Good Leaves-Bad Leaves

Hey MG: Thanks for the tech detail(s). Would also like to know how many watss per sqaure foot that turns out to be. As youn can see, I am trying to figure out what factor made those magnificent buds so magnificent and I am just trying to duplicate as many factors as possible (where you kindly share them). Did you get my post on those mosquito magnets to supply co2, what's your opinion on such??
And finally, mind sharing with me the brand/kind of moisture meter, Ph &ec meter or system? you seem to have a line on stuff that has been rated by users/professionals. Seems I should start considering a way of paying tuition for being in meangreen's school of botany. Thanks bro. b1

 

I threw all those meters out when I went back to soil years ago!They are a waste of money unless your into hydro,all you should need is a ph test kit to test the water in your cloner,I do use a soil test kit ,link below as I make my own soil!In flower I have 57 watts per sq foot!I would not waste money on co2 except from a generator.http://www.sciencekit.com/category.asp_Q_c_E_507736

 

Im winging it without so much as litmus paper- I dont use anything. I plan to soon ,but I still am without.
im surely hitting close to 85 watts per square foot now, i don't use some of the area in there. 2400 watts for about 28 square foot that gets used.

im using 40w per square ft in the veg area though, ironically enough there are 8 plants budding on 12/12 ,and seedlings in the little chamber.
and close to fourty males/females on 18/6 vegging toward an open pollenation.
They are freaky, wider than they are tall- average spacing on main stalks inbetween nodes, is probably 3/4 of an inch, to possibly an inch. The branches are shooting out as wide as the leaves, popping up between the blades usually.
they are averaging 10" tall and 12" wide. FAT LITTLE #@%kers. MY F2 STINKY'S.
yes they are.
i just stuck in a humidifier today- hopefully they will stretch a little bit more- i got the temp up to 90 -100 now that they have humidity.
it's been averaging 20% humidity.
now it's 40% humidity, this strain has been developed for drought tolerance over the last decade { among many other traits- branching is always a must in my breeding}
so the dry start will continue on with this trait. they are hitting 5-6 weeks now though, so i want them to stretch a bit before they go on 12/12. the males showed at 3-4 weeks - i removed the ugly small ones- might get a couple tall ones out- but the tallest budded the fastest. so it stays.
prepare the world to be blown away b1.
im sending off for my usb cable- the suspense is killing me.
i want to share the beauty of these creations,to be truthful, and perfectly honest, they remind me a lot of the ornamental strain luther burbank created before prohibition.

 

My gosh was i stoned lastnight
Luther did what?
Please disregard my ravings.
Ivan Bosca was the creator of the ornamental strain to which i referr. Luther was the "father of horticulture" or that's his nickname.
he applied darwins theory's to botany.

i'll go see if i can get the pic of ivan i speak of.
If not, i'll provide a link to it anyways.

 

the picture of Ivan and "panorama".

 

IM NOT SURE HOW THAT FIRST pic got in there,just a shot of the old veg area and some clones.

in the second pic-

The fat bladed ones in the middle were the first stinkies-f1.the parents to what i have going now.

third pic.
is A cropped shot of the stinkies, and the little one is pinky.
The big one was the male stinky,of course.

 

Seeing your pictures now, tiedye! Must have that usb cable problem licked, right?!
Say tie, remember me asking about that butane and how I couldn't get it in decent sized bulk containers? You have ideas about that? thanks bro, would appreciate that.b1

 

THose are pics of the f1 parents ,actually. old pics when i was still running the 430 shp.................
now i am dealing with downymold on the fatter leaved phenos......
threw another out today.
see "disaster//mildew" for details on that...........
As to tanks of butane, how about a welder supply wherehouse....
but i been kind of thinkin the same thing.
although i found "lighten" and "KING" have 300ml {6 oz} canisters, which with a little one will do my foot-long 1 1/2 inch pvc extractor. it holds a few ounces of shake when packed right...probly close to three oz at a time.
i find the leaf makes an oil similar to hash oil, and the budtrim more like honey oil.......
I guess im gonna have to get my stash from the cannabis club for awhile,if these plants don't quit dropping off.......

 

sporting good stores, liquor stores, and convienience gas stations are where i see the big cans, sometimes. Big-5 usually has the king.

 

--Hey ! -I just dryed these out. -Theyl trim up a bit more but they still outta wind up a QP when theyr done! -Not bad taking into consideration I had root zone issues where my root zones were at about 44 degrees for a while due to a digital thermomiter with low batterys reading about 20 or so degrees higher than they actually were. --Fukkin issues issues issues. -Whell waddafukk .. -The good thing is that I get to realize my improvements every other week . -It just sukks when ya find that you were doin something wrong for a while and you find youv done better. -It feals like your takin a step backwards. -I think Im gonna post a progress thread where I post my harvest every other week. --Mabey Il get this system pumpin full power real real soon ! -Annyhow .. Heres some Sugar Shack pics !

 

piranha took out the mildew overnight.
42 bucks but it was well worth it.
It has so many other uses, but 'ill always have a little on hand to cure fungal diseases when and if they happen in the future.
Nice nugs lumpy, they look somehow strangely familiar. Must be cause we watched em grow this time, what a nice experience it was for all of us. To see two sugarshacks in one thread was a treat! Thanks B1 and lumpy!
Im using three choice moms soon, i have seedlings at three weeks , 6 weeks and 50 more assorted (by rows - tagged and seperate)popping as we speak.

