Get Rid Of Bush!!!

Discussion in 'Protest' started by SeaDragon7, Aug 4, 2004.

  1. Trin

    Trin Member

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    Atlas, hello there, we meet again it seems.

    Please don't label me 'a microcosm of the left', as you have. I'm not a leftist at all really, I'm an Anarchist rather, a post-leftist Anarchist to boot.

    Anyways, it seems to me that Bush is rapidly losing support among his year 2000 base and that things aren't going as well for him as planned. Actually he's very much on the defensive lately.

    As far as me drawing my conclusions before the facts are all present, well that's just my speculations and whatnot which stem from being an observant member of this society. I don't 'really know' what's gonna happen for sure, nobody does.

    However, I think ballot fraud and/or the threat of a terror attack at the polls will ensue and that martial law or an emergency executive powers act are on the agenda of the present administration, just my own thoughts though.

    Trin
     
  2. Hippy Hunter

    Hippy Hunter Banned

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    I sincerely hope you aren't trying to make sense.

    What Bullshit?
     
  3. Jezmund

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    The country will be a LITTLE better off with Bush gone. Thats reason enough to vote for Kerry. I believe the country will be ALOT better off after four years of Kerry. I could be wrong though. Hell thats what the people thought that voted for Bush in 2000. Man were they wrong!
     
  4. Hippy Hunter

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    So your saying that if Gore had won the office nothing bad would have happened?

    We wouldn't have had a downturn in the economy?
    No 9/11?
    No Afghanistan?
    No Iraq?
    No Patriot Act?
    (btw, I don't believe the last three of these things are bad)

    How can you say these things wouldn't have happened? It's likely that Gore would have taken the exact same course of action that Bush did.

    Edit: Yep, a typo. Nobody but Bush has ever had a typo, especially not you.
    Thank You english teacher Newo, I'm sure you've also graduated from Yale as a Graduate student and will someday be elected President....nope didn't think so.
     
  5. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    :eek: You don't think a downturn in the economy or 9/11 were bad?!! Are you Bush's speechwriter? It would explain Bushism's!
     
  6. Hippy Hunter

    Hippy Hunter Banned

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    and thats all you got.
     
  7. Sunflower73

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    Well, of course. It's not like he's the one planning and doing all of that. He's just the puppet. They tell him to say something, he'll say it. It's the people working with him (ahem...Cheney) who are the ones mostly responsible for everything that's gone wrong the past 4 years.
     
  8. MagicMedicine

    MagicMedicine Sailor Scent

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    Hippy Hunter, you are an ass. Go back to the hole you came from and die there. You're such a cynical basterd.

    And you're right. NOBODY likes hippies.
    Or maybe just you, "Hippy Hunter"

    And take out the cheep shots at weed-usage. They get you nowhere. There are people a million times brighter than you that consider it a daily snack. If you want to start an anti-weed post, you're more than welcome to. I'll be looking forward to it. Dick.

    And by the way. Give up the politics.
     
  9. bluegill

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    i personally feel that bush is just making bad decisions and is too stubborn to say he fucked up.....i mean in his own neo-con mind, all that he is doing is good, and he finds his own reasons for making them seem good....and his ideas are backed up by his inner circle's own ambitions, who realize that this idiot actually see's good in what he is doing, and as long as he is making the call's he will be the one who ultimately goes down for it.....my thoughts anyway....i personally feel like kerry has more sensible solutions for problems like terrorism, and the tax issue....i mean, if i made over 200k a year, would it really hurt me to have a couple thousand more took outta my yrly income....i don't think it would....and tax incentives for keeping work inside the US......doin some james bond shit on the terrorists as opposed to sending in armies.....i am pro-choice so that's a given too.....i mean his base just makes more sense to me, alot more than cutting taxes on everybody while spending trillions while having multiple wars where our troops have no clue as to who the enemy is, at the same time being criticized and protested against by the rest of the world...??????....i mean that shit ain't cool....IMO
     
  10. losers

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    Spoken like a true hippy (Nazi, can't remember which, oh well they're the same)!

