Gun ownership itself is a slight mental illness

Criminals will always have weapons.

 

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Oh my dear Aeianne I’m sure you’ve been in enough gun debates to know that is a crap argument.

Go on please explain to us all how you think that argument holds up – go on – your time to shine

 

If America is a "Christian" nation then guns are wrong. Murder is wrong, revenge is wrong in this religion. You are to turn the other cheek and love. This is why it's odd to me that gun owners weave their view and Christianity together. Examine what Jesus said. He did not say you can should kill people who harm you.

Murder is sin. I've heard this sword BS many times. Jesus had a sword so for me a good Christian I need a AR to kill people. Somehow the sword cancels out the commandment do not kill. It's a perfect example of man perverting the message of religion.

If you like guns you must admit you care for them more then your own soul. Your hate and fear is so great you are not willing to feel the "light" as Christians would call it. America is a a atheist nation as far as goverment so go for that angle. It might work better. They look like hypocrites now.

What did Jesus mean by coming to bring a sword in Matthew 10:34-36? | GotQuestions.org

Answer: Matthew 10:34–36 describes Jesus telling the disciples that He came not to bring peace to the world, but a sword. Jesus’ sword was never a literal one. In fact, when Peter took up a sword to defend Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus rebuked him and told him to put away his sword, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword” (Matthew 26:52). Why then, did Jesus say, “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” What kind of sword did Jesus come to bring

 

I'm afraid lots of Christians missed that point, ever since the "Prince of Peace" became General Jesus under Constantine.

 

I don't have a desire to shine. You can have the spotlight. Go ahead and tell me how someone can talk you into giving over what they want, including your life, without a weapon, my dear Balbus.

 

When you think that Trump is the next Hitler, all his supporters are brown shirts, but demand he take away your guns and ability of self defense

 

Yes, when they come for us, we can head for the hills with our AR15s and survive on urine and deer's blood!

 

Who exactly are " they"?
The military or other LEO's? "They" all have loved ones, friends and neighbors in every nook and cranny of the country. " They" are not coming for anyone without a specific reason and warrant. Definitely not to confiscate firearms citizens are allowed to have by rights granted by our constitution.
If you'd enjoy living on urine and deer blood however, have at it

 

A lot of bullshit generalizations in that OP. I'm a gun owner and I'm not paranoid (neurotic maybe, but not paranoid) or mentally unstable. My dad was a cop and my mom was a tomboy. I've been shooting cans and targets since I was eight years old.

And while I don't live in constant fear that someone is going to break into my house and rape me, it does happen. Might as well be prepared to defend myself with a weapon I'm familiar with just in case the unlikely were to ever occur.

If that makes me a paranoid nutcase in your book, well, so be it. But remember: it's only in your book.

 

Ah, I thought my sacrasm was evident. Apparently, you never saw the Peckenpaw classic Red Dawn. I was replying to Six-eyed Shaman's suggestion that we need our guns to protect us from "Trump and his brown shirt supporters". Resistance is futile.

 

care to explain?

 

We have another DC Madam situation. Epstein has reportedly cashed in his chips, while in federal custody. Now he can't talk about Trump and the others … like Durshowitz.

 

Okie, Epstein just checked out.

 

Guns don't kill people, idiots do, which is why we keep making guns, because the marching morons are taking over! The zombie apocalypse is the Pentagon's fallback plan in case of invasion. Make the commies eat each other!

Screw guns and dogs, I'm building my own Terminator robot! I would just buy a cheap stealth cruise missile from South Africa and point it at the Pentagon, but they get upset when I apply for a licence. Some things you just have to do on your own. Hmmm, what can I make with a 3D printer....

 

People living in other countries are not in danger of this. No one has guns but police yet the "bad guys" are not taking everything. People have other ways to defend themselves and also a culture where since it's so hard to get guns even criminals don't have them. I know the NRA view is that only they suffer under gun control. It works both ways and I stand by my point.

If you accept the gun, you also accept you are not a Christian person. If you are fine with that go for it but many Americans are not.

 

Your perspective on Christians is interesting. If this idea of yours holds true, it would apply to any faith. And yet, nobody seems to want to attach it to Muslims, Jews or Tamils.

Really though, do you think you can win a shaming argument with a Christian over the ownership of a weapon? Remember your bible, "there's a time to fight, and a time to win". If not for weapons, no faith on the planet would survive tyranny. Not even Hindus. It's still a very hostile planet run by beings with primitive minds.

Also, guns are very easy to make. That genie was let out of the bottle centuries ago. Laws can't reverse that, it will require sweeping societal changes that will likely take decades. Trying to solve this by taking them away, will only reap the reaction you get when you take anything away from people who want it. Same as drugs, sex and chocolate!

 

So people who use guns to hunt are mentally ill? I don't understand anything in this thread.

 

You can easily make meth at home. So we should legalize meth since people can do it anyway? Kind of a silly argument. Ability to does not correlate with morals of a law. Often what is wrong is easy to do.

My interpretation of the Bible is an outsiders. I am not a Christian. I am not familer with the passage you cited and don't feel it overrides my linked Jesus passages. I'm not trying to shame anyone. If they feel that emotion it's their own fault and hints that I am right on a certain level. They know deep down that love and peace does not equal guns.

Know what happens when you are home (so you can get the gun) and someone breaks in? They run away. No need for the gun the conflict is over. If you are not home the gun's not helping. This is not OK for gun owners. If you break in they want to kill you, it's the punishment they crave. This is the wrong mindset. You are seeking conflict not avoiding it. You "wish a mother fucker would" as they say in rap.

 

The average intruder does not want murder. If you push it they will do it. I knew a boy growing up who lost his father when dad tried to be a cowboy. Had he not all they loose is a TV. This boy showed my my first gun and said I was a "girl" since I was so afraid of it. He told me his dad told him how to use it. I've also testified in a manslaughter/murder trial representing a friend who owned guns. This man killed his neighbor attempting to shoot someone else. He killed a WW2 vet who lived next door. A man who likely survived many Nazi rounds only do die an old man in his kitchen.

The 4 mass shootings in my area show me what happens with gun culture.

So, I guess overall I have some experience with when guns go bad. This is what forms my opinions. According to his lawyer my statement that I thought he was sane went a LONG way to him only getting involuntarily manslaughter not actual murder. The gun owner owes me more than they think. I'm not your enemy just logical.