Go Get Em Saddam

god, will it ever end? We treated the Native Americans like shit. Does that mean we can never criticize anyone else for doing something wrong?

I cant take anyone who defends saddam seriously.

 

I excused nothing.
My point is that saddam is no worse than us.
And we're seeing that he was the one who held Iraq togther, and stabilized the middle east.

 

You could but you'd be wrong.
Have you read about the latest U.S. puppet regime-run torture prison?

 

Did you or did you not read about the latest U.S. puppet regime-run torture prison?

Why is it bad when saddam tortures Iraqi's but not bad when we or our minions do it?

 

This is a false equivalency - if you can find any abuse in Iraq, then that proves Iraq is no better off that under Saddam? No, it doesn't follow. Maybe you need to do some more reading on Saddam if you think that the interior ministry prison, or Abu Ghraib, were anything like what was happening under Saddam. And try to keep in mind that Iraqis thought their election was legitimate enough that they risked their lives to vote in it - the fact that anti war leftists sit comfortably on their sofa abroad wearing Che Geuvara t-shirts calling it a "puppet regime" is not of much interest to anyone.

I don't remember the US or the democratically elected Iraqi government saying that the torture was not bad. Remember, this story came to light because US troops revealed the torture. The Iraqi government has spoken out against it and is investigating. Saddam would have been handing out promotions.

Look at this exchange between General Pace and Donald Rumsfeld.

Pace directly contradicts Rumsfeld in the middle of a press conference to say the US troops MUST intervene to stop inhumane treatment.

 

Pot Kettle Black, gilly.

 

Oh, Ive read your posts Gil, just cant be bothered to post more than the occasional retort to you given that you, PB, Ina and a few others are essentially interchangeable for your regular denials, surface analyses and general ill-informed drivel.

Those that would ignore our own national duplicity and illegalities are about the deafest, most self-congratulatory lot on the net.

 

"I don't remember the US or the democratically elected Iraqi government saying that the torture was not bad."
I guess that's why the white house has been fighting tooth and nail to derail McCain's anti-torture amendment.
I guess that's why former bushco att'y Gonzales opined that the Geneva convention's prohibition of torture did not apply to babybush. You might remember he was rewarded for that decision by being made att'y gen. of the U.S.

The election is a joke as long as the U.S. gets to pick and choose who gets to run, and as long as the Iraqi people are under the iron boot of foreign occupation.

The former head of Abu Gharib prison, where the torture conducted by saddam was one of the cornerstones of bushco's rational for invasion and mass killing and was continued by the U.S., said that the prisoner's LOVED Abu Gharib, loved it so much they didn't want to leave.

So the army wants to have all cases of prisoner abuse exposed? That must be why rummy, as soon as the pictures of abuse at Abu Grahib surfaced, responed by prohibiting the use of camera phones and pictures of any kind being taken there.

 

70 shipments of anthrax, botulism, and West Nile virus from the U.S. to various government agencies in Iraq in the 80s. Who in their right mind would be giving those types of materials to any group in Iraq right in the heat of the Iran-Iraq war.

http://foi.missouri.edu/terrorbkgd/following.html

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yea, i mean a few people who tried to kill him. more like 10,000 shiites. but i'm sure if that was attempted with bush with the same outcome, you would be rooting for bush.