Google in Bed with NSA

Discussion in 'Latest Hip News Stories' started by skip, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Well yeah, swapping out you Network adapter will change your MAC, I think I even mentioned that. So we are at least on the same page in that regard and that was all I was really saying, The MAC address is hard-coded to the device and provides a pretty reliable tracking method for those who want to track a person's activity.

    And in keeping with this thread topic, the MAC address does provide a means of tracking a specific machine which most people are not aware of.
    Everybody is familiar with IP#'s, but unless someone is a tech or geek they may know nothing about the MAC address.
    Keep that in mind people, just because you change your IP# or ISP does not mean that all your activity can't be traced.

    About the Win 7 method, does it remain altered even after a reboot? Also it isn't actually changing the hardware address just what is reported via the O.S., correct? Honest question because I don't currently use Win 7 and am not familiar with all it's bells and whistles yet.

    Good tips though to be sure and thanks for the host file link :2thumbsup:
     
  2. love-laughter

    love-laughter Member

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    That's just the problem isn't it?

    Blocking google and facebook is hard. Real Fucking Hard! You can edit your hosts file, add their urls/ip into restricted sites in explorer or adblock in firefox. But click on a link on some page and they'll load on your screen.

    To me, this is proof that there is some sort of government spy/enforcement collusion. Because even strongest malware site can be blocked 100% with a couple of keystrokes. But google and facebook are always a click away.

    I estimate that I've provided enough information that the average person should be able to protect themself from about 70% of their spy activities. After that, your into 3rd party firewalls. Even with a firewall, I figure I've only been able to give myself about a 94% barrier of protection.

    As for the network cards,
    I recommend stock up on a few of them because they're slowly being taken off the market. The trend is to integrate them on the motherboard.

    Fuck as I've been saying. " I'm evil for believing that I paid for my computer and that I want to be the only person that uses it. " No one ever said to me that google and facebook would be using my computer more than I do.

    It remains after the reboot and changes the hardware.
    And let's be honest, they wouldn't give us that ability unless they had a better way of tracking us.
     
  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Yes, it was MAC addresses that Google's street view cars were recording surreptiously, as those can be easily read wirelessly. And no doubt each MAC address was tied to a physical location via GPS. So that makes it easy to locate someone if you have their MAC address, and vice versa.

    I'm guessing the tech used on those street cars was state of the art, right out of CIA labs.
     
  4. Sethvir

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    On the subject of MAC addresses, they can only be used for tracking across one network hop, as ARP packets do not cross router boundaries.
    The fact that MAC addresses are nearly static make them no use for large scale routing, which is why hierarchical IP addresses are used.

    There are easier ways to track people's online movements (cookies, browser user agent string, etc.), and offline just about every big component of the machine has a serial number.

    As for google streetview, the issue was more that they recoded plaintext fragments of people who weren't using encryption. Passwords and the like.
     
  5. xxxSidxxx

    xxxSidxxx Guest

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    Wow,

    what the hell has the u.s turned into? Feels like we're in the middle of some chaotic cyber war about to explode into the streets. No privacy walking outside, no privacy walking into ones own bedroom, no privacy period... "Let me just zip up this tent under this hole which I've dug up under my back yard."

    To me, the worse thing about this is, you want to do something about it all. You want to help fight back, but the thing that sucks is, a lot of us (including myself) are already fighting with this shit-holed economy to make a living... No time in your hands, so all you can do is watch and listen to this crazy-psychotic shit, and hope something someday can put a stop to this craziness. The least we can do is help spread the word.
     
  6. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    The info about the NSA sucking up to Google has been on the 'net since 2004 (or was it 2005?). So it takes people SIX MAYBE SEVEN FUCKING YEARS to figure out that.... it was true? WTF? What more would people want? Signed fucking confessions? USE YOUR FUCKING HEADS! "If it looks to good to be true....."? WHAT? Certainly not "If it looks to good to be true it's really covered in maraschino fucking cherries"!

    Expecting people to think logically is about like expecting honest politicians.
    Great in theory but reality says it just won't happen.
     
  7. fire_in_the_soul

    fire_in_the_soul Member

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    Officers of google and some people working for them, have been 'in bed' with mossad agents and officers for some time. The NSA accusation is just to deflect criticism off of zionist/mischpucka interests - not that there aren't infiltrators, 'pollard' etc. And people that work for mossad, part time or full, work for the current rothschild, central bankers et al mischpucka. Ever wondered why they (google officers) offered 'out of the kindness of their hearts' to KEEP all your mail FOREVER?

