God and Satan would be on the same side then... wouldnt they?

We do not have free will. We sense whether God's actions are pleasing to us or not. All action is God's, including the creation of unpleasant thoughts which we would not want to become reality (such as, Do I want to hit my girlfriend or have sex with a nun?). Sometimes we are displeased by a thought when it arises and do not want God to carry out the action the thought describes, sometimes we are displeased by an action that God does (such as causing a fight with a friend).

When God causes unpleasant thoughts to arise in us, we do not want God to carry them out. When God does not carry out the unpleasant action of the thought, some think it is because of their own will (they are wrong). Those who know God know that God has chosen not to do the action because of God's own reasons (which you may or may not know).

Sometimes God causes the thought of eating chocolate or strawberry ice cream to arise within us. 2 pleasant thoughts. God makes one thought more appealing and gives us the kind of ice cream that God would like us to eat.

There are many examples of God's behaviors. Part of God's agenda is for you to know that God is in control, that you are helpless in God's hands.

Ok. You are super silly. God doesn't have to conquer death. God is not under sway of death or mortality. God created death. It is simply something that God does (kill stuff). When God wants something to die, it dies. When God wants something to live, it lives. OF course, in this world, it doesn't look like God wants a lot of evidence of eternal life (not too many resurrections going on around here, ya know?). It would interfere with the human drama that is unfolding (if people were resurrected in beautiful angelic bodies every time they died, who would feel emotional when a relative "dies").

 

khrakov sounds goood to me

 

What you believe is not in accordance to the Bible. So where do you get your beliefs from?

 

False metaphor.

 

I believe that the Jews believe that Satan isnt the evil opposite of god, but rather a faithful employee, who tests gods people.

 

Once again I rebuke you:

Jeremiah 10:23-24
O LORD, I know the way of man is not in himself;
It is not in man who walks to direct his own steps.
O LORD, correct me, but with justice;

The Lord corrects the paths of mens hearts (their intent) by dictating their steps.

Proverbs 16:9
A man’s heart plans his way,
But the LORD directs his steps.

God, the same as you. I have been given a much greater amount of discipline (suffering at the hands of the Lord) then you have, so I have greater wisdom. At first, it takes much discipline to correct ones path. After a while, one learns to pay close attention to the discipline to learn what God intends us to learn from the discipline God gives us. We crave to know what is right so that we do not have to feel the pain of discipline again.

Jesus's crucifixion was an act of discipline, from God. Discipline is good for Jesus and it is good for us. It teaches us that we are in God's power at all times.

 

God created Satan for the same purpose he created Judas Iscariot, etc.

 

Okay, do you believe that Jesus is God and that Jesus died and rose again. That He will come back in the flesh and the only way to heaven is through acceptance of Jesus Christ.

 

"God doesn't have to conquer death."

That statement alone disagrees with the Bible. God did conquer death so that those who believe in Him would have everlasting life.

 

Christians are so funny =)

 

just because you say it doesn't mean it's true....


I could say I can fly and it still doesn't happen.....

 

it does, if yer sitting in airplane.. right? or christians dont do it?

 

No, Jesus is not God. Jesus is Gods child. The difference is he was elevated as an example of the ideal child of God- one who is granted special stuff because he understands God's intent (even if he didn't look forward to everything that God planned for him- such as the crucifixion- "Father, why have you forsaken me" or "Father, please take this cup from me, but your will, not my will").

Of course you should be accepting of your brother. This is the right way to be. Anyone who does not accept their brothers has no place in heaven.

The whole coming back in the flesh thing strikes me as true. Dunno if it is the exact same flesh as before (new body, upgrade... if you know what I mean).

 

there is no proofs about god being on the ground and walking around.. there are proof Jesus has been walking on the ground.. right? Why you keep talking the same thing, we know that according to the belief the system yer believing in is different..
protestants and the ones who are NOT protestants..
Live yer life pals!

 

So you do not believe the trinity...

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Why does God say let US make man in OUR image?

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one (1 John 5:7).

-The Bible states that Jesus, the father and the Holy spirit are one. What you say contradicts the Bible. If you would like me to explain why Jesus says:
"Father, why have you forsaken me" or "Father, please take this cup from me, but your will, not my will" I will explain it.

 

Not your interpretation of it. It's a communication error.

Because God is cool.

It does not contradict the Bible. The truth is that being one with God is not being God, it is perceiving every action as orchestrated and caused by God (even your own, down to your last thought (word that exists within you) and feeling (spirit that exists within you)). The Father (God) moves us (the word- my thought; the spirit- what I feel) as one.

There are three witnesses. God (the father), the word (my thoughts), and the spirit (what I feel). God is above me, molds the word (me) and the spirit (me).

No thanks.

 

Why does God say let US make man in OUR image?

-Can't explain that one can ya...



How about this one... Who created the world?

 

WTF, why does there have to be a who? That's what I don't get. Just because we are sentient beings doesn't mean that everything that creates is. The idea, to me, just shows how egotistical humans are. Why assume a who? "How?" seems like a smarter question. There is always a how (something always happens somehow), but not always a who.

 

Would you like me to tell you why it's a false metaphor?

Stealing goes against a basic moral principle. You can go to hell for as little as believing the wrong thing, which isn't a moral thing at all. You don't believe what you do because it's morally right. You just believe it.

The rules are there, and you know you risk getting fired for breaking them. All you're given to guide your behavior for christianity is the Bible. You have no proof of truth in those words, no idea why it's wrong to masturbate. Your boss is sitting in his office. If you have a question about the rules, you can ask the guy. God? Where's he? Communication with god is only recorded in the "experiences" of people who need something to believe in just that strongly. Did you know that there's a specific part of the brain geared for religious experiences? That's why many epileptics report having them.

Anyhoo, false metaphor 'cause belief isn't a question of morality, and 'cause god isn't around to clarify "his" rules. I suppose that does make it a question of accountability.

 

actually you can't go to hell just on the merits of believing the wrong thing, you are only held responsible for what you know.....


you're given no proof of the truth of a moral code other than your gut feeling and those of the people around you, mine is a legitimate metaphore, your refutation and the "logic" therin is dreadfully flawed.....