    A million times brighter than me huh, obvioulsy you aren't talking about yourself.

    "Give up the politics" - sure buddy, when you move to China.

    I'm right though, nobody likes hippies! Especially not you.

    Hippy Hunter
     
  11. losers

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    If you earned that 200K you wouldn't think so. What right do you have to tell those people how to spend their money?
     
  12. Jezmund

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    Bluegill, you couldn't have said it better except Bush isn't going after the terrorists anymore.

    Give it up man(hippy hunter). Your not going to pursuade anyone to vote the way you want them to. Especially with your snotty one line questions and comments. Youre not smart enough. Your not going to be able to make any valid points either. You haven't yet. Give us solid numbers, dates, statistics to back up your statements or maybe you should just find a conservative forum where atleast most of the people agree with you.

    Bush is one of the most hated presidents in American history. He has been able to turn out some of the largest protests ever. So why so many protesters? They are there for a reason. He's gotta be doing something wrong.
     
  13. Jezmund

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    Just let me know a few things he has actually done right
     
  14. MagicMedicine

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    You're right, he has to be the most hated. We have had some large protests indeed. And did you check out that RNC protest in NY? Er, I mean one of the protests. They had a few up there. Thousands of people each.
    I do not believe that Kerry will be the best thing ever, and he won't be. But I believe he will win because people want change, and it's obviously not going to happen with Bush in office. Some may argue that he was a good president and did what is neccesary, and they have their rights to their own opinion. But I still don't think Bush will win.
     
  15. dhs

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    See unfortunately, I do feel he'll win. The moderates are concerned about Kerry being someone who flip flops on the issue.


    I just want Bush out. I want him to me made an example that the american people will not tolerate such reckless leadership.
     
  16. Salmon_we_is_the_act

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    If you'd payed attention you'd realize that I don't need to post numbers. I don't really care to post them either, they are too easy to manipulate.

    My questions and comments are brief and to the point. If you have trouble answering a one line question then why would I make you try to answer a two liner?

    *whine* "Snotty"

    You, like every hippy I've ever known, doesn't like to confronted about you ignorant beliefs. You should open your mind.

    Who cares what the protesters do. The media has turned on Bush like a rabid dog, these people are obviously puppets of the media; so it doesn't really matter what they do.

    You know what he's doing wrong? He's fighting the war we need to fight in order to rid the world of extremists. Sometimes doing the right things isn't popular. The fact that Bush and Blair would risk their political careers to pursue the right path suggests that what they are doing is right. So what if the biggest construction company in the US got one of the largest reconstructon contract in history? Maybe they should have hired your company, maybe france. Maybe they could have used Bin Laden's fathers construction company, would you be happy then? Who could they have hired that you wouldn't have thrown a fit? (I know the question is one line, and I don't care)
     
  17. Salmon_we_is_the_act

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    Lets try a little game. Why don't you name something hes done right. It isn't possible that he screwed up 100% of all things. He had to do one thing right, one thing that you agreed with him on. What is it?

    FYI: Nobody names something. Thats the point. I want them to demonstrate how bias and ignorant they really are.
     
  18. Bacchus

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    He raised one sexy little daughter.
     
  19. MagicMedicine

    MagicMedicine Sailor Scent

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    Alright you stupid fuck. I'm really getting sick of you popping up. You make it a point to argue about everything.

    You have you own ignorant beliefs, thats great.

    And now you're going to turn around and say everyone who shows up at a protest is a "puppet of the media"?
    So now I'm a fucking puppet of the media??
    OOOOh buddy, how blissfully ignorant you are.

    And sure, he's fighting a war that needs to be fought, BUT, the way he's carrying out his little war is what I'm against. And ignoring the UN? Shit, it's not like it's there for no reason. Do you even know what's going on in the world? Obviously not, "puppet". FBI says its been spinning its wheels trying to make any advance in this "war on terrorism". The Bush administration has been putting out "terror alerts" based on almost nothing. Snippets of information here and there.

