welbutrin xl/oxycotin, wait! strike that last one, me injecting my humor. but if you read the literature on may of the new class of ssri's etc they don't know HOW they really work, they just seem to work in clinical studies, so you may have to try several until you find one that can get you out of your rut and back on your true path all depressed are in my thoughts and prayers....

 

Just wanted to pop in and say that the logic that those who are truly planning to kill themselves wouldn't post about it on a public board, is not necessarily true. Perhaps in the majority of cases yes it is. But sometimes someone may realize the danger they are in, and want desperately to be stopped as much as they want to end it all, so they may post about it on a board in a last-ditch effort to find some kind of hope to change their mind (even if they don't want it changed). It's sort of a bittersweet thing.

I know from experience that when one has suicidal tendecies due to a mental illness or other equally valid reason, and has been through enough "attempts" or "serious considerations", one begins to realize when they start spiraling out of control or are even just on that threshold of getting ready to spiral out of control, and also realizes that they longer they keep it a secret, the more real it's going to become. So by posting about it on a mesage board, they make it less serious, so to speak. Secrecy feeds the desire. Being open about it kills it. So yes, sometimes someone posting about may actually mean it.

I say all this so that not every person who posts about a suicidal plan is automatically blown off just because they posted about it. I do agree there's probably a lot of bogus, whiney, attention-seeking, misguided and ignorant suicide threats, but that doesn't change the fact that the one person out of 100 who is serious is worth taking seriously, just in case. It's one of those things you just kinda have to be nice about, and if it bugs you so much, just leave it alone, let it go, breathe...

Angry posts such as what this thread began with are not helpful in ANY case. Did the thought ever occur to you that maybe someone who posted an empty threat could be so hurt by the anger and the disrespect in this kind of attitude, being told "fuck you" and to go ahead and do it, could make that threat become real? Sometimes there's even a reason behind the empty threats, and it doesn't take a lot to turn it from empty to very real. Is venting your frustrations on these people worth the risk of possibly causing someone to cross this line? I don't think so.

And above all, truer words have never been said: "Don't knock it til you've been there". You can't truly know what it's like to wear someone's shoes until you've actually worn them and walked in them.

 

Well, if they want to kill themselves then something must be wrong (or they are attention seeking - maybe both.) Either way, you don't know what may have happened to them, so be careful what you say.

 

That made me laugh.

Hey, maybe that's the point in life.

 

Try living with schizophrnia ocd and depression like i do and not think about ending it. Your lucky you dont have a mental illness

 

The world was not fucked up enough before this post. Now it is just as fucked up as it should be. YOu have restored balance to the force, thank you.

 

Peace and Love.

Why are we talking about how fucked up the world is? There is a lot of negative energy on this thread.

 

i dont understand why kids get so mad at others for wanting to kill them selves, cant u see they need help, they just want one person to reach out and help them up, they need someone to talk to, someone thats not gonna judge them for how they feel.

i think we should acept and love them for who and what they are, so the kid was 16 saying that stuff, alot of 16 year olds feel as if they dont fit in, or face stuff everyday like me n u, remiber when u were a teen? have u ever felt like it? so please stop the hating, were all brothers and sisters

 

Maybe if you ever chance to experience true suffering, get lost for months in misery and find yourself at the brink of hopelessness then you will understand what these people are going through, and not be such an insensitive twat. Then again, you seem a bit limited in the field of critical thought, that may have something to do with it...

Suicide is foolish, of course... thinking emotionally is never a particularily logical thing to do... but emotion can be insanely overwhelming for people. I hold the deepest understanding and pity for those who cannot make it through their periods of sorrow, but christ, if only they would have held on, they would someday realize their selfishness and stupidity.