God and Satan would be on the same side then... wouldnt they?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by soulrebel51, Nov 10, 2005.

  1. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    I believe the real false prophet is the one who sold you that bill of goods.

    1 Thessalonians 4:16,17
    16. For the Lord himself, with a word of command, with the voice of an archangel and with the trump of God, will come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
    17. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Thus we shall always be with the Lord.

    This day is not far off.
     
  2. batmannu

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    I dont know about the bible and i prolly will not know it in the future as well.. never been to sunday class as well, couse im way too busy for that and all the jehova pals have frightened me with their kinda pushing acting.. and well i guess im into science.. and technology.. prolly this is the reason why i cant accept the bible like this. I know several people who believe in god.. and sometimes they are into "telling you into it" well.. i think believing in god is persons own thing and it shouldnt be pushing.. couse well as someone is forcing you to do something, will you do it as you have chanche to not do it.. ?
    i guess no, this is why i love the nature and it creations.. the bible and what it has been saying about things.. well some people who are into bible and kinda sometimes pretesting about it have good points.. can you fight against science with bible? No.. against developement? No... can you fight against love and pure wisdom, soul? no..
    how can you explain into witchcraft people and why the bible has forced another people to burn them alive?
    Why things like this happends that history is showing us now? and why does bible force human beings urting another? why is bible being forced to human race? Why?

    Too many times why.. and i bet you cant answer them only by bible..
    Im sorry to tell you but I guess some of us will never turn into it ..
     
  3. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Hi Batman!!! xoxox

    You need to eat some vegetables before you get your dessert. Otherwise you will be unhealthy.
     
  4. FreakerSoup

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    Yes. Punishment is to teach a lesson to steer future behavior in the desired (hopefully right) direction. Hell leaves no place for future behavior because it is forever. Regardless of how much the person in hell desires to act right and stop the "punishment," it doesn't stop. I don't believe in that god.
     
  5. IC3

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    Of course god and the devil are the same. all you need is a bit of common sense to figure it out.

    1. the tree of knowledge

    god told adam and eve not to eat from this tree, that eating from it they would know good and evil. this was supposed to be GODS tree.

    I dont really believe in christianity it just doesn't make any logical sense.
     
  6. campbell34

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    A long time ago some people who CLAIMED to be Christians, murdered a number of woman and called them witches. Before that, and many years since then, Christians have been helping millions of people all over the earth. Many have given up there lives and have been murdered by the very same people they were trying to help. Yet for some people, when you speak of Christians, the only thing they can point to, are the woman murdered by people who CLAIMED to be Christian back some three hundred years ago. Why is that?
    Nobody is forcing anyone to be a Christian. You can only be a Christian if you freely give your life to Christ. Christians are telling people about Christ because we know that His return to the world is coming soon. The prophecies of the Bible are being fulfilled very quickly now. One of the signs of Christ return, is the return of the Jews to the land of Israel, and their recapture of Jerusalem. Also the sealing of the porch of Jerusalems East Gate. It's almost like this big stage production is about to start, and all the props an actors are being assembled. If you have a program, then you can understand what is happening. Jesus Christ, is not just some old historical figure. He truly was the living God, that this world nailed to a cross. The Bible talks about an astroid that will strike the sea and sink a third of the ships in the sea. Now if you recall in science, astroids were discovered about 200 years ago, yet the Bible speaks about them 1800 years ago. How could the Bible speak about Astroids,
    when no one knew they existed for at least another 1600 years? Gods third day is coming very soon. And this is one day you don't want to miss. Think of the best day of your life, multiply it by ten million, and that will give you an idea of how good this day is going to be.

    1 Thessalonians 4:16,17
    16. For the Lord himself, with a word of command, with the voice of an archangle and with the trumpet of God, will come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
    17. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Thus we shall always be with the Lord.
     
  7. campbell34

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    Well some would say the prophecies of the Bible are not logical either, yet the Jews have returned to Israel, they have recaptured Jerusalem, and Jerusalems East Gate remains sealed. All of this was predicted by the Bible. How is it, that a Book that is not logical, predicts the future perfectly? And these prophecies are just the tip of the iceberg.
     
  8. batmannu

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    Lol I think unhealthy batmannu is better than no batmannu at all, right? :pkidding, huggies to ya khrakov :)
     
  9. batmannu

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    I know there are proves that Jesus was living once.. but there is no proves that he was living god. (I will edit this stuff here later on, but now i gotta run away, things need to be done)

    Edition: Im sorry i dont want to give my life to christ.. it sounds like selling yer soul to devil..


