Gun control!!

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by scratcho, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. thedope

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    I have no qualms about the way people live their lives, whether it be in regard for normalcy or through deviant experimentation. Smith and Wesson carries the same import as a well placed falling tree. I only address the answer to the problem. The problem being mans inhumanity to man. And more specifically it is the threat that inhumanity poses to all species. If we want it to end then we must adopt each other as purpose, in this world we live for and with each other. The world does not require our presence, but we require the presence of each other. Our requirements are only fully met when no one is left out.

    Thus far our learning has not has not been sufficient as no fortress, prison, or material success has kept us safe from unwanted intrusion. No one can intrude where they have been invited.
     
  2. FritzDaKatx2

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    No but the Death penalty does wonders in helping put a stop to repeat offenders.
     
  3. thedope

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    Perhaps. The offense is repeated regardless and the verdict is arbitrary in practice.

    To me the only meaningful change is fundamental. We can do better for each other.
     
  4. FritzDaKatx2

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    Well sure, but when you have a damaged faction of society running around and causing more damage to it, destroying families, again, all out of selfishness, drug addiction and simple malice,,, I can tell which of us will make Scotland first friend.
     
  5. Bent Cold Sidewalk

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    People control not gun control and by that I don't mean control them either!
     
  6. thedope

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    There is an idea that if you fight crime, it reduces crime, and this is true in a sporadic and unpredictable sense. But the treatment comes too late. How do disaffected people become that way, by and large they are denied at some point and feel their needs are not being met. The afflicted deserve our good attention not our disdain, but to give that attention requires we overcome our own aversions to that which is not pretty or comfortable. It is all too rare that someone put themselves in someone others shoes or go out on a limb for them because of the idea that they are just not worth it.

    Crime is a concept devised to account for unpleasant phenomena but without the concept of crime, there are no criminals.

    I don't understand the Scotland reference.
     
  7. Bent Cold Sidewalk

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    True about "justice" coming too late...if threatened I defend myself not waiting for the cops....I know that's not what you meant by that thought exactly...you're right people's minds need to change!
     
  8. Bent Cold Sidewalk

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    chasing the crime is like chasing the dragon. Meant to say.
     
  9. thedope

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    I think that everyone is equal to any virtue, that is we can take care of ourselves. I say the "treatment" comes too late, not justice. The justice system is not designed for justice but to mitigate fear. It does not work because fear has no face and is a liar.
     
  10. Bent Cold Sidewalk

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    You're right, justice is bullshit...just like spanking children.
     
  11. thedope

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    The party line is, it hurts me more than it hurts you.
    Certainly it is an effort by the parent to overcome their own difficulty, if they had resorted to violence.
     
  12. Bent Cold Sidewalk

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    I was told that shit...it pissed me off, I resented them, had no respect, just fear but craftiness to do what I wanted anyway.
     
  13. thedope

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    Yes, a wholly ambiguous and therefor meaningless, lesson.
     
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