glutens bad for you?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Deranged, Apr 9, 2014.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's insane. The only reason a person would be able to eat 8-12 servings of bread, cereal, grains, etc. is because those foods keep a person hungry all the time, since they spike the blood sugar, only for it to come crashing down an hour or two later. So when you eat those kinds of foods you just keep eating and eating and eating and are never satisfied. It definitely works to the benefit of the food companies who churn out all this processed garbage. "Keep the people hungry and addicted to our junk."
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    The FDA's food pyramid is what you would follow if you want to be guaranteed poor health and chronic low energy.
     
  3. katkin

    katkin Member

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    It's so frustrating how expensive it is to eat healthy a lot of the time, for example gluten-free foods. Mind you, they don't taste great so perhaps cut them out all together...
     
  4. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    actually the healthiest diet is the most diverse one. this doesn't have to be prohibatively expensive. but it is healthier generally, to eat as much as you can of what you grow yourself organically. which is not to deny there are things it is good to avoid, but i still think in general, you gain more by eating more diversely, then by trying to keep up with what is the latest thing to try and avoid.

    in today's political climate, you can't really trust anything to mean what it sounds like it does.
     
  5. Deranged

    Deranged Senor Member

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    Lets all just agree that doctors know jack about medicine, dietitians know nothing about nutrition, engineers know nothing about engineering, pharmacists know nothing about drugs. Because that just makes sense
     
  6. katkin

    katkin Member

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    Well, obviously they knew enough to pass their exams...
     
  7. RandomVegan

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    I don't make claims for anyone else, every body works different. For me, gluten free stopped my migraines, improved overall health and I now have fewer meltdowns. Since it helps me I do it.
     
  8. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    and they will agree with the hipster BS.
     
  9. Deranged

    Deranged Senor Member

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    Already asked a dietitian/nutrition prof. I had no opinion on glutens til i asked her. she said pretty much exactly what the webmd site says

    When gaining knowledge its best to consider a reliable source like an actual expert or a reputable site like webmd.

    I bet everyone here thinks immunizing people is unhealthy too... bunch of bs

    Its a shame how much a lot of people are a sponge for misinformation
     
  10. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I don't think people get fat of bread ;) Unless you mean donuts and similar messed up bread products (including certain pastas)? Of course if you eat enough bread with enough fattening substances on it that could make you fat.
     
  11. AmericanTerrorist

    AmericanTerrorist Bliss

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    Okay, yea, you're right. I actually did mean to say mono not poly and in any case, yes, I agree about the coconut oil and about saturated fats not being nearly as unhealthy (if from grass fed beef) as it has been made out to be. I may not be as sure as you that's it's exactly healthy but I also don't think it's unhealthy either....
    In any case, my main point was that, esp. in the past fats were given a bad rep and not differentiated enough between what types. I think sugar is MUCH more (okay, don't think...know) an issue than any type of fat and of course, carbs turn into sugar...
     
  12. AmericanTerrorist

    AmericanTerrorist Bliss

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    True and esp. though if you buy specially "gluten-free" products all the time.

    If you just concentrate on whole foods... you can find great deals if you know where to look. Farmer's markets, public-city markets, co-ops, etc.
     
  13. AmericanTerrorist

    AmericanTerrorist Bliss

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    I actually think not everything should avoid gluten all the time.

    My body does better when I consume fresh, organic vegtables, minimal amounts of fruit daily-usually berries, lean proteins and healthy fats such as (cold) olive oil, coconut oil, nuts and avocadoes. That is how and when I am healthiest and btw, you'd be hard pressed to find a doctor that will tell me that that is NOT a healthy diet... avoiding sugars and such.

    Also, I do not think all immunizations are bad. I personally feel an alternative schedule for children's vaccine's has less risk... and that usually, for most families, the hep b vaccine at birth can be waited on for quite a few years.... I also believe in seeking out mercury-free vaccinations but in any case, I am not extremist on all issues of vaccines.

    So, yea, keep stereotyping.

    And btw, of course doctors know a lot about...medical issues like if something already goes wrong w someone's body-a disease, infection, whatever. Yea, go to a doctor to fix it. But in GENERAL doctors are NOT great on prevention and keeping healthy. They are great at treating ILLNESSES... they want to prescribe pharmaceuticals... they do not usually have interest in healing a person or keeping a person healthy by using food as medicine. And in those instances you are better off keeping yourself healthy by what you put in your body and going to a doctor when something ACTUALLY breaks down.... knowing that you can often heal yourself with alternative means at home first (every doctor knows that for high blood pressure for instance, you can lose weight, exercise, stop smoking and eat healthy foods and also they all know about fish/krill oils as helping that issue)... often pharmaceuticals have side effects that are rough on the body and if you can go the route, for an issue like high blood pressure that I mentioned, you are often better off doing that first. Doctors, although, yes, if I need surgery, I will go to a doctor. When I have my child in 4.5 months, I will have a doctor available for the delivery... but in general, doctors are trained to prescribe medicine and medication is often not the best option.
     
  14. Deranged

    Deranged Senor Member

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    Even if its stereotyping, is it wrong to say people that think gluten is bad are generally in the same crowd as people who think shots give people autism and shit?
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    And a reliable source is whatever you deem a reliable source to be?
     
  16. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Bread is one of the most fattening foods a person can eat with or without added fat. When you eat refined carbs like bread, they immediately convert to glucose, which spikes the blood sugar, which then causes an insulin response, which then causes that excess glucose to be drawn into the cells and stored as fat. Bread is extremely high on the glycemic index. Yes, bread can make a person fat. I am not saying it will, but it can and does in a lot of people who are metabolically predisposed to obesity. Bread is more of a culprit in causing obesity than what is commonly believed to be (meat, butter, etc.)
     
  17. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    ^^^ That is really not a fair statement to make as we all feel the sources we use are reputable or we would not. :)

    I think there are those who are very sensitive to gluten and a diet free of that does change their life and health.

    To reduce the amount of gluten in most peoples diet is probably a good idea if you are getting the gluten from processed foods and white flour.

    I do think for most people without health issues or intolerances that variety is the key to being healthy.
     
  18. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Saturated fat is not only harmless, but good for you. If it wasn't, I wouldn't consume upwards of 70% of my calories from fat. It isn't until you add high-glycemic carbs to the mix that fat becomes an issue. If you eat a low-carb diet, you can eat an unlimited quantity of fat and not suffer any adverse effects.
     
  19. AmericanTerrorist

    AmericanTerrorist Bliss

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    Yes, it is wrong because they are totally separate things. Some of them may be the same, some are not.

    Some people think gluten is "bad" because they have an allergy. Some people have found cutting it out or reducing it has helped them w inflammatory illnesses (btw, heart disease is a later stage inflammatory illness) and w losing weight/keeping weight off, etc.

    And some people... are just trendy and follow fads and don't know why they're doing it. I'm not concerned with those people. I don't really care what they think or why... trendy people who follow fads because they are trendy are a bit annoying- if you allow yourself to be annoyed.

    But anyways, yes, to group everyone who has eliminated all or some gluten in their diets into a group who is anti-vaccine is wrong.
     
  20. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    I really don't think WebMD is a trustworthy source. I've gotten some very bad information there.

    Why don't you just try several different diets and find the one that works for you? Studies that have "proven" that Gluten is bad or good use a LOT of participants, and gluten is never good or bad for all of them, only the majority.

    No need to lump a bunch of people into the same category and dismiss them. You are the only person you need to worry about. Have you tried cutting gluten from your diet? You could probably talk to 100 different dieticians and not all of them would agree on what is best. Just do you.
     
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