hare krishna

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  1. gdkumar

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    Hare Krishna!


    The message of Savitri :


    The Mighty Mother shall take birth in Time
    And God be born into the human clay
    In forms made ready by your human lives.
    Then shall the Truth supreme be given to men...
    The superman shall wake in mortal man
    And manifest the hidden demi-god
    Or grow into the God-Light and God-Force
    Revealing the secret deity in the cave....
    Annulling the decree of death and pain,
    Erasing the formulas of the Ignorance....
    Ruling earth-nature by eternity's law....

    Life's tops shall flame with the immortal's thoughts,
    Light shall invade the darkness of its base,

    When superman is born as Nature's king
    His presence shall transfigure Matter's world:
    He shall light up Truth's fire in Nature's night,
    He shall lay upon the earth Truth's greater law;
    Man too shall turn towards the Spirit's call.

    A divine force shall flow through tissue and cell
    And take the charge of breath and speech and act
    And all the thoughts shall be a glow of suns
    And every feeling a celestial thrill...
    Nature shall live to manifest secret God,
    The spirit shall take up the human play,
    This earthly life become the life divine.
    ........From Savitri by Sri Aurobindo.

    The great Rishi said it all.


    Love,

    Kumar.
     
  2. gdkumar

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    Hare Krishna!


    Dear Friends,


    The following is part of a letter from Sri Aurobindo to His disciple Dadaji. Hope you will like it and will be inspired in your spiritual quest . This is taken from the book "Sri Aurobindo Came To Me " by Sri Dilip Kumar Roy(Dadaji).

    " Dilip, I wrote to you all that in answer to your statement about your former idea of the Yoga that if one wanted the Divine, the Divine himself would take up the purifying of the heart and develop the sadhana and give the necessary experiences. I meant to say that it can and does happen in that way if one has trust and confidence in the Divine and the genuine will to surrender. For such a taking up involves one's putting oneself in the hands of the Divine rather than trusting to one's own efforts alone and this implies one's putting one's trust and confidence in the Divine and a progressive self-giving. It is in fact the principle of sadhana that I myself followed and it is the central part of Yoga as I envisage it. It is, I suppose, what Sri Ramakrishna meant by the method of the baby cat in his image. But all cannot follow that at once : it takes time fore them to arrive at it- it grows most when the mind and the vital fall quiet."


    With love,

    KUmar.
     
  3. BlackBillBlake

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    Thanks Kumar for those two great quotes!

    If anyone wants to check it out, the whole of 'Savitri'. Sri Aurobindo's visionary epic poem can be found along with commentary and readings at:

    http://www.savitribysriaurobindo.com/

    I also have on file some comments by Sweet Mother in which she gives some explanation of the opening part of the poem. If anyone would like to view these, pm me your email and I'll send them to you. I don't know if they are available online at present.


    Hare Krishna!
     
  4. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Trust and confidence in the divine, with the realisation that the divine is teasing you half the time. :p

    Youth of delight! come hither
    And see the opening morn,
    Image of Truth new-born.
    Doubt is fled, and clouds of reason,
    Dark disputes and artful teazing.
    Folly is an endless maze;
    Tangled roots perplex her ways;
    How many have fallen there!
    They stumble all night over bones of the dead;
    And feel--they know not what but care;
    And wish to lead others, when they should be led.
     
  5. ChiefCowpie

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    Healing Through Faith and Love - A Case Study of Sri Ramakrishna
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    It is a little known fact that actors in Bengali theatre, prior to entering the stage, bow down before the image of an unshaved, rustic-looking, middle-aged man, who is now unofficially the patron deity of all dramatic performance in the region. It becomes all the more intriguing when we realize that the gentleman in question was an unlettered individual who was never formally related to theatre and saw only a few plays during his
    own lifetime.

