This is absolutely ridiculous, to think some people are so backward as to think that their conscience can rule another's life!
You are gay bashing. You are denying them certain rights that others have. That is prejudice and bigotry. That falls under that same category as "I'm not a racist, but... (insert derogatory comment)".
all you have been doing is gay-bashing, dumbass i have read this before, and im sure yer thinking it too, is that all other animals on earth dont have gay sex which means they only fuck to reproduce. that is not true. i have seen both my male dogs try and fuck other male dogs because they were horny.
Like someone else stated before, why would a gay person "choose" to be gay with all the prejudice people in our society today? Oh yea, you're right, Im sure they just absolutely adore all the torment and ridicule some of them face everyday. And how do you know there are more gay people today than in history? You cannot prove that statement at all. Just because society has gotten 'more used to it' so to speak, doesn't mean that there is a significant increase in the number of homosexuals.. Maybe in the number of openly gay people, but that doesn't necassarily mean that there are more in general. There have probably always been gay people around, but I'm sure a long time ago they would have been a complete outcast in society.. which hasn't even completely changed today. And as for your comment about people talking bad about church.... I personally don't talk bad about 'church', it's just the christian fundamentalists who tell everyone else to live by their standards that piss me off. I mean, when it comes right down to it, gay marriage shouldn't even be an issue in the first place. It should be one's own personal choice (and freedom), which doesn't involve the government or anyone else other than the couple. Why do you honestly care so much whether or not they get married? It's none of your business. And that bullshit about gay people not being able to reproduce is no excuse. Who gives a fuck if they can't have kids? I mean seriously, that should have nothing to do with them being able to marry. What do you expect them to do, turn straight and have kids just because they can't marry a person of the same sex? NO.. Either way they will still continue to be gay so that is very irrelevent.. Well, hope that all made sense, if not I can try to clarify.
I am 100% for gay marriage, but I understand what you mean when you say it isn't natural. However, I think people who are gay, should be able to do what feels good to them, even if it isnt naturally right.
This is a very tough subject to discuss. Me and my friend argued over this for hours once. Hypothetically, what if someone had some kind of fetish for killing people? Is killing wrong? We shouldnt be imposing our beliefs on other people. So where is the line drawn for this whole morals thing? It is an endless argument.
The traditional solution to this problem is that personal choice is fine up until the point where it begins to impinge on the personal freedom of others. Whatever consensual sexual practices go on behind closed doors is nobody's business but those involved. Murdering someone on the other hand would be a classic case of invading the personal freedom of another person.
Many Christians who think of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration as "proof." The reason appears obvious: the document mentions God. However, the God in the Declaration does not describe Christianity's God. It describes "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." This nature's view of God agrees with deist philosophy but any attempt to use the Declaration as a support for Christianity will fail for this reason alone
I think there seems to be more gays now as we are more open minded to it now then the old days. Hell they used to burn you at the stake if they even thought you might be a witch what do you think they would have done to someone who was openly gay. There probably has been the same ratio of gays to staright all the time there are just far more out of the closet now then before. People except it more now. However this thread has shown me that people aren't as open minded in regards to sexuality as I thought they where. Love & Sadness EnonEmouse
I think tv is making alot of people think their gay,they praise being gay now...Their the ones shoving that crap in our faces. And why bring up Christians?Were talkin about gay's right?
That is a bunch of horse shit. I don't think one person that watches Will & Grace, or Queer Eye, or anything else along those lines and think ,"hey, being gay is cool, I think I am gay." If I'm not mistaken, the demographics for those two shows in particular are straight women in their 20's. They're aren't "shoving that crap in our faces." Out of all the television shows ever, how many are homosexual related? 3, 4, maybe 5? They aren't praising being gay; they are being proud of WHO THEY ARE, and actually being able to go out in public without being harassed. Which I'm sure still happens. Remember that boy (I don't know his name) maybe Daniel, who was killed for being gay? It's called persecution. for no reason except BEING DIFFERENT. Morning Maniac Music, why do you care so much if two people that you don't know or will ever meet or see in your life get married?? How will it affect your life? Will society as we know it suddenly break down and people start fucking in the streets? I seriously doubt it. Get off your high horse and LET PEOPLE BE WHO THEY ARE. Your avatar has a character smoking a joint. Do you like people telling you how wrong THAT is?
for anyone that says that the bible says being gay is wrong, doesnt it also say love EVERYONE as yourself?
Morning Maniac, You are a fucking retard. Like others have said, all you are doing is gay bashing. You offer no valid points to back up anything you are saying, the only reason you think its "wrong" is because you yourself do not "approve" of it. Why the fuck care what another person does in the bedroom... its fucking stupid. And most people against homosexuality totally miss the point of the gay marriage debate. Marriage is not there for REPRODUCTION, if it were, there would be no argument at all. You idiots do not understand the FINANCIAL benefits of being married. That is why gays, bisexuals, etc want marriage. To deny them it is to deny them a financial advantage that the rest of society enjoys. And you also said something about there being more gays around now than back in the days. That is completely false. Gays are being less rediculed and are feeling more open about their sexuality now than ever before, but that does not mean that it hasnt existed for as long as humans have been on this earth. Homosexuality dates back far as hell... it was common in rome, common all over the world... including the newly founded united states. Religion does shit but pump hatred and offer a crutch for the ignorant... that is why christianity is brought up in a gay-rights debate.. because so many people against giving gays equal rights, or that "gay bash", use their religion as there only means to argue it. eat shit and die, Mui. *kisses*
What about infertile couples? Should they be forced to divorce when one or the other is found to be infertile? What if someone has been sterilized, should they be forced to divorce?
WHAT??? "Butt Sex" does not cause AIDS. HIV causes AIDS. This is what happens when we do away with comprehensive sex ed. We get ignorance.