God's Time

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  1. AceK

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    the vacuum state however is a property of space time. energy is also a physical property (e=mc^2). physics is the study of the physical world. 0 is a real number.
     
  2. Anaximenes

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    But then there is also the nothing that that vacuums are failed to be recognized for. Just because we didn't fill the canister with It to know it;s consisted shape as opposed to energy to permitted change.
     
  3. Dejavu~

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    Infinity allows for movement. It is motion, though I can't provide an equation. :-D

    It doesn't tell me how, mind too being a result, not the cause of quantum process. Show me the mind without biology.

    LoL
    Dejavu: Life is made up of itself.
    thedope: Life is made of living.

    Yeah, I'm still not seeing what's not working there. You might have to check yourself.

    That's just your imagination. I'm not convinced. Have it open. :-D

    Definitely not. And not just because there's no cold-blooded life. Cell membrane bioenergetics.
     
  4. Anaximenes

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    And I'll syphon your gas tanks before you come out tonight. Yes, that's the correct spelling..
     
  5. guerillabedlam

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    Not all particles contain mass. Probably the most tangible example is photons, light particles which don't inhibit movement.
     
  6. Anaximenes

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    In other words; some particles contain mass and some others do not. So what?: is this so at all time for the empty particle OR the massive particle? All particles have a decay life. Is this ever not so for the neutral particles, Neutrons; OR for the light particles, the Photons? If there were absolutely Nothing somewhere in the Universe a Photon there would have to decay. .Other worldly universes have Something, and there the Neutron is propped up not to decay. But the logic of quantity does not work for Something as Nothing. :D :D
     
  7. Dejavu~

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    No it's not. It has to rhyme. :-D
     
  8. thedope

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    Mind is the quantum process.

    What is not working is your usual circular definitions that don't lend any additional distinction. Might as well not bother. Life is made up of many selves and interactions between, and this is called living or being alive. Without this larger communication you don't come to be. I can't undo your biology and make you see without it but you can look into substance and see the communication that is there and find if you care to that it consists of various levels of association between absorption refection and polarity. This is true whether you are viewing animate or inanimate things.
     
  9. Monkey Boy

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    To ace K: space time is a mathematical model. It's is not an actual property of space. Space has no property.

    To Dejavu: Infinity is mathematical description not an actual property.
     
  10. Anaximenes

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    Hello: the logic of Quality has enough Biology for me, as in a natural experience everything has it's organic source, subjective in a nature that contingently we die (already for the purpose of objective Nature being sensible to the Soul). Therefore, the Mind needs the Science for which civilized Man studies at surviving Life (chemical processes in the perceptual field Self-organizing).

    And, again at the dope, we did all this by observing Life coming about from the past fields, chemically existing, like the Higgs field.
     
  11. Dejavu~

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    No, it's not the quantum process. Your fundamentalism is a confusion based on the fact we only apprehend the process via mind.

    Are you thick? How is your definition essentially different from mine? What's life if not living roundhead?

    Monkeyboy:
    LOL Do you say that because you can't put it down on paper? I can't help if it's beyond you.
     
  12. guerillabedlam

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    I'll try and get back to you on that one:





    So not all particles coalesce together and emerge into matter, which if were what happen would prohibit movement consistent with Monkey Boy's arguement. Particles have wave properties which are considered physical and due to superposition can thought of to occupy vast amounts of space, therefore you can't really say there is empty space as I understand it.
     
  13. thedope

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    How does the mind function?

    The essential difference is life is a noun and living is the verb that describes it. What is life made of is a question of action. You can call the existence of an individual life but then by your formula if we ask what existence is made of you say life. If we say life is made of living and then ask what living is made of then we can get to delineating characteristics like respiration, running, or repetition.
     
  14. Dejavu~

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    Physically. Its function at quantum level does not imply that consciousness is the universe, only that consciousness influences it.

    lol You can get to the details more quickly than that! You needn't wait for me. I'm not you. And besides, you insist that lifes being made up of itself isn't a 'working' definition. Delineate your god! You won't find a first cause, but then 'belonging' is your prerogative, ( as though it weren't your default. ) :-D
     
  15. AceK

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    because of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, you cannot look anywhere and say that there is nothing there. there will always be energy. quantum fluctuations with the most popular description being virtual particles that pop into and out of existence. the mathematics that physicists are using may be a little lacking currently in describing everything about the universe in one equation but the maths work. even in empty space there is the potential for energy.

    the inflationary Big Bang cosmology model would not work at all if this were not so ... how could space time expand if space time itself was simply nothing and had no properties?

    here's something I dig up about the vacuum energy if anyone is interested in this sort of thing
    http://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-physics-basics/quantum-fluctuations-and-their-energy/
     
  16. AceK

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    http://youtu.be/1GCf29FPM4k
     
  17. thedope

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    A quote,
    "A lengthy tradition of inquiries in philosophy, religion, psychology and cognitive science has sought to develop an understanding of what a mind is and what its distinguishing properties are. The main question regarding the nature of mind is its relation to the physical brain and nervous system – a question which is often framed as the Mind-body problem, which considers whether mind is somehow separate from physical existence (dualism and idealism[5]), deriving from and/or reducible to physical phenomena such as neuronal activity (physicalism), or whether the mind is identical with the brain or some activity of the brain.[6] Another question concerns which types of beings are capable of having minds, for example whether mind is exclusive to humans, possessed also by some or all animals, by all living things, or whether mind can also be a property of some types of man-made machines.

    I didn't say it was my prerogative to belong I said I belong. Consciousness and mind are two different words.
     
  18. Anaximenes

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    Thereby your position, thedope, is that life on Earth could be neglected for the "mind" of (machine-like) Consciousness, though the Mind may have thus contingently a free will of organic confidence.
     
  19. thedope

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    My position is that life on earth is a lawful expression of probability.
     
  20. Anaximenes

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    Eventually in meta-possibilities it comes to the Law of the economy's nature for the Republicans.
     

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