    Illustration: http://www.exoticindia.com/artimages/ramakrishna.jpg

    The story of how this came to be about begins on February 28, 1844, with the birth of a boy named Girish at Calcutta. Girish lost his mother when he was eleven and his father at fourteen.
    From his boyhood, he was a voracious reader but left school since he found the formal atmosphere detrimental to the process of learning. Without the restraining hand of a loving guardian, Girish's life drifted into drunkenness, debauchery, waywardness
    and obstinacy. He had to earn his living through a succession of office jobs, which he found thoroughly boring. His spare time was devoted to the theatre, both as playwright and performer. He was, in fact, a bohemian artist. An early marriage proved unable to
    stabilize his lifestyle and his wife passed away when he was thirty. Thus did he lose his mother in childhood, father in boyhood and wife in early manhood.

    For the next fifteen years he worked in various capacities in different offices. He continued to indulge his appetites but also remained devoted to writing and acting. In his late thirties, he had already begun to be recognized as the father of modern
    Bengali drama. He was single-handedly revitalizing the revival of theatre by producing a vast body of dramatic work in the Bengali language, and at the same time was molding the first generation of actors and actresses by leading from the front; in fact, such
    was his versatility that he often played two or three roles in the same play. In 1883, the Star Theatre was opened in Calcutta with his money; this later developed into an active center for the evolution of Bengali drama.

    In Girish's case, talent and licentiousness gradually achieved a state of peaceful co-existence. He himself sized up his personality as follows: 'from my early boyhood I was molded in a different way. I never learned to walk a straight path. I always
    preferred a crooked way. From childhood it had been my nature to do the very thing I was forbidden to do.'

    Illustration: http://www.exoticindia.com/artimages/girish.jpg

    Skepticism

    The course of Girish's tumultuous life continued till he read one day about a holy personality who was living in the famous shrine of Goddess Kali (Dakshineshwar) near Calcutta.

    Illustration: http://www.exoticindia.com/artimages/dakshineswar.jpg

    A skeptical Girish, without ever having met the sage, concluded that he was probably a fake. However, soon after he heard that the guru would be visiting his neighborhood and decided to see him firsthand. It was nearing sunset when Girish reached the
    place, and lamps were being brought into the room. Yet the ascetic kept asking, "Is it evening?" This confirmed Girish's earlier opinion, 'what pretentious play-acting, it is dusk, lights are burning in front of him, yet he cannot tell whether it is evening or not' thus murmuring under his breath and not recognizing the saint's super conscious stage, he left the premises. Thus was the first impression of Girish Chandra Ghosh,
    the father of modern Bengali theatre, regarding Sri Ramakrishna, the beloved saint and priest of one of India's most renowned Kali temples.

    Illustration: http://www.exoticindia.com/artimages/paramhansa.jpg

    Some years later, Girish saw the holy man again, at the house of a common acquaintance. In his own words: 'after reaching there, I found that the sage had already arrived and a dancing girl was seated by his side and singing devotional hymns. Quite a large gathering had assembled in the room. Suddenly my eyes were opened to a new vision by the holy man's conduct. I used to think that those who consider themselves param-yogis or gurus do not speak with anybody. They do not salute anybody. If strongly urged they allow others to serve them. But his behavior was quite different.

    With the utmost humility he was showing respect to everybody by bowing his head on the ground. An old friend of mine, pointing at him, said sarcastically: "The dancing girl seems to have a previous intimacy with him. That's why he is laughing and joking with her." But I did not like these insinuations. Just then, another of my friends said, "I have had enough of this, let's go."' Girish went with him. He had half wanted to stay, but was
    too embarrassed to admit this, even to himself.

    Lessons in Humility

    Only a few days after this, on September 21, 1884, the saint and some of his devotees visited the Star Theatre, to see a play based on the life of the great Vaishnava devotee Shri Chaitanya, authored and directed by Girish. The latter reminisced: 'I was strolling in the outer compound of the theatre one day when a disciple of Sri Ramakrishna came up to me and said: "The guru has come to see the play. If you will allow him a free pass, well and good. Otherwise we will buy a ticket for him." I replied: "He will not have to purchase the ticket. But others will have to." Saying this, I proceeded to greet him. I found him alighting from the carriage and entering the compound of the theatre. I wanted to salute him, but before I could do so he saluted me. I returned his greeting. He saluted me again. I bowed my head and he did the same to me. I thought this might continue forever, so I let him perform the last salute (which I answered mentally) and led him upstairs to his seat in the box.'

