HAARP - Anyone Familiar With This Technology?

About lightning: but if a tree is struck "just right", even a centuries old tree can be struck unto death.

 

My cousin in Nev says the chem trails are awful, and almost constantly visible. He also says HAARP could be the beginning of the end.

There is just no way the chem trails could be good...no matter how they spin it.

 

those are mostly normal contrails, the rich and powerful would not empoison themselves as well.

 

I remember being 3 (18 now) and the chem trails were still fairly new. Elders around me would bring me out to see them, 'cause they were as yet an oddity, not something you saw everyday. Now you can look up at any time and see 5 big streaks and a jet making another one; insanity. I've alo noticed that they've become thicker and more permanent; essentially, more cloudlike.

 

condensation trails exist since planes fly at high altitudes. Ask any old weather observers, they can confirm it. Google "condensation trails ww2"

 

This...^^^...



Cheers Glen.

 

lol as soon as midgardsun is against a conspiracy theory he gets important support from HF oh well...

 

I Couldn't Give A Rats Ass For Conspiracy Theories, I Simply Agreed Wholeheartedly

With Your Post...



Cheers Glen.

 

nikola tesla was one smart man.

 

There is an abundance of scientific evidence for chemtrails. Tests in soil and water reveal high metallic content and the use of banned substances.

Watch the film "What in the world are they spraying?" for a good summation of the facts.

I find it quite surprising that you seem to believe the moon landing was a hoax but you don't acknowledge chemtrails!

You can even find various pictures and short films showing materials recovered from chemtrail operations, including cobweb-like metallic particles, toxic bio-goo and fungal matter.

A vast array of evidence shows that they are not just condensation. I thought my friend was going crazy when he first told me about them but when I looked at the facts they spoke for themselves.

Also, chemtrails are not just emitted at high altitudes, they are exuded from planes flying at low, medium and high altitudes. The behaviour of a chemtrail is incredibly different to the behaviour of a condensation trail.

 

In Louisiana on the 29th July where a BP representative is confronted by the public who explain that they are still getting sick and BP is still covertly dumping Corexit into the sea at night.
Corexit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corexit
the U.S. gov. does not care about its people.

 

so we dont agree on that theorie. Its just that I am a passionate stormchaser and sky watcher, I classify the clouds and the weather since almost 20 years.
Condensation trails are an important part of my daily cloud observations since their appearance tells a lot about the weather to come. Always, they anounce moist, often cooler air beaches at high altitudes where the head of a warm front arrives. Their shape shows instability befor stormy weather when they have little proteburances that grow as humidity and instability increase. When they dissolve that means that the air gets dryer and more stable at that altitude.
I saw many fascinating facettes of contrails but NEVER in my live I saw a contrail that seemed to be other than airplane exhaust.
From observing the skies very closely in all the time, I can tell if a cloud contains water, undercooled water (altocumulus often) or ice (cirrus, cumulonimbus) or something else.
Even the blue sky is never the same, every day- the color combination of the blue is different if you pay attention.
Sorry but I never saw a chemtrail in my life neither have the older meteorologists I have spent time cloud observation or stormchasing with.
My teacher in cloud observation and classification was an old swiss meteorologist who still saw warm fronts arrive with their propper cirrus (high level cloud) shields in advance with almost no contrails which is impossible now due to all the airplanes.

 

You know, I have always been amazed at people who speak with authority while they are giving their version of alleged "facts" that are completely incorrect! It is not about agreeing or disagreeing when the subject is "Chemtrails." Chemtrails are most definitely spewed out of certain airplanes, and it is quite
simple to discern the difference between a Chemtrail and a
"Contrail." So, you're right when you say that you have "never seen a Chemtrail in your life;" because if you had, you would not claim with such erroneous authority that they don't exist!

A contrail is a vapor trail that dissipates rapidly and one can observe that within minutes, the trail disappears. Conversely, a Chemtrail does not dissipate - it doesn't disappear. It will very gradually spread out and ultimately develop the formation and appearance of an elongated odd looking quasi-cloud.