 

Oh how sweet it is LuMpY! My SS came in at about half the size of your buds so to judge>>it's hard to judge size on photos<< Is the last pic all of it together?4 big budsticks and the rest as individual budlets? or are the previous two pics also some of the "take"? What total "net take" did you get? I posted (in this tread earlier on) my "net harvest take" of the one SS I was able to bring all the way thru and it was 3 ounces (85 grams). It is now in jars and I smoke some of the "frosty trim". Surprisingly smooth and very little harsh and green taste to it.
Tiedye, how sorry to hear you're dealing with the mold. I have been fogging a light mist of diluted neem oil in my growing areas as well as outside and it seems to keep fungi and insects at bay. doing that about twice a week seems to work. lLike to hear what mean green thinks about that as well. b1

 

advanced nutrient's piranha took care of my mold problem.
I moved the infected ones inside again they recovered so well.
They also had a skunk smell that i noticed when i moved two of em.
I thought i might get a skunk pheno out of this work.
>one of the males pulled has a blueberry sort of smell, hope there are more of those as well.
Which i also hoped for by this crossing, and breaking into f2 . Im going to have to wait to breed any of the phenos seperately though, I got more of the f2 around, probably wait until i build myself a house. I hope to start in 6 mos {borrowing from credit union to get going) and buy property/build a basement that is 12 foot deep- slap a modular
home on top of the underground basement. I been drawing up plans for the basement.
36x 45 feet total.
5 8x10 foot selective breeding chambers,
one veg area14x20
one seedling clone area 16x11
A late summer preflower budroom- SOX, halide ,and sodium- warmer temps.This room is mainly for the preflower stretching time.
an 8x 18 curing room
two 11x12 seedless budrooms.
Stairs and hallways will take up the remaining space.
54,600 watts required to run it.
It Will be the last growroom i'll ever need to setup.
And i'll be able to breed enough seeds to supply the seedbanks for a living.
nice dream eh!

 

like to see THAT when it's finished.b1

 

--Hey Howdy Everybody ! -Thats a QP total . -I like this room better when it puts out at least 6 oz. -It should be a bit better in 2 weeks. -Its like I said, -theres always somkinda issues. -Its like I said, -Bozo's my fukkin hero now Brudda! -This shitts like spinnin plates! -Im startin to get the hang of it pretty good now tho but sometimes shitt like this happens. -Heh Heh .. -Il post a thread in 2 weeks when the next 4 come out to show the improvement. -Il post a progress thread.

 

I'LL BE SURE To keep you posted.

 

Hey LuMpY would you know the Sativa/Indica balance in the SugarShack/Prairie Pride? I have asked the folks of Kind Seeds and they did not dignify me with a reply. Maybe tiedye or meangreen or geckopelli might know if you don't. Would really like to hear on this. Getting the cloner going today! Being busy but still monitoring these posts. Keep me up guys! Thanks. b1

 

-Hey Hows it goin B1! -I asked that same Q a while ago. -I dont know but judgin by the flower time I figure it must be an indica or indica dominant Weed .

 

hey b1
try looking around at overgrow or better yet this site.I have found more pertenent info ,than i can readily assimilate here.
http://www.cannabisworld.org/vbportal/forums/index.php?s=
have a nice day.

 

Yeah B1

Im using neem at the moment, I usually dont like to but im in preflower so Im blasting them for a coule weeks,a couple times a week.
My prized mutant mom had the mites, she was smuggling them through from the last cycles.L.O.L. I quarranteened her in the shower, and she is ready to cut- so i scraped about a half ounce of crispy sweet bracts from underneath the clone groupings. THEN SHE got put in the shower and neem oil treatments. She might get once- or even twice a day neem. She is under a flourex so im not concerned about buring her- just the house down. mean had a flourex blow up on him- so Im watching mine close for the couple days i use it. But she is my prized mom, I get compliments like-"i forgot what it was like to get stone- until i smoked some of yours"
Stinky gets that reaction a lot too.

Mold is ok= Im trying to build this primarily indica's resistace to mold- It is drought tolerant like crazy- now i need to work on the other end of that scale.
I sure wish my cable would get here. Im about to blow the worlds collective mind.
there are threads on og and cw waiting to get loaded down with pics. a couple breeder collectives are showing interest. Im on the edge of my seat here.
Time to smoke up some bract! I been through two weeks of smoking water leaf.
The first week was to bring down the tolerance in my head. I smoked mosly waterleaf from the buds that came from my mutant at harv. not really bud leaf though- she doesn't need too much trimming. So my tolerance came down.
Then i started breaking out the 6-7 week old males from this cycle that were deleted during mildew days. NOT ONE VARIED in potency, they all got you blasted with no headache and no couchy burnout. A very strong sedative feeling, and a good melow body high. From 7 week old males. Not realstrong- you got to smoke a couple dubers. But the high was excellent.
For an f2, the variations im finding are of no consequence, different flavors and shapes is about it. I want that in a strain.