    This was Girish's third meeting with Ramakrishna; but his intellect continued to refuse to accept another human being as a guru. This is how he reasoned: 'after all, the guru is a man. The disciple also is a man. Why should one man stand before another
    with folded palms and follow him like a slave? But time after time in the presence of Sri Ramakrishna my pride crumbled into dust. Meeting me at the theatre, he had first saluted me. How could my pride remain in the presence of such a humble man? The
    memory of his humility created an indelible impression on my mind.'

    Three days later, Girish was sitting on the porch of a friend's house when he saw Ramakrishna approaching along the street: 'No sooner had I turned my eyes towards him than he saluted me. I returned it. He continued on his way. For no accountable reason my heart felt drawn towards him by an invisible string. I felt a strong urge to follow him. Just then, a person brought to me a message from him and said: "Sri Ramakrishna is calling you." I went. He was seated with a number of devotees around him. As soon as I sat down I asked the following question:

    "What is a guru?"

    "A guru is like the matchmaker who arranges for the union of the bride with his bridegroom. Likewise a guru prepares for the meeting of the individual soul with his beloved, the Divine Spirit." Actually, Sri Ramakrishna did not use the word
    matchmaker, but a slang expression, which left a more forceful impression. Then he said: "You need not worry, your guru has already been chosen."

    Girish, however, was a complex personality: a mixture of shyness, aggression, humility and arrogance. Although in one corner of his heart he did believe that Ramakrishna was the guru who he had hoped for, another part of his old self revolted against the idea. On December 14th of the same year, the playwright was in his dressing room when a devotee came up to inform him of Ramakrishna's arrival. "All right," Girish said rather haughtily, "take him to the box and give him a seat."

    "But won't you come and receive him personally?" The devotee asked.

    "What does he need me for? " said the annoyed Girish. Nevertheless, he followed the disciple downstairs. At the sight of Ramakrishna's peaceful countenance Girish's mood changed. He not only escorted the saint upstairs but also bowed down before
    him and touched his feet. Later Girish said: 'seeing his serene and radiant face, my stony heart melted. I rebuked myself in shame, and that guilt still haunts my memory. To think that I had refused to greet this sweet and gentle soul! Then I conducted him
    upstairs. There I saluted him touching his feet. Even now I do not understand the reason, but at that moment a radical change came over me and I was a different man.'

    The Transforming Power of Faith

    'Soon he started conversing with me. He spoke of several things while I listened longingly. I felt a spiritual current passing, as it were, through my body from foot to head and head to foot. All of a sudden Sri Ramakrishna lost outer consciousness and went into ecstasy, and in that mood he started talking with a young devotee. Many years earlier I had heard some slandering remarks against him, made by a very wicked man. I remembered those words, and at that moment his ecstasy broke and his mood changed. Pointing towards me, he said, "There is some crookedness in your heart." I thought, 'Yes indeed. Plenty of it - of various kinds.

    " But I was at loss to understand which kind he was particularly referring to. I asked, "How shall I get rid of it?" "Have faith," Shri Ramakrishna replied.

    Illustration: http://www.exoticindia.com/artimages/samadhi.jpg

    On another occasion when Ramakrishna offered Girish a spiritual discourse, the latter stopped him short saying: "I won't listen to any advice. I have written cartloads of it myself. It doesn't help. Do something that will transform my life." Girish had a writer's skepticism about the authority of the written word.
    Ramakrishna was highly pleased to hear his view and asked a disciple to sing a particular song whose words went like this:
    "Go into solitude and shut yourself in a cave.
    Peace is not there. Peace is where faith is,
    for faith is the root of all."
    At that moment Girish felt himself cleansed of all impurities and doubts: 'my arrogant head bowed low at his feet. In him I had found my sanctuary and all my fear was gone.'

