Goodstock 2007

Thank you Robert, we have to hold together against the MAN, and not fight amongest ourselves, there is plenty of bigger fish to fry outside the circle.

Give Carol my best and know what Love you give today will come back ten fold tomorrow.. Blessed Be my friend
sh

 

What seems to be the issue? Money? Spot in the line-up?

I'm not in a band now, but when I was, the big thing for me was getting the chance to play for people. That was my thing, just like getting my GF off and not worrying about my own gratification is my thing. Give, and you get.

I'm totally burned on the "me, me, me" shit from the 30 & 40 somethings, the gen Xrs and all those self-centered whiney little shits. There are 8 billion people on the planet; what makes them think they are so special?

It's an LSD deficiency, I tell you... hahahahaha

 

No.... Its not money.... This 'event' started at Patsy and Steve's Ranch and was never about money.... until Larry got hold of it and sent everybody contracts. We DO play for money..... but not at the Different Color Ranch. If someone calls and then sends me a contract, that I sign and send back, I expect them to honor the thing.... Not cuss me when I ask a question..... I've been in contact with most of the bands on the Goodstock page over the last two days and over half of them aren't coming... due to Larry. I'm waiting to hear from Streamernet, the video company that he had us sign contracts for (and he never sent back). He has promised all kinds of stuff and now, what 10 days before the gig, he cancells everything and expects everybody to still show up on our own dime.

If they had said from the beginning "Its the same as the Horse of a Different Color Ranch thing... we're just moving it to Summersville"... everything would be cool. But he didn't do that. He promised everybody $1000 per show, for two shows, in writing, and them pulled the rug out from under it.

That is NOT an honorable way to conduct buisness. I personally do not want to see all of my friends, that I've known and partied with and played music with for years, getting screwed by someone in this manner.....

Tommy

http://www.tommystriplethreatbluesr...m/BandPage.html

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West Virginia Blues SocietyYesterday 03:41 PM

 

Untill Larry got a hold of it!?!?!.. what are you talking about now Tommy.. you are out of your league here brother.. your messin' with me now.. this is my work.. It was I who brought Patsy in.. you wanna take me on Tommy, cuz you don't know what the hell your talking about.. Larry created GS not Patsy or anyone else.. GS had been under go months before I even contacted Patsy in west by god virginia.. while I was searching for a location.. I was working with Tim Litherland in Colorado, Denver.. we could not find a location that would allow everything GS was.. camping vendors ect.. I contacted Patsy asking her for imformation on where the rainbow held their gatherings that was hippie friendly.. Patsy offered up her place.. gs grew, Patsy's place was too small.. so your are talking shit now.. and something else brother.. I also brought in Streamernet so dont go fucking things up with them with your bs. Who made you king.. who do you think you are.. your a band with a attitude problem.. your becoming a trouble maker.. stop it now.. or I will personally see you booted out of GS..

Yours Truly
shameless_heifer aka Starla
sh

 

Tommy I see while your are dis ing gs your are still using my gs forums to pomote your self and your CDs..

 

Heres another couple things everybody knows about me..... I'm a 100% disabled veteran.....16 years in the Army Bomb Squad..... I've been blown up three times.... protecting America and fellow Americans..... I receive 50 triggerpoint injections every 60 days in my shoulder, arm, wrist, and back, just so I can move around... much less play guitar..... I do not get paid to play any gig...... but my band does. Any time I showed up with a band at the Ranch..... I paid 'em out of my own pocket.


Its not about money...... Its about proper conduct of buisness as a professional musician.... which I am....

I'm not trying to relive something that I screwed MYSELF out of in 1969.... I've worked hard for everything I have and I'm very proud of it..... and I share all that I have with my friends if they ever need it. But I have never promised anybody anything that I couldn't get them.