MustLiveLife is right on target in his explanation of what Chemtrails are; and his information is accurate and in is complete alignment with my research on Chemtrails thus far. I, too, have a friend who brought Chemtrails to my attention several years ago - so I started watching. And researching. And watching.
My conclusion is that they are for real, sadly. MustLiveLife is correct as well, about the particulates that are coming down out of the chemtrails. It's nothing nice, and it is just another shining example of how fu#ked our government has become, because they are clearly putting us all in harm's way.

Midgardsun - I'm certainly inclined to believe you when you say
that you have seen "many facets of contrails but never in your life have you seen a contrail that seemed to be other than airplane exhaust" ......... that's because you were observing a contrail - NOT a Chemtrail! Do you get me, Sweetheart?!

Stormchasing; blue skies some days/a different blue other days;
and older meteorologists don't really confirm whether or not Chemtrails are a real phenomenon or not. I'll be gracious and give you the benefit of the doubt that perhaps you are one of the lucky ones and reside in an area where they don't do the Chemtrail thing. In that event, you are most blessed and should count your lucky stars. For information on them, pull up a very interesting-looking site at www.healthfreedom.com. Although I haven't reviewed in it's entirety, it looks pretty informative.

Please understand Midgardsun, that I do not seek to offend you;
it just really rubs me the wrong way when folks make statements that are incorrect with authority. Because, in a forum such as this, there is the possibility that some uninformed people could believe you - and then they would have the wrong information as well - no good. It would behoove you to be open-minded and hear what we have said and go check it out for yourself. Knowledge is a good thing.

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condensation trails
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrail

How do condensation trails behave?
When the air in altitude is dry, not saturated, then the water vapor trails of an airplane are not visible or disappear short after.
When the air in front of a warm front for example is saturated with water, without yet forming a cloud due to lack of condensation cores, then the gas from an airplane will simply CONDENSE to form an artificial cloud, the CONTRAIL.
So you dont wrtie about the simple process of CONDENSATION IN SATURATED AIR which produces lasting cloud traces (contrails).

You will NEVER see a contrail when the air around 8-12000m is DRY.

You will ALWAYS and ONLY see contrails when the upper air layer is HUMIDE.

Show me any picture of contrails with the corresponding meteorological situation and I can show and explain to you the humidity in that area corresponding to a warm front or other reason to have high levels of humidity there at the moment of observation.

Show me any picture of a sky WITHOUT contrails and I can explain to you meteorologically that the air at that altitude is DRY.

I bet you any amount of money that you will NEVER find me an example of contrails in dry air.

I bet you any amount of money that you will NEVER find me an example of moist air with airplanes at that altitude that dont leave a contrail.

 

Here an example from our weather forum: Feb7,2011

here you see contrails which become visible as an artificial cloud since the air at that altitude consists is humid and saturated and therefore the vapour exhaust of the airplanes condenses and stays visible. Then the strong winds at that altitude blow the contrails along the wind profile.



The corresponding map shows a depression close to Ireland and a strong south westerly circulation which transports in advance loads of humidity in the upper air layers (since warm air is lighter than cool air and arrives in the higher air layers first. This moist upper air layer is slightly instable thats why the contrail devellops into cumuliform elements combined to the patterns of the winds at that altitude. Those clouds consist of ice crystals, mostly little plates. When you see optic phenomenons like HALOS then the ice crystals corresponding are little plates AND the wind doesnt change direction (cisaillement) too much.

 

Why would planes fly around in various directions? Generally planes go from A to B, right? Why does the same plane sometimes double back on itself to make the classic tic-tac-toe pattern, or the X pattern? Why can you sometimes see 2 planes in the same sky at roughly the same altitude, one not leaving a trail of any kind and one spewing out a trail that dissipates into a cloud that covers the sky? Where the hell is all this aluminium and barium in the soil and water coming from?

AND WHY ARE THERE A TEAM OF SCIENTISTS WHO ADMIT TO THIS HAPPENING UNDER THE NAME OF GEOENGINEERING?