    Girish's faith however required constant strengthening; years of suffering and torment had damaged it severely. In a later meeting he again directed the question to Ramakrishna:

    "Will the crookedness of my heart go?"

    "Yes it will go."

    Girish repeated the question and received the same reply. The process was replayed twice until one of the other disciples reprimanded Girish: "Enough. He has already answered you. Why do you bother him again?" The theatre veteran turned towards the
    devotee to rebuke him since no one who dared criticize him ever escaped the lash of his tongue. But he controlled himself thinking: 'my friend is right. He who does not believe when told once will not believe even if he is told a hundred times.'

    Venerating with Poison

    One night, while Girish was in a brothel with two of his friends, he felt a sudden desire to see Ramakrishna. Despite the lateness of the hour he and his friends hired a carriage to Dakshineshwar. They were very drunk and everyone was asleep. But when the three tipsily staggered into Ramakrishna's room, he received them joyfully. Going into ecstasy, he grasped both of Girish's hands and began to sing and dance with him.

    The dramatist thus described his feelings: 'here is a man whose love embraces all -
    even a wicked man like me, whose own family would condemn me in this state. Surely, this holy man, respected by the righteous, is also the savior of the fallen.'

    Girish, however, was not always so pleasant when drunk. Once at the theatre he publicly abused Ramakrishna, using the coarsest and most brutal words. All those present were shocked and advised the sage to sever all links with the playwright.

    It is interesting to read what Girish himself says about this incident:

    'Although I had come to regard Sri Ramakrishna as my very own, the scars of past impressions were not so easily healed. One day, under the influence of liquor, I began to abuse him in most unutterable language. The devotees of the master grew furious and were about to punish me, but he restrained them. Abuse continued to flow from my lips in a torrent. Sri Ramakrishna kept quiet and silently returned to Dakshineshwar. There was no remorse in my heart. As a spoiled child may carelessly berate his father, so did I abuse him without any fear of punishment. Soon my behavior became common gossip, and I began to realize my mistake. But at the same time I had so much faith in his love, which I felt to be infinite, that I did not for a moment fear that Sri Ramakrishna
    could ever desert me.'

    A common friend reminded Ramakrishna of the story of the serpent Kaliya, who, while battling Krishna, spewed enormous quantities of venom and said: "Lord you have given me only poison, where shall I get the nectar to worship you?" Similarly, Girish too had
    worshipped Ramakrishna with abuse, which was in accordance with his nature.

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    Ramakrishna smiled and immediately asked for a carriage to go to Girish's house, where he found the latter repentant. Seeing the guru, Girish was overwhelmed. He said, "Master if you had not come today, I would have concluded that you had not attained that supreme state of knowledge where praise and blame are equal, and
    that you could not be called a truly illumined soul."

    On another occasion Ramakrishna had told Girish: "You utter many abusive and vulgar words; but that doesn't matter. It's better for these things to come out. There are some people who fall ill on account of blood poisoning; the more the poisoned blood finds an outlet, the better it is for them. You too will be purer by the day. In fact, people will marvel at you."
     
  6. ChiefCowpie

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    Binding Through Freedom

    One night, Girish drank himself into unconsciousness at the house of a prostitute. In the morning, he hastened to visit Ramakrishna. He was full of remorse but had not neglected to bring a bottle of wine with him in the carriage. On arriving at Dakshineshwar, he wept repentantly and embraced Ramakrishna's feet. Then, suddenly, he felt in urgent need of drink, and discovered, to his dismay, that the carriage had already driven off. But presently a smiling Ramakrishna produced not only the bottle, but Girish's shoes and scarf as well; he had privately asked a devotee to bring them from the carriage before it left.
    Girish could not control himself; he drank shamelessly before them all - and, having done so, was again remorseful. "Drink to your heart's content" Ramakrishna told him, "It won't be for much longer." Girish said later that this was the beginning his abstention from intoxicating drinks. But the abstention was gradual; and this was certainly not the last time that Girish was drunk in his guru's presence. Sri Ramakrishna never forbade
    Girish to drink because he knew that it takes time to change deep-rooted habits. Yet the silent influence of the guru's love worked wonders. In the playwright's own words: 'from my early childhood it had been my nature to do the very thing that I was forbidden to do. But Sri Ramakrishna was a unique teacher. Never for a moment did he restrict me, and that worked a miracle in my life. He literally accepted my sins and left my soul free. If any of his devotees would speak of sin and sinfulness, he would rebuke him saying, "Stop that. Why talk of sin? He who repeatedly says, 'I am a worm, I am a worm,' becomes a worm. He, who thinks, 'I am free,' becomes free. Always have that positive attitude that you are free, and no sin will cling to you."'

