Goodstock 2007

Oh, one more thing I just remembered. The reason my deal with Larry fell through (according to Larry), was the fact that I refused to GUARANTEE ticket sales as a result of his ads on our site. He never said it was about the money, so I'm surprised SH makes that assumption.

Like that's MY responsibility to guarantee X number of tickets being sold, based on the effectiveness of his ads, his promotional capabilities, his website, etc. All things we have no control over. So there was no way he could ever get a "guarantee" on sales from ANYBODY. Yet, that is what he demanded. So in other words if the sales didn't materialize, it was my fault, and I suppose he would've expected ME to buy any tickets that I'd "guaranteed".

I suppose the fact that by now 5,000,000 people (mostly hippies) would've seen Goodstock ads on our websites wasn't good enough, I had to personally guarantee ticket sales too...

Do I sound like a fool?

Imo, that exposure could've made a huge difference to advance sales. I think he only had to sell like 10 tickets from our sites to break even on the ads (which probably already happened). That's peanuts! If anything he's profited from the FREE ads we put up on hippy.com and this thread without us seeing a dime. And I'm the money grubber... hummm.

Que sera, sera...

I'm sorry I had to post all this here, but it's better for everyone to know what I know. This isn't rumor, this isn't meant to hurt anyone, just inform.

 

OK, that's for that info. I'm glad to see he is at last personally invested besides his time.

I know this event means a lot to a lot of ppl. Few ppl are willing to take such risks anymore because so many have been burnt in the past, so we should respect and support those who go that far out on a limb.

Yes, at least one decent sponsor would've also helped a lot. That should've been arranged early on, or at least a deep pocket supporter, before even announcing the event.

Hummm...
So now you're saying he took my advice and advertised elsewhere, way too late. Makes me feel real good.

Did he get ticket sale "guarantees" from all those businesses he's advertising with?

and the results of the ad campaign are...?

 

Sounds good! Hopefully a last minute blitz will ignite the national buzz this event needs.

I noticed the Free ad he placed online with Rolling Stone, I'll look for the paid ad.

 

Boy you ARE a font of misinformation, and now I must respond to your lies, and thus this drama won't end, as I was done with it already.

Now I must make our contract deliberations public, but hey, this is a public event, fine.

My original offer to larry was a $1000 discount off what the ad campaign would normally have cost ($3000), so he was only committing himself to $2000, of which he could have cancelled after the first month, paying only $750 - his bottom line risk. That would've meant he had to only sell 8 tickets to make a profit from his ad. The ad was set to run 4 whole months on two very popular websites (yeah let's see what that would cost elsewhere, for the exposure he would've got here - probably 5xs as much).

After explaining ALL that to Larry, he came back wanting to know more details about the $1000 deal. I had to explain that there was never a mention of a $1000 deal ever. But then I went and offered to put one together for him if that was his budget limitation. So that was the LAST offer he got from me, $1000. Which he declined saying it was because I wouldn't guarantee ticket sales from the ad. Never was there a $3000 deal. So that just isn't true.

The fact that Larry couldn't even commit to $750 worth of advertising, surely didn't help his credibility and started to make me leery because a gig like this takes a lot of money to put on, and it was clear he didn't have any.

Uh I might've told him I was going there, because he offered me free tickets for the Goodstock event. I couldn't attend (as I told SH before) because I live in CA, and have no plan (ever) to go to WV.

I never told him I'd need $3000 to go to a COMPLETELY FREE event (yes, ppl still put on FREE events - guess Larry can't fathom that) that is just a few hours drive away for me. That's completely ridiculous and a lie. All ad money goes to support this site, which still doesn't support itself. That $1000 would've helped fund this site for two months only (webserver and bandwidth ONLY!). Instead we didn't get it and so I'm STILL forking out every month from what little savings I have left (it will be gone very soon, as will this site, if ppl don't support it)

So go ahead, try to attack me some more, with more lies. It's really adding to your credibility... BTW, I'm more than willing to post up the complete correspondence we had if ppl want to see it, but you've pretty much got it all already now.

I'm not trying to be clever or anything. I protect this site and its members above any other interests.

I'm certainly not going to give this event ANY more FREE publicity, because I'm JUST A MONEY GRUBBER, as you've proven so well, NOT!

See what happens next time someone asks for a FREE AD on this website.

You've just ruined it for everyone. I'm really tired of ppl scamming stuff for free from me and these websites. As if all the spam we have to deal with daily isn't enough.

• Over 500 alternative businesses advertise on our websites FOR FREE
• We have over 15,000 FREE Email accounts using our domain names.
• We used to have over 1,000 FREE websites using our domains, but we had to stop those due to spam.
• Goodstock had two FREE ADS on Hippy.com that ran for months and stayed up EVEN after the deal with Larry fell thru (but not anymore).

YUP, IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY, AIN'T IT?


FUCK YOU!

 

BTW, since the Summer of Love 40th Anniversary Party in Golden Gate Park, San Francisco, was mentioned I thought I'd provide some more info about this FREE CONCERT which was put together by people who really know what they're doing.

Look at who they lined up to play so far (for free I presume). The event is still two months away, Sept. 2nd, Labor Day weekend (Sunday).

Michael McClure with Ray Manzarek (from the Doors)
Country Joe McDonald & Barry “The Fish” Melton (Country Joe and the Fish)
Taj Mahal
Jessie Collin Young and Banana "A Young Bloods Reunion"
New Riders of the Purple Sage
Canned Heat
Dan Hicks and the Hot Licks
The Charlatans
Blue Cheer
Nick Gravenites Band with David Laflamme
The All Night Flight featuring David Denny (from Steve Miller) and
Jack King (from Cold Blood)
Jerry Miller (from Rhythm Dukes)
Fuzzy John Oxendine (Sons of Champlin)
Tyran Porter (from Doobie Brothers)
Dale Ockerman (from Doobie Brothers) & Tony Lindsay (Santana)
Brian Auger’s The Eternity
Freddie Roulette
Wavy Gravy
San Francisco’s First Family of Rock (TBA)
Ruth Weiss (Beat Poet)
Chris Rowen (Rowen Brothers)
Alameda All Stars (from Gregg Allman)
Brad Jenkins (The Non-Prophets, Cruz Control)
Merl Saunders (supporting the effort)
Terry Haggerty (from the Sons of Champlin)
Essra Mohawk (from the Mothers of Invention) & (from Country Joe
and the Fish)
Squid B. Vicious
Jim Post (Friend and Lover, Siegel Schwall Blues Band)
David Gans, Lenore Kandel (Beat Poet)
Paul “Lobster” Wells (MC)
Dr Hip (MC)
Doug Green (MC)
Chief Sunne Reyna, Fishbone, Iroquois Tribe, Dakota Tribe,
Seminole Tribe, Emitt Powell and the Gospel Elites.
Additional acts are still confirming.

More info here:
http://www.2b1records.com/summeroflove40th/

This is an event that AIN'T about the money...

 

what amazes me, as a person who writes about, attends and now also works in the music biz, is SH 's continual harping about money, starting in the second post.
When I went to work for a concert-holding entity I had a non disclosure agreement.
this blabbing the organizers biz is unprofessional, and as you can see, bought nothing but ill will.
I was thinking about taking time (in the clock sense and in the life energy sense and attend this.

I won't because of the public face of the event is juvenile, unprofessional and blaming.


Skip, I'd like to close this.
Anyone interested in going could still read it, but the arguments could stop.
What say you, site owner?

 

It was closed...