hare krishna

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by sleeping jiva, May 8, 2004.

  1. BlackBillBlake

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    Hare Krishna!

    I've found a couple of pictures of Sri Krishnaprem, and I thought I'd post them here along with a poem about him by Dillip Kumar Roy.

    Sri Krishnaprem.

    Sons of an intellectual age, we scan
    And weigh the heart's findings with our intellectual measures,
    Surmising never once that no mind can
    Win even a clue to the soul's resplendent treasures.

    The more we probe the more must thought mislead
    Till even the meaning of our spirit's birth
    Is buried in the din of words that plead
    For the reign of trifling truths of temporal worth.

    You diagnosed this fatal malady
    With an insight born of loyalty to love
    And so disowned our reasoned revelry
    Whose dire dischord your heart could never approve.

    O Reason's elect, withal, a citizen
    Of stellar climes no mind has ever trod:
    Who saw your radiant Face could never again
    Doubt faith's deep power of leading us back to God.

    D.K.Roy.​
     
  2. ChiefCowpie

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    BBB, Sri Krishna Prem looks most most saintly and gentle... he is very beautiful... most obvious that Radha and Krishna have taken shelter in his heart.

    108,000 - 109 = 107,891

    only 107,891 pages until we get to page 108,000
     
  3. Kharakov

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    Sets out for us to do, not puts in to us.
    So a 'mechanical conveyer belt' built by God leads us into understanding our true relation to God. Still entirely dependant upon God.

    Yup.
    If what God does causes anger to arise within God's creation, this is a flaw in God's ability to act without producing anger, unless this anger is aroused on purpose. Your claim means God is flawed and cannot create us without sometimes causing us to identify with the 'lower' part of our being (becoming angry). I claim God sometimes chooses to cause us to identify with the lower part of our being to fulfill God's purpose in perfecting the 'lower' part of our being.
    Maybe people are not aware of serving God's purpose, but they are.
     
  4. BlackBillBlake

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    It is not God but the material world and our mode of consciousness that is flawed. The reactions of karma may eventually lead to some connection to God - no doubt that eventually, everyone is going back to Him - but yoga is a means to speed up this process.

    The idea that 'what God does causes anger to arise in God's creation' must obviously be true in one sense, but anger and so on are like perverse reflections of something that exists in God, as is this whole world. It is said to be Krishna's separated material energy - it is not that this world is integrated fully in Him.

    What you say about 'God causing us to identify with the lower being... to fulfil God's purpose in perfecting the lower part of our being' - is probably quite correct, in the sense of a Divine influence gradually evolving a higher level of perfection here in the world. However, only if one has an inner consciousness of God and is seeking to work towards first of all one's own perfection, can this really be true. Otherwise, people just serve their own egoistic desires, puppets of unseen forces that are constantly acting upon them, compelling them to actions that do nothing to bring about any positive change on a meaningful level.

    Nothing can exist for an instant without Him. Nothing can be done without His support. But usually, human beings are not aware of this - they act as though they were independent, they focus on external things and temporary goals, and never give any time to God. Hence they are not aware of God or of any Divine action whether aimed at their individual liberation, collective planetary evolution, or both. Yoga is the means to become aware. In this case, with Sri Krishna, the emphasis is on Bhakti, devotion and love, but there are other forms of yoga.

    The point about people serving God's purpose without knowing it is also true - Krishna Himself tells Arjuana that all beings follow His path in all respects. But there is a huge difference between a conscious and an unconscious instrument of His purpose! Surrender to Krishna means just that - to seek to become a conscious servant of His will. Not a puppet in the hands of unconscious forces.

    Hare Krishna!
     
  5. BlackBillBlake

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    Chief, thats just what I felt too! :) He is truly a radiant being.

    Hare Krishna!

    Om Shanti!
     
  6. Kharakov

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    Awesome.
     
  7. sleeping jiva

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    Well said BBB! WE must get out of Krishna's material energies. And He wants us. If we were completely dependent on Him, we wouldn't enjoy our love to Him. This is basicaly the reason why we suffer. We must understand our true position.
     
  8. sleeping jiva

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    I just found a huge collections of films of Srila Prabhupada on the net! They're free to donwload and in quite high quality!!! go check it out, I'm just downloading the 4th part. Prabhupada dancing at some festival jumping like a youngster -it's worth watching!

    Jay Prabhupada!
     
  9. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    They are very lovely...and everyone is soo happy in them...

    Here's the link...btw....lol...

    http://www.audarya-fellowship.com/showflat/cat/websites/75340/0/collapsed/5/o/1

    :) Hare Krishna!
     
  10. sleeping jiva

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    i'm sorry I forgot the link!!! haha
     
  11. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    lol....that's ok...we still love you!!! :) :)

    Hare Krishna!
     
  12. sleeping jiva

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    Please, love Krishna instead, who am I ? just a poor man in hands of maya
     
  13. Kharakov

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    The maya of D.C. smoked crack.
     
  14. ChiefCowpie

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    good point kharakov, which is why one doesn't wanna remain a poor man in the hands of the maya of D. C. so one too doesn't end up smoking crack
     
  15. Kharakov

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    I have smoked a bunch of crack, basically because I had faith that God brought it to me. After a bit, I got sick of the lifestyle. I guess being a crackhead isn't my calling (or all its cracked up to be). I would have noided if I didn't know God was with me when I was involved in that scene. All in all, the spiritual rush is Good too, and it comes without a price tag.
     
  16. BlackBillBlake

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    Hare Krishna!

    Dear Kharakov,

    A lot of people have problems with hard drugs. Its good that you are coming away from that scene. I hope God will give you stregnth to stay away from it.
    With the 'spiritual rush' there's no price tag in money - its a matter just of being sincere. Krishna sees what is in our hearts. And there's no price to be paid in health terms.
    Drugs like Cocaine, Heroin etc don't really take one closer to God. They induce a temporary and artificial happiness, sense of confidence, and so on. And when it wears off, one is plumetted back down into all the negatives - only with the added social & other problems they bring. But I'm not trying to lecture anyone on drugs - I'm sure that isn't necessary.
    I just want to wish you Krishna's grace and blessings.
     
  17. ChiefCowpie

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  18. sleeping jiva

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    does he serves Krishna?
     
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    Residents of Nabadwip Dham, locally called "night-birds": Fruit-eating flying dogs.

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    Typical farm-house at Ekachakra, Sri Nitai's appearance place.

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