    The Power of Attorney

    One day Girish finally surrendered himself at the feet of Ramakrishna and asked him for instruction. "Do just what you are doing now," said the guru. "Hold on to god with one hand and to the material world with the other. Think of god once in the morning and once in the evening, no matter how much work you have pending." Girish agreed that this sounded simple enough. But he then reflected on his disorganized life, so much on the mercy of impulses and emergencies and realized that he did not even have fixed hours for eating and sleeping; how then could he promise to remember god? Making a false commitment was out of the question.

    Ramakrishna, as if reading his mind said: "Very well, then remember god just before you eat or sleep. No matter what time of the day it is." Girish however, couldn't even make this simple promise, the fact being that any kind of self-discipline was
    repugnant to him. "In that case," said Ramakrishna, "give me your power of attorney. From this moment on, I'll take full responsibility for you. You won't have to do anything at all."

    Girish was overjoyed. This is what he had been wanting all the time; to be rid of responsibility and guilt forever. He readily agreed to the suggestion and thought to himself, 'now will I be as free as air.' He was however mistaken - as he soon found out.
    By consenting, he had turned himself into Ramakrishna's slave. Whenever Girish indulged himself, he was forced to think of the tremendous moral burden he would be placing on his guru. In fact, he found it hard to not constantly think of Sri Ramakrishna
    before performing any action.

    The Garlic Container

    One day he went to a brothel intending to spend the night there. At midnight however, he experienced an unbearable burning sensation all over his body and had to immediately leave the place to return home. Girish was reminded of the time when
    Ramakrishna had compared him to a cup of garlic paste. Though such a container may be washed an umpteen number of times, it is not possible to get rid of the smell altogether. "Will my smell go?" Girish had enquired. "Yes it will. All offensive odor vanishes when the vessel is heated in a blazing fire." Was this the same heat that was tormenting him now? So wondered the playwright.

    In later years he would tell young devotees that the way of complete self-surrender was actually much harder than the way of self-reliance and effort: "Look at me, I'm not even free to breathe, Sri Ramakrishna has taken full possession of my heart and bound it with his love."

    The Guru as Mother (In Girish's Own Words)

    'One day, when I arrived at Dakshineshwar, Sri Ramakrishna was just finishing his noonday meal. He offered me his dessert, but as I was about to eat it, he said: "Wait. Let me feed you myself." Then he put the pudding into my mouth with his own fingers, and I ate as hungrily and unself-consciously as a small baby. I forgot that I was an adult. I felt like a child whose mother was feeding him. But now when I remember how these lips of mine had touched many impure lips, and how my guru had fed me, touching them with his holy hand, I am overwhelmed with emotion and say to myself: "Did this actually happen? Or was it only a dream?" I heard from a fellow devotee that Sri Ramakrishna saw me as a little baby in a divine vision. And from then, whenever I was with him, I would actually feel like a child.'

    Here it is also relevant to observe that though Girish had the company of his mother till the age of eleven, he only had a limited interaction with her. This restriction was due to an innate fear on the part of the parent that if she came near her children she would lose them; blaming herself for the many such bereavements she had already suffered before Girish.