Tommy

http://www.tommystriplethreatbluesr...m/BandPage.html

Member
Black Label Society
Charleston Blues Society
West Virginia Blues Society

 

Larry is planing to pay everyone he has promised to pay and even more if he can.. he has told you and every band the same thing over and over again.. don't you think that Larry should pay for the location, the insurance the security staff first bc without all that we can not have a festival.. Do you care about anything Larry has done to make it possible for you to play GS.. he has morgaged his house and his car..what have you done to help.. not a fucking thing.. you just bitch about shit you know nothing about.. shame on you again.
Starla

 

Tommy PLEASE don't mix up the Always Free Jamfest with Goodstock. They are NOT the same thing, and never were meant to be. We had already decided to take a break this year and maybe next if some things don't get straightened out. Jamfest had become a free-for-all and the LOCALS were ruining it. Broken beer bottles in the pond, fights, drunken fools coming to suck up on whatever they could and leave nothing but trash and a bad feeling.
The county "Authorities" got pissed. Right up front, we've got a mess of legal problems at the moment, most likely due to the Jamfest. We can't do anything more until things get settled with "the man".

Originally we were going to LEASE the entire farm to Larry to cover our asses and sit back, rope off the house, and let him do his thing. He wanted us to run a small stage and we agreed. It was all to be set up where WE WERE NOT LEGALLY LIABLE for the thing.

The cops hate us. The county commissioners said there was no way they would allow Goodstock to happen here, no matter HOW much money it brought into the county (this county is nearly bankrupt). A "neighboring" farm that was to be used for a parking area has been "unofficially" CONFISCATED by the county. The owners were raided, searched without a warrant, and recieved a forfeiture notice. We've been harassed so many times by the State cops since the last Jamfest we've lost count. We've been raided on a totally bogus warrant, we've been visited in the middle of the night by cops who claimed they got a 9-11 call about a fight, they've called us on the phone, we've been accused of things we had no part of and didn't even know about. Two days ago the Ranch and surrounding neighborhood was buzzed for almost an hour by a VERY low flying and possibly military helicopter (large and army-green) with a MACHINE GUN....

I just got involved in Goodstock because I thought it would be a good thing. I turned you on to it because Larry said he'd consider some of our regulars and I thought I was doing you a favor... I feel bad that things are not working out for you. I sort of feel responsible 'cause I'm the one who sent you in that direction. But I can just go with the flow at this point because the behind-the-scenes troubles with Goodstock pale in comparison to the mess of SHIT we have been dealing with since Last July. And it's NOT "our" event, it's Larrys. We have no ultimate control and don't WANT it. I'm not goin' into a bunch of detail here, it's not the place or the time. But don't forget the emails I sent you....... Please, if ya want, send me an email or PM and we will really talk.

Many times it's prudent to just keep things under your hat and allow things to unfold however they will. Everyone ultimately gets what they have coming that way and you don't have to take on any bad karma yourself. It's the concept of "give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves". You don't HAVE to get overly involved. Karma happens anyhow. I'm sure all the other musicians have formed their own concepts of what Goodstock is. And I'm sure they will act upon their own feelings. This is as it should be. You or I or anyone else does not need to get overly involved in what the other musicians decide. They have their own experiences and their own minds. We REALLY need to simply ALLOW things to unfold as they will without a bunch of tampering. Whatever happens, happens. We are beating our heads against a wall by trying to force issues we ultimately have little control over and really have no business trying to control. Well, at least that's how I look at it.

Schul, Absolutely an LSD deficiency! Where can we find some??? I think it might save the world. First doses go to the authorities here in Calhoun County!

P.S.
I'm told some of the Woodstock bands did not get paid either...

P.S.Again
Tommy, Stevie says he loves ya and hopes to see you soon.

 

WE all have disabilties Tommy..Larry has one leg.. he's not a suit.. he's a blue collor worker just like the rest of us.. your trying to make him into something he's not..Larry is no big time promotor he is trying to do something good.. your not.. stop your self serving bs and either get on the bus and sit down or get the hell of it cuz your making the other passengers uncomfortable with your rants.

I'm fixin' to ask Larry to take you off the play list.. your not gs material.. more like woodstock99 with all their violence and vomit..

Starla

 

perfessional behaviour is not how your conducting yourself Tommy..

 

Tommy has made treats on Larrys life.. over a scheduel.. I ask you people to look to the Light.. and not buy in to disgrunteled individuals rants.. all this over a scheduel, WTF.. do we want artist that threaten peoples lives over a job scheduel at Goodstock. It has exculated by Toomy btw to a police matter. Tommy claims to be a professional but is this the behaviour of a pro.. pros know the law and make every effort not to break it. We at GS can not induldge this kind of propaganda.

