Fucking Vegetarians

The guy who actually started this thread has the username 'Peter Popper' . lol.



Michelle

 

Ummm to orignal poster....we don't need to eat meat. Humans could survive off plants. We are only omnivorse cause we choose to be. We are really supposed to be herbavores. Although I am not a vegitarin I don't think that you should give a crap what people eat! I mean its not your body ....what ever you choose to put into your is your choice. And it is everyone elses. I mean man if someone being a vegitarin pisses you off....why don't you look at real world situations that actuall have an impact on how you live.

 

going only on the teeth in all of our mouths... we are supposed to be omni. Molars for grinding grains and other type foods, incisors for tearing flesh and fleshy foods, front teeth for chopping hard cellulose material (ie. fruits and veggies). But, that is just going on the teeth we have.

I eat meat now.. i find its easier with the pregnancy. I am picky about it though, and sometimes have a hard time getting it down. Will go back to being veggie once I am again only responsiable for meeting my dietary needs.

But, I do think its a personal choice. "Judge not lest you be judged" kinda thing. What you put in your body is your choice and is really none of my business. I really hate when veggies judge meaties, and vice versa.

 

Canines. Canines are supposed to be omnivores. We evolved from them, and along that evolutionary path, there was a LONG period of time where we did not eat meat.

This has resulted in: Diminished canine teeth in humans, and difficulty digesting meat.

*Humans* are not meant to eat meat. If we were, our canines would be full, and our stomachs would be different. Further down on the evolutionary scale, way-pre-humans might have been meant to eat meat, but you and I are not.

If everybody thought this way, I think the world might be so perfect it'd get boring. ^_^ Hehe. But it's definitely something to strive for.

 

You know, it's a lot easier to understand someone's argument and to take it seriously when they try and use these crazy little things called spelling and grammar.

For instance, your sentence that begins 'Were animals?'... what does that mean? As in someone/thing was an animal? (we were animals?) Or perhaps werewolfs have started infecting other species?

 

To the Above Poster:

I was going to say the same thing.

To the Original Poster:
Come back and debate with us when you correct your spelling.

And actually, we are NOT meant to have carnivores. We have a VERY long intestinal tract, carnivores have a short intestinal tract because if meat stays in your digestive tract for too long, it will actually rot and make it hard to have a bowel movement. Have you looked at a carnivores teeth? Carnivores teeth are NOTHING like ours...their incisors are extremely sharp and pointy...ours are not.

 

im not the perfect speller. ok.



basically i just dont agree with your views of not eating meat.

i dont beleive in any religoun or god.

were all just animals, and honestly its just the survival of the fittest.

eat or get eaten. its been that way for a longe time now.

its just our "intelligent minds" think out of the box and we can control what we do and dont eat. but for other animals that isnt an option.

were just intelligent animals, no different to any other.

when we die, we are replaced. it doesnt mean much. Our intelligent consciousness makes us feel as if its a terrible thing to loose one of these counsciouss beings. but really, the animals consciousness is minimal compared to ours. But still, human deaths are just the same, it doesnt really mean anything on the 'big' animalistic scale of things.

i sometimes imagine myself as an ape at the computer or watching t.v,

it may sound silly, but were just animals watching tv.

arhh, i dont know if any of this makes sense to you.


were just sun energy in a different form.
sun energy TO Plants THEN Plants TO animals.

but hmmm, thats why we should eat animals, and its no big deal. the animal isnt as smart as you, its counscness is quite limited, what is counsness anyway? does it mean anything? bah

 

I think most vegetarians are more aware of the fact that we are animals than most people are... which is a big part of why I'm vegan, because I feel as if I am not greater or no lesser than any other animal...and because I have the knowledge and resources to avoid eating my fellow earthlings, I do just that.

There are many herbivores in the animal kingdom, so how does going veggie make us any less of an animal? Is a deer any less of a mammal animal because they live off plants? No.

And it's fine if you don't agree, I, like most veggies/vegans, don't care one way or another if we get approval from anyone else. We have to deal with this sort of thing all of the time.

But just because you come to a group of veggies and start spouting out in a rude manner about how we are ridiculous, isn't going to change what we do. In fact, your rudeness probably destroys any point you MAY have had.

But nice try.

 

Humans aren't carnivorous, mate. We're omnivorous, meaning we eat everything. Our bodies are built either to eat meat or not to eat meat. Through most of human history, evidence suggests that meat consumption was proportionally very low. In many cultures, that's still the case. It's really only some of the modern (in the archaeological sense, so developing over the last few hundred years) cultures that have as high a proportion of meat in their diets as you might regard as the norm.