YES, THAT'S RIGHT, IT'S NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY, THEY'VE COME OUT AND SAID THEY'RE DOING IT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_radiation_management See Atmospheric Projects - Reflective Aerosols or dust. Although most of this appears to be bullshit because they suggest that the aluminium and barium titanate technique was only conceived a year ago. Scientific evidence says otherwise. Again, view the film "What In the World Are They Spraying?" for a synopsis of the facts and interviews with several respected scientific individuals. I believe the film was made in March 2010 but there are earlier films, such as "Aerosol Crimes" made in 1998.

Geoengineering patents were taken out by Hughes Aircraft, the Department of Defense, and Raytheon (which acquired the aerospace and defense operations of Hughes in 1997). The date on the patent is March 26, 1991.

Last Summer where I live (central UK) I watched time and time again from my back garden as planes would start on the horizon and leave lines and grids all above me until they were on the opposite horizon. The lines and grids would soon dissipate into a low level, featureless grey could layer. There's no fucking way a vapour contrail does that. No. Fucking. Way.

I chose this video so you'd have an easier time understanding it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpEcHya7Jk&feature=related"]Chemtrails - YouTube

 

No, that makes no sense at all.

Stop looking for complex scientifically impossible conspiracies where there are none, and ignoring the obvious ones.

Weather is less predictable and more brutal/unfriendly now because the government and their oil cronies are destroying the world to get rich, and when we run out of oil and have an unstable planet full of hurricanes and tropical storms and the like, they'll break out the windmills and solar cells, and brag about saving the planet by being sustainable. They just have to rape the planet of all the money they can first.

*edit* mustlivelife, yes.... that's what vapor trails do. If the air's humid, the contrail stays, and will eventually deform into a cloud layer if you life in an area with a lot of flights.

There's no reason to spray aluminium or barium or anything else, and there's all sorts of reasons for them to be found everywhere..... I assume you know that you can analyze the soil and see what layer contains the elevated lead from early modern smelting, and what layer contains aincent roman smelting? This is all over the world too, not near rome.... rome polluted north america, asia, probably the poles... Simply having minerals in the soil proves nothing about "chemtrails".

Fly in an airplane.... even a private one... if you bank, you may well see your own contrail. You can also see the vapor trails from areas such as wing tips, which simply cause pressure changes that cause a little condensation, when there's obviously no "chemtrail" nozzle.

Also, if they where spraying something, why wouldn't you see it directly behind the jet, instead of the distance you'd expect for water vapor to condense?

I'm quite amazed that midguard doesn't believe in "chemtrails".... kudos for that.

 

so I suppose those airplanes were at Cirrus level which means that the H2O from the airplanes turned into ice immediately. Then you describe that these tiny ice plates formed a lower cloud layer (grey) which indicates (undercooled) water. This is something impossible in meteorology. You will never in your life observe Cirrus (ice) clouds transforming into lower water clouds. The Cirrus can only precipitate and evaporate to form Cirrus virga. And there you almost always need some cumuliforme developpement of the Cirrus.
When injecting artificial condensation grains into a layer of Altocumulus (undercooled water mostly) you can make the Altocumulus precipitate ice crystals to form Altocumulus virga. The famous "hole punch clouds" are created that way sometimes when an airplane flies through an undercooled Altocumulus but there as well, The Ac will only precipitate ice (virga) which evaporates normally quickly. Exceptions are extremely rare.
The problem is that many meteorologists confuse Altocumulus with Cirrocumulus- to tell with certitude the exact heigth of either Altocumulus or elevated Altocumulus and low Cirrocumulus takes some years of practise in cloud observations.
Contrails appear only at high level and never at Altocumulus level.
When an airplane flies through an extended Altocumulus it can leave DISTRAILS which are zones where the exhaust of the airplane makes the undercooled water dropplets freeze and precipitate, leaving dissipation trails which are quite rare to observe.

 

Wait, so you see a cloud with lines of clear through it?

That sounds really fucking cool....

 

In this picture I found, you can see a nice distrail, created by an airplane which flies through a thin layer of Altocumulus. The injected condensation grains make the water droppelets freeze and precipitate immediately into Altocumulus virga towards the center of the trail. The layer of Altocumulus consists therefore of undercooled water wich doesnt freeze as a lack of condensation grains.