The TRUTH will be known Tommy.. I will see to it personally.
sh

 

Since you have made this public Tommy.. you forgot to add the part where you threaten Larry's life.. I just wanted this for the record.. you can't delete it.. as I am sure your lawyer will want you to do.

 

so you now want to get on the band wagon Skip.. Larry was expecting more advanced tickets sales to cover expences but people are waiting for the gate.. so what is suppose to do.. Skip you know nothing about what Larry is doing nor do you know anything about GS or you wouldn't be posting what you are.. yes I guess I am about the only one promoting gs here.. but that doesn't mean there are not other promos going on.. how would you know anyway.. your just mad bc Larry didn't agree to your money issues.. you want money more then anyone.. that is why you are against gs bc you didn't join us when you had the chance now here you are spouting sour grapes.. just like the rest of the ones that didn't get their way.. how can Larry give you what he doesn't have.. everyone Larry talks to is all talk.. they tell him do it this way, do it that way.. and want money.. when they can't gurantee results... but they still want the $$ ohh yeah.. If the bands didn't want money to play and the location was free and someone would build a stage for free then yes it would be a free festival.. but you and everyone else wants to be paid right now.. right fucking now or I'll blow you up.. so talk your talk.. but it aint walking the walk..

I hope all goes well for you as planed also Skip

Brightest Blessings
shameless_heifer

 

This is all like a butterfly colliding with a tree in the mountains outside Mexico City leading to WWIII. Events spiral out of control.

Tommy, first off, thanks for your service. While I haven't been blown up, I've got some physical problems that keep me from doing all I want to do. You are fortunate that you are getting some compensation. I, and many others, are not, and my medical insurance is becoming increasingly unaffordable. Some of us don't have the VA behind us. I'm out of pocket over 8K from a detached retina 1-1/2 years ago. My point is, I don't see the relevance of anyone's health to the subject at hand.

You also said, "I'm not trying to relive something that I screwed MYSELF out of in 1969.... "; I don't understand what you could have screwed yourself out of when you were 10 years old.

Starla/SH, step back and take a few really deep breaths. Your posts are reading like you're losing it. I can dig all the hard work that you've put into GS; but Skip has a point. I didn't hear about GS until about 3 or 4 months ago. If it's been in planning for 2+ years, everyone in the country should have heard about it by now. If I had known about it a year ago, I could've lent a hand helping get things done. Instead, I made some decisions which led to me paying out 32K in cap gains taxes this year. I could've sponsored at least one band, and maybe even partly sponsored IABD, provided they weren't previously booked.

For something like this, Marketing is EVERYTHING. If you build the marketing snowball at the top of the hill, as it rolls, it takes on a life of its own. If you wait until the bottom of the hill to make the snowball, it just sits there.

I'm not getting good vibes from all this online bickering, people. Now, I've got my two tickets sitting in front of me (two, even though it's just me going). I'm rather surprised at the numbers on them. I'm not sanguine about the denouement.

 

Hey earthmother! If I knew how to make the Supreme Sacrament, I would. I do have some knowledge of lab technique... 8>) Nick Sand knows. Maybe we can free leonard Pickard like the Weathermen did brother Timothy... hahahaha.

I reckon we'll have to make do with mushies for the time being, eh? Bear says mushies have a fairly heavy body load, & I have to agree. Good, clean LSD is just so sweet! Hahahaha

 

I also would like to say that it doesn't make me feel very trusting seeing threads disappear from places. That speaks to fear and insecurity. Let it all hang out, Baby.

Sure, there's anxiety and fear and worry. But if it's all out in the open, well, people like me can dig it. it's understandable, it's normal, it's HUMAN. We all have it.

Maybe some of y'all have forgotten the lessons that brothers Timothy, Owsley, Ram Dass, St. Stephan, and so on, taught us all. Trust in your brothers and sisters.

There is really a whole lot I could say, and lessons learned that I could pass on, but at this stage of the game, I suspect that it doesn't matter. The egos are running the games, and sense and logic will only intercede in hindsight. I know I've tried to pull sht off by myself, turning down help from good people, because my ego got in the way of doing the right thing.

I'm not saying this to anybody in particular; I'm saying it to everybody. If love and humility aren't first and foremost, failure is assured.

namaste.