    How does it look to invade a country saying that "they're harvesting weapons of mass destruction", then go there, fuck everything up, and not find any? Dude, we're the laughing stock of the fucking world. We made stupid actions based on theory. There was no solid proof to back up that war. There was no solid proof to be spending billions of dollars over there, while we still have jobless, homeless, not enough teachers, not enough police, not enough firefighters, nurse shortages and all of that here at home.

    That is why I'm not voting for bush. If you don't agree with any of this, at least read this.
    http://www.costofwar.com/

    And those are not random numbers, before you post another ignorant thread.
    "Currently, the Cost of War calculator is set to reach $135 billion on September 30, 2004. This is the lowest estimate of what Congress has appropriated for the war in Iraq in two supplemental appropriations."
     
  20. Jezmund

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    "If you'd payed attention you'd realize that I don't need to post numbers. I don't really care to post them either, they are too easy to manipulate."

    Numbers are solid. If one manipulates a statistic one can easily do the research to discover the actual validity of the statistic. Numbers do not lie!

    "My questions and comments are brief and to the point. If you have trouble answering a one line question then why would I make you try to answer a two liner?"

    Very clever :rolleyes: Anyways I have noticed that you are often bombarded with numbers/statistics/facts by many posters and you retaliate with clever comments or curveballs/hypothetical questions. Tell me how is this a good defense against hard evidence? Also I have never seen you address an entire post full of facts against the Bush administration. You usually only address one statement in a good post but not before twisting the words around a little bit.

    "You, like every hippy I've ever known, doesn't like to confronted about you ignorant beliefs. You should open your mind."

    I am very open minded. I like to be confronted about my beliefs. It helps me learn more about the other side and my own side. But in arguments with you I'm not learning anything because you dont give me any numbers/statistics/facts. All I get from you is pure rhetoric. We "hippies" if thats what you want to call us crave information. We want solid information and historical evidence. Obviously I also like to defend my beliefs.

    "Who cares what the protesters do. The media has turned on Bush like a rabid dog, these people are obviously puppets of the media; so it doesn't really matter what they do."

    Naturally the left-wing media has turned against Bush. But I think it is quite safe to say that the 24 hour news networks (Fox and CNN) have not. These two networks by the way are where most Americans get their news. Actually when you think about it the left-wing media really hasn't turned on Bush. If the president makes alot of stupid mistakes isn't it the media's job to let the people know? They're just telling the truth. And thats why you have some of the largest protests in history. Naturally

    "You know what he's doing wrong? He's fighting the war we need to fight in order to rid the world of extremists. Sometimes doing the right things isn't popular. The fact that Bush and Blair would risk their political careers to pursue the right path suggests that what they are doing is right."

    Bush himself is an extremist. Many members of his administration are extremists. Just not Muslim extremists. Also they are money hungry extremists that are getting filthy rich off this war. I dont care too much to explain it to you again. And Blair just wants to have some of that good old American dollar. He was with everything Clinton did and it's the same way with Bush. Most of the time doing the wrong thing isn't very popular. And your last sentence is the funniest thing I've heard all day. thanks.

    "So what if the biggest construction company in the US got one of the largest reconstructon contract in history? Maybe they should have hired your company, maybe france. Maybe they could have used Bin Laden's fathers construction company, would you be happy then? Who could they have hired that you wouldn't have thrown a fit?"

    Halliburton has the majority if not all the reconstruction contracts in Iraq. What about some other American companies, or European companies, or IRAQI COMPANIES! Seriously! Why do they let a single company rebuild an entire country? I'll tell you why- because after Dick Cheney is done in the White House he is gonna head straight back to Halliburton headquarters TO COUNT THE BILLIONS!!! Naturally ;)
     

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