    The Vision of Bhairava

    Long before he had met the dramatist, Sri Ramakrishna had a vision, which he described as follows: 'One day, when I was meditating in the Kali temple, I saw a naked boy skipping into the temple. He had a tuft of hair on the crown of his head, and was carrying a flask of wine under his left arm and a vessel of nectar in his right. "Who are you?" I asked. "I am Bhairava," he replied. On my asking the reason for his coming, he answered, "To do your work." Years later when Girish came to me I recognized that Bhairava in him.'

    In fact, Ramakrishna had often chided his disciples who derided Girish's enchantment with the bottle, saying, "What harm can alcohol possibly cause to someone who embodies Bhairava himself?
    None other than our beloved Mother Kali can ever judge or restrain him. We, who are her mere servants, may not even dare to do so. Girish is not a hypocrite, he is the same, inside and outside." The analogy with Bhairava is both apt and instructive. Bhairava was generated from the wrath of Shiva, when the latter was forced to listen to the vain boastings of another deity (Brahma). Having such provocative origins, holding within himself a simmering potential, Bhairava is thus visualized in Indian thought as an ambivalent, excitable and dangerous character, reflecting the emotions aroused at his birth, and even today is worshipped with offerings of alcohol in many shrines across India.

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    The bonding through sharing of food was further strengthened when one day Girish went to the house of a friend, who too was a devotee of Ramakrishna. He found the host cleaning rice. Now, the latter was a rich landlord with many servants, but nevertheless
    he was performing this unaccustomed job himself. Girish was amazed and enquired of the reason. The householder replied: " The master is coming today, and he will have his lunch here. So I am cleaning the rice myself."

    Girish was touched by this extraordinary devotion. He reflected on his own ability to be of such service to Ramakrishna. He returned home and lay on the bed thinking, 'Indeed, god comes to the home of those who have devotion like my friend. I am a wretched drunkard. There is no one here who can receive the master in the proper manner and feed him.'

    Just then there was a knock on his door. Startled he jumped up. In front of him stood the master. "Girish I am hungry, could you give me something to eat?" There was no food in the house. Asking Sri Ramakrishna to wait, he rushed to a restaurant nearby and brought home some fried bread and potato curry. The food, coarse and hard, was much
    different from what the frail guru's constitution permitted. Nevertheless, he relished it with visible joy and delight.

    A Unique Solution

    As time progressed and age took over Ramakrishna, his health began to deteriorate. On the advise of doctors he was moved outside the city where the air was felt to be better.

    Illustration: http://www.exoticindia.com/artimages/healthhouse.jpg

    An arrangement was made whereby the householder disciples contributed money for his treatment, food and rent. The younger, unmarried devotees, who later would establish the Ramakrishna Mission, managed the household, including the nursing and
    shopping. After a while however, some of the householders felt that the expenditure was getting out of hand and demanded that a strict accounting system be maintained. The youngsters felt offended and decided not to accept any more money from them. When the situation reached a flashpoint, Girish came forward with a solution. He simply set fire to the account book in front of everybody. Then he told the householders to each contribute according to his means and that he would make up the shortfall. To the unmarried monks he said: "Don't worry. I shall sell my house if the need arises and spend every bit of the money for the master."

    Whatever might have been the fate of Ramakrishna's physical well being, one thing was certain - Girish's healing was complete - and he later remarked in humor: 'Had I known that there was such a huge pit in which to throw one's sins, I would have committed many more.' It was this transformed soul who began the practice of paying homage to Sri Ramakrishna before the commencement of a theatrical performance.

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    This article by Shri Nitin Kumar.
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    Ramakrishna Sri. Sayings of: Madras, 2004.
     
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    All those who welcomed me thanks

    I forgot that I had posted in this thread

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    billyblake I soon hope to start reading life divine again
     
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    Not to change the subject...but I got this in my e-mail today and found it interesting. :)


    Mark 4:21-34

    And he said to them, "Is a lamp brought in to be put under a bushel, or under a bed, and not on a stand? For there is nothing hid, except to be made manifest; nor is anything secret, except to come to light. If any man has ears to hear, let him hear."

