god doesn't want us to believe in god

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Emanresu, Jul 2, 2011.

  1. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    what means the phrase beggar no belief ?
     
  2. Dejavu

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    The means you give it. But I meant the opposite of beggars belief.

    Asmodean:
    I don't know how you could possibly know that!
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I just go by the definitions of knowing and believing. There's a subtile difference you probably are aware of.
     
  4. Dejavu

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    Sotell enough not to make a difference concerning 'God'?
     
  5. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    most everyone believes in knowing
    some fact about the nothing since there's
    nothing to know .
     
  6. thedope

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    being shared
     
  7. spexxx

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    Bodies are all destined to disintegrate in time, I don't see why people believe we will still exist in a form if the form that holds us here today will disintegrate into dust. I don't know if dust has much reasoning.

    God isn't much more than a word. We impose order on a seemingly chaotic nature, and when a hurricane strikes, suddenly it's tragic because nature destroyed the things we built over a piece of nature we at one point destroyed, in aims to build the things that make us feel like life has 'order' and 'purpose'. So why not have a God too while we're at it? Anything to relieve existential anxiety, right?
     
  8. Dejavu

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    tikoo:
    The what?!

    spexxx:
    Anything?
     
  9. thedope

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    In that respect the list of potentials is small.
    payment
    or
    credit
     
  10. tikoo

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    catagorically , the nothing is unknowable . still , it has a curious
    sub-set intersection with the simple unknown . the idea that god
    is the All is rather open-minded respecting potential knowing .

    the adventurous can be obsessed with potential knowing , which
    is the vastness . a soul can get lost and crazy out there , and the
    primary guide is philosophy . it reasons potentials . does your philosophy
    touch the wildness of unknowable .
     
  11. thedope

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    The un, prefix suggests a level of negation that does not exist.
     
  12. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    the unknowable could be just a neurotic concern
     
  13. Dejavu

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    tikoo:
    The idea that god is all imputes too much, and not enough to what remains an idea. In adventure, we cast ourselves out upon our vastnesses, we join the lost for a time, never distant in our love, that we reach our wilds, that the unexplored reaches out for us in the very reaching. Potentials are never truly reasoned in us, not in our poetry, our nature, which supercedes all prognostics. They are either seized, or lost in at least as much as what they were.

    Believing in god has never directly helped anyone! lol
     
  14. Asmodean

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    Lol, how do you know that? Pretty bold statement, sounds like projection to me.
     
  15. thedope

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    Invoking good cause contributes to causing good conditions. Living in a world of condition, we meet the conditions we speak for or with.
     
  16. tikoo

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    having a religion with multiple deities assists the world
    of idea . they are relational aspects .

    one time i ask my old dad about his philosophy , he just says
    well ask away . so , dad , philosophy asks 3 questions ...

    what's true ? he replies god
    what's knowing ? he repies god
    what's good ? he replies god

    to have received a more interesting weave of relationships
    i should've addressed his philosophy of farming - reference : a
    spiritual farmer's special deity , the corn angel .
     
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    In creating good conditions we're already their good cause.


    lol Well, how could it with oneself always as intermediary?

    :)
     
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    God is that which we invoke, as in god said let there be light.
     
  19. Dejavu

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    We only ever really invoke ourselves. To have one of us be god alone would be cruel to that one, and to ourselves! Mean nature always dissolves itself. Knowledge is being shared as you say, as opposed to disseminated!
     
  20. thedope

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    It is true that we create as we are created, but we do not create our own parents.
     

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