Happy 21'st birthday from the cops!

Yeah a huge group of my old friends got busted for opening the door. Except for my friend Russ who hid in the dryer for 6 hours. Hahaha, his back was so sore the next day.

Another story that blew me away was that these three guys were in an apartment and they were smoking and doing mdma. they had the music really loud and got a complaint. Well a cop showed up but the owner of the apartment knew to not let him him. So he turned down the music and the cop went away. He only went away after 10 minutes of the guy saying he wouldn't let him in because his apartment was dirty. Then about 5 minutes later they hear really loud banging on the door and they are all a little freaked out. the owner goes up to the door and ask who it is. Its some guy in a hoodie and asks "can I come in"? So the owner asked if he was a cop and the guy said yes. hahaha. So the owner didn't let him in, of course, and then the cop gets mad and keeps banging on the door. The guy's in the apt. are freaked out because he is harrassing them. they end up calling the cops on this cop for harrassment. Then they call the owners father to come down. Well He eventually was forced to leave and they were fine. That would have scared the shit out of me.

Good luck man.

 

yep. If a cop doesn't have a warrant, and keeps 'demanding entry', so long as you haven't opened the door to him, then you can have him picked up like that.

I've gotten local cops disciplined for harassing behavior. For example, I've been followed for 16 blocks at 11 pm by a cop car. No operating lights at all. No headlights, nothing. Following less than a foot off my back bumper, to taco bell and back. When I pulled into taco bell, I noted the car number, and once I got home, I called the PD and filed a complaint, then went down and signed off on it. The chief knows me personally, and is convinced I'm a 'good egg' so the entire force (20 guys) had to go back through their driving certifications for that one guy's actions. He left for another town soon after. If you know your rights, and go by-the-book when dealing with them, you can easily wind up as someone they want to avoid if they want to keep their job trouble-free.

In my experience, a majority of cops might be obnoxious gits, but a good portion of them are schmucks just doing their job, and like most people, do a 'good enough to get by' job. Now occasionally you'll find a zealot or someone fishing for a promotion, in that case, it's 'hard luck' because they'll find a way to screw you.

A lot of cops, if they don't seem too tightly wound, can be reasoned with.

Had one stop me while I was a pedestrian and much younger and more stupid, by invoking 'probable cause' (I was dressed in dark colors, had long hair and carried a backpack. going home from school) He tried to give me a bit of crap about how since I was a minor, I could be searched at any point, because I couldn't consent or deny a search. So I told him he'd have to contact my parent and get THEIR permission to search me unless he had a warrant. He told me he was going to detain me, and I asked him what I was being charged with. He said the famous words 'I'll find something'. I asked him what he'd used to invoke probable cause, and if he REALLY wanted to fill out the paperwork. He told me that I'd been seen with a container of a green substance. I reached into my backpack, pulled out a jar of oregano and handed it to him with the words 'I'm in home ec, and I'm a food geek. Is that a crime?' He handed the jar back and told me to go home. He didn't know that in the bottom of my bag was another jar, looked just like it, but with a screwtype (not the fliptype that I'd handed him) lid that was holding a substantial amount of weed.

He let me go because I'd made it clear that I knew my rights, and was going to make it more trouble than I was worth under the guise of being totally cooperative.

On a side note, I've never been stopped while wearing a suit. Only if I look like I 'might' be a criminal element.

 

I know a lot of rights that I have, but is there any way to find them out by a good source? Like maybe a book or something of that nature? I plan on going on the road in a year and I want to know my rights.

 

(chuckles) Go to your local LEOs, and tell them that you're going to be traveling about, and you'd like references so that you can know your rights, as you'd like to be an 'informed, conscientious citizen'. Go in straight and clean, and really 'believe' (even just for a short amount of time) that you're interested in living the straight, legal pabulum of american life. It's called social engineering, and with learning that, you can go very far. If you've got a record, tell them that you're interested in making a fresh start elsewhere, and you'd like to really make sure that your past doesn't haunt you. Usually they'll refer you to a local law library.

If you're uncomfortable with the idea of walking into the LEOs den, go to your local college, and pick up one of the criminal justice course books.

 

I have no record and I only do psychedelic mushrooms once a year...so I have nothing to fear. What is an LEO haha?

 

LEO- Law enforcement Officer
Leo- french for lion (apt enough, due to the blind ferocity some of the cops display)

If you ask right, and can act straight enough, you might be able to pick up some old/outdated material from the academy as well, if you can pretend enough of an interest in being a LEO yourself.

If you go the college route, just do the same as i advised earlier and just ask him in addition to the coursebook, what a good reference manual would be.

 

and here's a general information website

http://www.flexyourrights.org/frequently_asked_questions

 

I'm not sure why some of you guys keep saying "you didn't have to let them in", or "unless they have a warrant they can't come in". He opened the door because he thought his fricken delicious pizza was at the door. The cops had every right (as much as it may suck) to come in after they saw the bong/weed stuff.

 

As soon as he opened the door haha. Yeah I agree with the fact that no one would check to see if it was cops at the door if Pizza was on the way.

 

Sorry man, that really sucks.

 

Yeah, I missed the pizza. Ugh, and I'm usually so detail oriented.

 

Move to Canada brah. If someone calls the cops because you are smoking weed the cops will just laugh at them.