There's nothing wrong with that or the alternative - our bodies can cope with that level of meat consumption, albeit sometimes with a bit of a struggle - and equally, they thrive on a balanced herbivorous diet. Horses for courses - you make your choice and you get on with it. It's really not that big an issue. I certainly wouldn't say it was necessary to launch an attack on people who make a different choice to the one you've made. It seems like a waste of energy, really.

Peace,

CB.

 

animals have a DEEP level of "counsness".........ahem. just because some ppl are too blind to see it does not make it any less real. go do some reading on the inner lives of wild animals.


most animals can do things that we only dream about. they can fly, see and hear a zillion times better than we can. are more agile and quick. stronger and can sense things that we cannot like changes in the weather. we all are equipped with exactly what we need to survive in this world. nothing more nothing less. that certainly does not make us "better". just different. perhaps our arrogence and ignorance (some of us) is what sets us apart the most.

 

First off, everybody stop making fun of his spelling. It's NOT an argument against eating meat, it's just you people thinking that you're clever. It's called an "ad hominem" and it means "there's something objectionable about who you are, so what you say must be invalid" when that is not necessarily true. Address what he says, not how he says it, otherwise you are not doing anything worth reading.

And so you came to our turf to tell us we have psychological problems, right?

How thoughtful of you. Here, why don't you:


Go fuck yourself, buddy. =)

Neither do I. In fact, I see things in the sociobiological stance of morality. Do you know what that is?

The sociobiological stance on morality is: Ethics and morality are products of evolution that are naturally built into us because cooperation results in higher survival rates than competition.

In other words, your dumbass mindset is resulting in less survival for everyone involved (including hundreds of animals per year). No amount of meat that you have available to you is going to guarantee your survival. Your mindset that weaker, less intelligent animals have to be killed, is causing unnecessary death and suffering.

Just because the fittest survive doesn't mean that the unfit have to die.

That is, unless you want to be a tyrant like Hitler, Stalin, or Bush.

If you truly believe that this world is eat or get eaten anymore, then you are out of your mind. What animal is going to eat you if you don't eat it first? Hell they are raised in factory farms, it's not like they are close to being a threat to you, you are just cruel, but worse, you're being stupid, and trying to justify cruelty.

Unnecessary cruelty CANNOT be justified, so stop trying already.

And if we are truly so intelligent, it is time to separate Man from beast, and show compassion.

"Until Man extends his circle of compassion to all living things, Man himself will never know peace."

Glad to know that you value life so much.

Why don't you post on the Nihilism boards, or maybe go kill yourself if you have THAT little hope.

You are just making up bullshit excuses and trying to justify them so that you don't have to try. Which is lame and pathetic. It seriously makes me gag when I realize that you and I are from the same species.

Right. Plants TO animals.

NOT animals TO animals.

There is enough food to go around.

You know, there is a very important reason why the U.S. Constitution defines that "all men are created equal."

You are obviously not the smartest person in the world, and neither am I.

But just because we aren't the smartest, does that mean that we should not be allowed to live? Should dumb people be killed?

The same is true for animals! Just because they aren't smart, do we have the right to breed and slaughter them for our own sick pleasures and tastes?

NO.

Again, all you are saying is "we are superior so we can do whatever the hell we want" but in reality, if we are so damn superior, we should be doing the right thing, not whatever we feel like.

It just shows how much of a slave you are to your own desires -- you are trying to justify your own downfalls. Your ego is as big as you think your cock is, and so you believe that you have some sort of right to go around murdering sentient beings.

You say you are not religious.
But you sound just like one of the knights from the Crusades, who went around slaughtering men, women, and even children in the name of their holy god, simply because those folks don't agree with what you say or because they are helpless to stop you.

 

There's this thing called evolution, for one. I have no problem with people that eat meat.. But because we as humans are constantly evolving we don't need meat and we shouldn't have to eat it if we don't want to.

 

Yes, exactly... I have no problem with people who choose to eat meat, that's fine as long as they leave me alone about my eating habits...

And I agree with Hikaru, on everything, especially with fuck yourself if you're going to tell us we have psychological problems. Nicely put, Josh. As always.

 

(sigh)

What I don't understand is why someone would come to a board clearly labelled for vegetarians, and consciously pick a fight. This is a choice. It is not harming us, and it is not harming you. Why should you care?!?
love,
mom

 

hmmmmmm.......I guess this guy is god? Or maybe no one ever paid attention to him before