    It's an electronic polling system, like they drag the cattle out every few years to vote for one of their candidates, to see which way the wind is blowing. Don't feel like they are singling anyone out (that's mostly your own paranoia caused by fluoride, bromide, and other poisonings). They could, however; the general intent is easy-to-see, a big electronic polling system.
     
  8. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    Actually, I have to agree. Freedom of speech is not there to protect the pleasant and beautiful talk that many adore. It's there to protect the patently offsive that nauseates others. It's not there to protect what everyone agrees with, because if everyone agrees with it, it clearly does not need protected. It's there to protect the unpopular and unpleasant speech from the attacks and censorship pushed on it by those that disagree. By those it may offend.




     
  9. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    Yup have been for awhile......

    I question the security of things they offer (Google voice,google talk,etc) Are those services safe from thier snooping? (Most likely not)
     
  10. Skizm

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    I wanted to respond to this one Skip because I feel that you misunderstood the point I was making.

    I agree with you that Google most-likely (More of a 100% thing really...) routinely offers up data on its users to government agencies. In fact Google plans on making computer software that will analyze what you're saying near your computer and record it.

    However, I'm not ignorant about what Google may or may not do. That being said, adding 'non-profit' to the beginning of a company name like it means anything is ignorant. Ever seen a non-profit hospital? Flash-frozen palm trees in the lobbies and all the latest equipment. So to me, what weight does non-profit carry? Jack fucking shit. All non-profit means is that their books say 0$ at the end of the quarter. THAT'S IT. Just because they are non-profit doesn't mean that they're going to be automatically an ethical and trustworthy company.

    Just because they don't report a profit does... and let me stress this: MEAN ANYTHING. They can be just as corrupt as the next company. Are they? Not sure, haven't come to a conclusion on that one.

    You sir, need to lay off the meth. You're paranoia and lack of social tact is showing.

    Now... to Google.

    Google is the perfect surveillance vehicle.

    They monitor our search habits, maybe we want to know how to grow pot. Oh well the NSA doesn't like that, so they ask Google for pertinent information regarding you.

    They have monitored our wireless internet information with their street view cars. What information did they steal? What did they use it for. Not quite sure! Their motto is "Don't be evil" so right off the bat I assume it is something evil!

    Also, one of the things you may not have heard is how much information Google Chrome gathers about your computer habits. It has the ability, from what I have read here and there to record each keystroke in the address bar up yonder ^------

    I'm under no illusions that some or all of this information ends up in the hands of the government.
     
  11. love-laughter

    love-laughter Member

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    I've always said,
    Nice fucking slogan. Now be nice little greedy assholes and tell us just how you define what evil is.

    When I hear Google's slogan, I often think about Dave-Dave's (David Rothenberg) father. Because the mother fucker believed that he was doing the right thing. He certainly didn't believe he was doing any kind of evil.

    Now remember that this is the son of a bitch that set fire to his own kid. Dave-Dave was a child who was burned over 90 percent of his body by his father. The parents were estranged and the non-custodial father, Charles Rothenberg, fled with David in tow to California, but quickly decided that he could not care for David alone. However, rather than return David to his mother's care, the elder Rothenberg used kerosene to set fire to his son while the boy slept in a hotel room

    So Google...
    What the fuck do you classify as "Evil?"
     
  12. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    I think its funny how google enabled thier SSL 100% to try and fool people into a false sense of security... (Most think its safe)
     
  13. ClockworkPurple

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    We're getting to a point where it's better to just have nothing to hide than to try to hide anything. Information is only going to flow faster as time moves on.
     
  14. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    Yes and become harder to conceal :(
     
  15. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    lol its unbelievable how naive some people still are, they absolutely dont seem to understand how all information we give is used these days in any imaginable way...there is no more privacy unless you hide in a cave in the forest lol
     
  16. deleted

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    the only people that have something to hide are the governments and rapists.. basically the government..

    I smoke cannabis... Big fucking deal.. wanna see my pantie collection too?.
     
  17. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    If you smoke it only its no big deal but the producers and dealers...attention!
    People can loose their jobs also just for political oppinions or scientists for not believing in global warming for example. There are a lot more people in danger by this big spy system
     

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