Gay Marriage

I don't think so. Do you have any reason to think that it would?

 

Egads! Get off these goddamned forums. I'm sick of you. Welcome to my ignore list and I do hope you are banned soon.

 

Well I suppose you've got a point there but what about international adoptions?

 

First, I think it's ludicrous to suggest that the APA is not a politicized institution. Second, my sources are generally well footnoted, but most people here prefer not to bother looking at them.

At the very least, I think that preference should be given to married heterosexual couples. Male-female complementarity is not only a crucial factor in procreation, but in child rearing as well. The statistically high relational instability of homosexuals should also be taken into account.

Also, Brocktoon does have a point about pedophiles. While a majority are heterosexual, a disproportionately high minority are homosexual.

 

hahaha

That is too funny, bet we see that guy come off his sig soon.

If he had any sort of intelligence he would know that there is a huge difference between a gay man and a child molester. A gay man can be a child molester just like a straight man can be. And a man that molests boys is not necessarily gay. But try telling that to someone with as poor logic and thinking ability as Brocktoon....You won't get far.


And Huck, gay people cannot marry, so there is no comparing the statistics of relationships with them between married couples. Straight couples break up all the time, as do half the married couples. When we start recognizing long-term partnerships between gays I doubt you will see any more unstable relationships than you do between straight married couples.

 

Please explain.

There is plenty of data available on the (lack of) longevity and stability characteristic of most homosexual relationships:

http://www.leaderu.com/stonewall/issues/tomschmidt.html

http://www.leaderu.com/marco/marriage/gaymarriage2.html

http://www.leaderu.com/marco/marriage/gaymarriage4.html

 

links aren't working...

 

But what I am saying is that most heterosexual relationships could be considered unstable as well. We cannot compare married couples to ALL gay couples, becuase they don't all consider themselves in long-term relatioships. Right now there is no distinction for long-term partnerships and just dating relationships in the gay community. So looking at all the dating relatinships will make it look unstable because people who are dating around do not behave like married couples.


http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_prof.htm
The American Psychological Association released a Statement on Homosexuality in 1994-JUL.
The research on homosexuality is very clear. Homosexuality is neither mental illness nor moral depravity. It is simply the way a minority of our population expresses human love and sexuality. Study after study documents the mental health of gay men and lesbians. Studies of judgment, stability, reliability, and social and vocational adaptiveness all show that gay men and lesbians function every bit as well as heterosexuals.

http://www.psych.org/public_info/homose~1.cfm

 

I don't know what's wrong with them, but try http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02 instead. (I realize it's from a biased organization, but it's thoroughly documented with endnotes.)

The pathological behavior of homosexuals described in the article above cannot be attributed solely to the legal non-recogntion of gay "marriage." It isn't even remotely comprable to the behavior of unmarried heterosexuals.

The flagrant bias of the APA is undeniable. Fortunately, their stranglehold on dissent is loosening:

http://www.narth.com/menus/born.html

http://www.narth.com/menus/cstudies.html

 

Whatever, Huck, I am sick of this. I'm sorry you don't like the idea of homosexuality, but you are eventually going to have to get over it. I live my life the way I want, and I believe that other people should be afforded the same opportunity I grant for myself.

If this is the asshole you want to be, no one is stopping you. But you and people like you will have to learn that it is not their place to dictate how other people live. You would hate it if you were treated the way you are suggesting we treat homosexuals. In our country there is equal rights under the law making no mention of gender or sexual orientation. Why do you feel the need to opppress people for making lifestyle choices that you yourself would not make? Especially ones that does not harm yourself in any sort of way.


People like you disgust me. Learn some goddamn tolerance, you oppressive piece of shit.

 

Many people here do not seem to remember why 'Homosexuality' was removed from the list of Mental Illness.
It was for reasons of Political pressure.

NOT because Psychiatric Professionals actually did new research and agreed it was healthy.

Little known fact - IF someone wishes to be treated for 'Homosexual behavior' - they can indeed undergo therapy to have it cured.
Remember - this is IF an individual themselves decide to book such an appointment.

As for my question regarding Homosexual child molestation rates:

There are numerous surveys and statistics which indicated Gay Men (as a whole) have about 5 - 6 times the amount of child molesters than Straight Men (again, as a whole)

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27431

If you think that is wrong - then RESPOND TO IT
EXPLAIN WHY

Dont spew hate at me and try and censor any questioning you Nazis!

ANSWER THE QUESTION!

 

Brocktoon, time for you to move into the 21st century. Our knoewldge has come farther than that.

 

I have heard that some gay men want to be straight and their is even som organisations that 'treat' men .. i will have to look it up again..

But anyway Brockton HuckFinn intelectualising why you don't like gays and why you feel it is wrong ... freedom of choice and thats that .. so bollocks to you ..

i agree
no i am not gay but those two just made me sick

 

Ok your on!

Dispense some of this newly aquired knowledge and explain why these studies are flawed or suspect.

I honestly would like to know - thats why I asked the question in the first place.
So far,
I get people like Matthew who offer absolutely NO answer, theory or speculation.
Instead they directly attack the one who simply asks the question.

Inform me Sera!

 

Please explain what you mean by 'Intellectualising why we dont like gays and why we feel its wrong'?

Please explain why I am making you 'Sick'?

Please explain what 'Freedom of Choice' referes to?

Is there a disproportianate rate of child molestation among homosexual men and does this factor into any decision to give male/male relationships the privilage of marriage rights and benefits?

If you dont have a reply and only post insult posts without any purpose other than to insult and 'flame' me - then you might get banned from these forums for flaming/spamming and hindering free speech by 'flooding' the boards.
(preventing discussion)

 

I mean intelectualising because you spent a long time intelectualising Noahs arc and came up with great rationale and all..instead of just saying i believe it to be true and not trying to convince everyone that your right....If your not homophobic in anyway why are you posting crap like what you are posting , what are you actualy trying to say/prove with the studies you post

yep i bet you would love that ... rationalising your point of view with studies is sick..your hiding your beliefs i think. Just debating how your so right for weeks is alright i guess but not with this..

http://thefreedomofchoice.com/

If you dont have a reply and only post insult posts without any purpose other than to insult and 'flame' me - then you might get banned from these forums for flaming/spamming and hindering free speech by 'flooding' the boards.
(preventing discussion)

Not wishing to flame ...but preventing discussion on what your posting is fair i think..why postulate why not just say what you think..

your not the only ones so sorry for being personal..just could see were you might be going and going and going..

 

Do the research yourself. I find it interesting how people like you only look at things from one point of view. Doesn't make for very informed decisions.

There is a plethera of information out there explaining why homosexuality is not a disease or mental disorder, although I can see how many may have mental disroders after putting up with a soclety like ours.

 

Brocktoon,

The closed-mindedness of these self-proclaimed champions of "tolerance" is truly amazing. Reasoned factual debate is regrettably rare here.

 

The closed-mindedness is coming from you. You call my sources bias, but seemto think your's aren't. You refuse to accept any information given that isn't saying homosexuality is wrong in some way. Have you ever done any research of information on homosexuality that was opposed to the movement?

There is no rationalizing with an intolerant asshole like youself just the same as it was for those opposed to women or african-american's rights not long ago.

And the only reason you are inferring that anything Brocktoon has said is rational is because he is on your side of the issue. Any intelligent person can see that the vast majority of Brocktoons posts on this forum have very little logic and rationality to them.

 

why not start a thread all of your own and debate away..about whatever the hell your saying ..

this can be one thread

and another

go knock yourselves out

yes this 'therapy' is done by religous organisations (mostly) for religously inclined gay people that have been told its wrong ...