I think part of it is because there ARE so many murders and other terrible crimes against people. It is rather like disbelief ... with all the violence and brutality toward human beings that goes on in the world, people torture animals in addition ... it is the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. Unless one goes to an extremist animal rights forum, I doubt one would find people who value the lives of dogs over those of humans. People do terrible things to one another; being upset about extreme brutality to animals neither negates nor minimizes the horror of that. The gruesome acts of people against others always grab attention... they wind up on the cover of People magazine ... people murdering their spouses and children, serial killers, pedophiles, ethnic cleansing ... it seems one cannot open a newspaper or turn on a news broadcast without seeing something about such horrors.
I think the current outcry is justified. The only concern of mine is that it diverts attention from the fuck-up that is this current president. But that's beside the point. The point is, if Michael Vick brought up dozens children in captivity, torturing them into becoming fighting machines; and drowned, electrocuted, & hanged them for losing fights, the outcry damn well better be more vehement! Why? Because it's best to value human life over animal life. Don't take me wrong - his actions are barbaric and sadistic, as well as indicative of psychopathy. There's no reforming such individuals. Prison's pretty much where they belong. That said, I say lock him up and throw away the key. But again, if it had been to children, I just cannot say the same.
I think its blown a bit out of proportion. Theres a lot of country's where this kind of thing would not have made a ripple. Unfortunately here in North America we have it so good that we give special rights to animals. I dont think what Vick did was right but I dont think he should have his life ruined because of it. The man is king of mobile Quarterbacks.
(emphasis mine) What's the relevance? I mean, sure. But he's also demonstrated sociopathic tendencies.
How do you know he has no guilt for what he has done? If my ancestors were brought here on a boat and exploited and now I was making hundreds of millions of dollars in the NFL that might mess with my head a bit. Personally I wouldn't turn to dogfighting but Michael Vick did and im sure if he could turn back the clock he would. You can put your PETA card away, dont try and put such a broad generalization on me. By our society's standards what Michael Vick did was wrong. I dont personally agree with his choices with regards to dogfighting/killing. What will throwing him in jail do? Stop those dogs from being killed? no its already happened. He is serving his time right now, in the spotlight, no doubt getting hate mail from people such as yourself. He will not play in the NFL this year. That is as good as a jail sentence. Hes not going to do this again, and if he is so sick in the head he feels the need he'll move to a secluded location where there is no possibility of anyone finding out. He has the money. We kill animals all the time for food, is it such a far out idea that they may be killed for sport/pleasure also? We are condemning him for killing some dogs, whats next putting the owners of slaughterhouses on trial? The line has to be drawn somewhere, if it were not for humans most animals would never have had the opportunity to enjoy their brief existence on this planet.
I don't. My judgment can only be so accurate. What he did just do happens to be one of the telltale signs of ASPD. Besides, psychopathy is diagnosed only via veritable symptoms due to the fact that antisocials are pathological liars. I'm confused that you suggest a nexus between the slave trade, Mike Vick's inflated income, and Vick's psychology. Sure, such things might get to your head, as you've posited. But the man's had--what--five years to adjust to professional football life?
No direct connection, it was not meant as an explanation of his actions just trying to get away from the mob mentality that Michael Vick is a terrible person and deserves to be shot. People in this thread are calling him a sociopath for killing some dogs? Every time I go fishing I (hopefully) kill many fish, does that make me a sociopath? They just lay on the land and die a slow death from not being able to breathe, is that worse than what Michael Vick did? In my eyes its similar, though a bit less barbaric as I eat the fish afterwards. LifeLifeFun - I used to play HS football, I can empathize with his situation in that it is a terrible feeling not to be able to play a game that means so much to you. Its not so much my love of sports that I am writing in this thread but my hatred towards the pedestal we put animals on. These types of incidents get blown way out of preportion by the media, I think to draw attention away from an unpopular war. Ive stopped watching the news AND SPORTS for the past week because all I hear about is Michael Vick. Im sure there are more important stories out there.
If he wants to play football than he should play in his backyard. If he plays in the NFL again than one day some crazed fan or the whole god dam crowd is going to rush the field and beat him to death
I sure want him as a neighbor? NOT! A man that forces dogs to fight and then kills the underlings. Such a gladiator for todays society...I am not proud of him are you? This is someone that should receive millions for playing sports...?
Too bad he got caught and he can't play for a matter of months. What happened to the dogs he killed. They can't play at all. No one ever puts animals on pedestal. It's only the pro ball players that live out their lives on pedestals. Those dogs even when they were winning probably didn't get steak or extra special food, but Vick has. He as a human has the ability to make his own decisions and spend his money on what he wants, and he started his own kennel: "Bad News Kennels"...he knew what he was involved with. And I for one don't think he needs any charity. Did he show those dogs any charity?
Maybe you can take the boy out of the ghetto,but can you take the ghetto out of the boy?I have heard that he had a pretty bad up-bringing and of course the hangers -on from the "old" days of a man's youth can keep him in a bad place regardless of ,or maybe because of all the money.He made some bad choices for sure,but in a way,I blame this society for alowing ghettos to exist in the first place.Imagine if all the factories that have moved over seas were re-located to the areas that REALLY needed them--ghettos being#1, with living wage jobs,say 10 to 20 bucks an hour---soon maybe folks could have more pride in themselves,their houses,their neighborhoods and would not have to be so bitter about being left out of the part of society that allow families to eat decently,to have decent housing,to clothe their children properly.I don't know--it's hard to excuse a grown man for what he did---I'm just trying to look at a little bigger picture.I think with happier and more well adjusted parents--parents that have a future of some kind and have plenty of time to love their children--maybe this kind of stuff would become a thing of the past.These kids grow up in places I wouldn't even drive through.It's one of the worst and saddest aspects of capitalism.What to do?
Vick isn't a poor black man, he's a multimillionaire, that felt killing dogs was fine, even fun. If multimillionaires can't respect life, who can. Sorry can't feel sorry for him. Don't play the race card, Vick lost that when he signed on for the multimillions. He's no one's poor boy any more. Shouldn't millions in renumeration demand a certain accountability?
im not a football fan by any means, but if ever were to play again... and come to philly, i would pay to go to the game just to throw shit at him. literally. dog shit!