     
  10. god doesn't condemn us to hell, we condemn ourselves......



    if you steal from your job is it your boss who got you fired?

    no it's you, you knew the rules and broke them anyhow, it's all about acountability.....
     
  11. campbell34

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    Christians know that Jesus was the living God because He was the man that was spoken of in the Old Testament. In that Book you will find 300 prophecies. Now that Book was finished 400 years before Jesus Christ was born. Yet, Jesus Christ was the only person in history to of fulfilled all three hundred of it's prophecies. And there was only a small window of time for those prophecies to be fulfilled. Today the Bible and it's prophecies are still coming to pass even though the world turns a blind eye to them. We are living in the last days, and the Jews return to Israel, is just one of the signs of Christ return.
     
  12. batmannu

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    JESUS CANT BE GOD, COUSE JESUS IS his child.. so here comes the conflict.. how can you be father and son at the same time in one person? Will all the dead people jump out from graves - body disapears in approximately 50 years.. (nowadays is longer period, couse the preservatives we eat).. so it can be only mental.. and mentally you can jump from one time to another as well..
    Maby the bible is explaining to you how all the other shamans heal human beings?
    How can you be so blind and believe in the bible, dont you think it is brainwshing you?
     
  13. batmannu

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    Tho I understand what you think and I respect it, but there is now way im gonna turn into it.. I know very well how to be good enough.. and i understand the difference between good and bad very well too..
    I believe that as yer strong enough mentaly, then you can manage without anything else than YOU!
     
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    God does not exist as just one person. That is why in the first Book of the Bible when God created man He said, ''let US create man in OUR image.''

    In the New Testament it states there three that bare record in heaven, the Father, the Word (JESUS), and the Holy Ghost and these three are one.

    There is a physical body which can be destroyed, but kind of like a back up disk the body has a soul which stays with the body at death. The soul can duplicate the body, and you have the Spirit, which is the real you. At the end of time, these will be rejoined during the resurrection.

    The Bible can't brainwash anyone, it really comes down to is it true. The prophecies are true, and in recent years that have discovered that a number of the Bible stories must also of been true. When the Children of Israel crossed through the Red Sea God parted the waters. Not many people believed that, but just in the last few years divers discovered the spot where that took place, and an area 3 miles by 9 miles at the bottom of the Red Sea they are finding the remnants of Pharoahs army. They have also found large granit pilliars marking the spot, it is believed they were put there by Solomon's workmen. They are finding coral incrusted bones and chariot parts all along the bottom. And they are finding extra Biblical stories of the event carved in stone in the same area. You might want to check out these web sites.

    http://english.sdaglobal.org/evangelism/arch/redsea.htm
    http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/redsea.html
    http://www.bibleplus.org/discoveries/redsea.htm
    http://www.bibleprobe.com/exodus.htm
     
  15. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    its not as though God had sex with Mary to impregnate her.
     
  16. batmannu

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    there is nuthing written about having sex.. sex has always been and done "behing closed windows" and the abortation and everything goes against my mind, Why its not allowed as yer doing things according to the bible..
    Suicidal people were buried outside the church garden.. tho we all know that for samurai people it is honor to die through harakiri..
    But I do admit, that believing in something is helping people who are feeling weak or who have been living in it whole life and who are not into protesting mode..
    PS! I dont wanna prove a thing over here, i guess it is just Estonian way of understanding things, I know that we usually dont visit churches and we are kinda believing it inside of us - if we do..
     
  17. JesusDiedForU

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    God is called the father of Jesus but in fact they are the same. I believe they are called what they are called based on the trinity-the father and the son.

    It has nothing to do with a physical father and son be a spiritual one. Understand the trinity. The father, the son, and the holy spirit all are different but make up one. Jesus had been around forever but his purpose was:

    To be the image of God, live a life on earth, and to die for all sins. What kind of God is so humble that he would die for his people an embarrassing death?
     
  18. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    They are only "the same" in that all of Jesus's actions were planned out by God (as are everybodies- this is why God knows what will happen in the future- God planned stuff to happen a certain way). That means all of "Your" actions are the actions of God (what God intends for you). Which makes you and God "One" (in the spiritual sense).
    That's just silly. God never died.
     
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    We have free will. We choose to obey God or not.


    God did die and rose from the grave to show that He is the truth God by conquering death. Jesus died a humble death and rose again for all who accept Him and His ways.
     
  20. batmannu

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    well i guess everyone is taking it as its best to yer mind, right?
    Lutherans and catholics are different..
    I like protestants more tho.. couse they seem to be more realistic ..
     
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