    And he said to them, "Take heed what you hear; the measure you give will be the measure you get, and still more will be given you. For to him who has will more be given; and from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away." And he said, "The kingdom of God is as if a man should scatter seed upon the ground, and should sleep and rise night and day, and the seed should sprout and grow, he knows not how. The earth produces of itself, first the blade, then the ear, then the full grain in the ear. But when the grain is ripe, at once he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come."

    And he said, "With what can we compare the kingdom of God, or what parable shall we use for it? It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when sown upon the ground, is the smallest of all the seeds on earth; yet when it is sown it grows up and becomes the greatest of all shrubs, and puts forth large branches, so that the birds of the air can make nests in its shade."
     
  9. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    Dearest Kumar,

    This makes me think so much of the moon (esp. when it is full like it is tonight...)...everytime I see it...it is so beautiful that I am convinced that it must be the face of the Divine Mother. :)

    This was a very beautiful poem...thank you for sharing it. :)

    *Peace and Love*
    Nicole
     
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    Nice to see you again CCC!! :)

    *Peace and Love*
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    Here is a short quote from 'The Mother' by Sri Aurobindo:

    "Nothing can be here or elsewhere but what She decides and the Supreme sanctions; nothing can take shape except what She moved by the Supreme percieves and forms after casting it into seed in Her creating Ananda.
    The Mahashakti, the Universal Mother, works out whatever is transmitted by Her transcendent consciousness from the Supreme and enters into the worlds that She has made; Her presence fills and supports them with the divine spirit and the divine all-sustaining force and delight without which they could not exist. That which we call Nature or Prakriti is only the outward executive aspect; She marshals and arranges the harmony of Her forces and processes, impels the operations of Nature and moves among them secret or manifest in all that can be seen or experienced or put into motion of life. Each of the worlds is nothing but one play of the Mahashakti of that system of worlds or universe, who is there as the cosmic Soul and Personality of the transcendent Mother. Each is something that She has seen in her vision, gathered into her heart of beauty and power and created in her Ananda."
     
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    It's worth the effort. My advice would be to read only when you are calm and peaceful, and not too much at a time.

    Hare Krishna!
     
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    Dear Chief Cowpie -


    Nice to see you're still around. Thanks for the item about Sri Ramakrishna :)

    Hare Krishna!
     
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    Dearest Andrew,

    Thank you for this quote...it is absolutely beautiful... :)

    *Peace and Love*
    Nicole
     
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    Hare Krishna!

    Dear CCP,

    What a great relief and joy to have you back here with us again! Thank you, dear friend, for the wonderful Devotee-God(Guru) story of relationship. Girish(Girish Chandra Ghosh) is one of the greatest devotees ever known, his faith and trust in his Guru was exemplary. He was like one of those children who do all sorts of good and bad acts but at the end of the day cannot do without the mother. He can easily be one of the best teachers to tell one how one's faith and trust should be and how one should surrender to his Guru or God. All glory to Bhakta-sreshtha Girish, Thakur's beloved child.

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    GIRISH'S THAKUR - OUR THAKUR
    SRI RAMAKRISHNA PARAMAHANSA


    With love,

    Kumar.






     
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    This makes me think so much of the moon (esp. when it is full like it is tonight...)...everytime I see it...it is so beautiful that I am convinced that it must be the face of the Divine Mother. :) ....FROM SGBEAUTY
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    Hare Krishna!

    Dear SGBeauty,

    What a serene and beautiful thought! Thank you for sharing with us. Lord's dear child, may be you are not aware that your thought has a wonderful similarity to that of Ma Saradamoni (Thakur Ramakrishna's consort and the mother of all beings).

    Ma Saradamoni used to look up at the moon often(Particularly during full moon nights) and pray that she also becomes as divine as the moon.


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    Ma Saradamoni - Our Mother.
    Please click to get a bigger photo

    She is garlanded with hibiscus flower. Pray we all can surrender at Her feet to become as divine as Her.

    With love,

    Kumar.

     
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    Dearest Kumar,

    That is a beautiful picture...it looks like she is dwelling in a flower. :)

    *Peace and Love*
    Nicole
     
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    The last Krishna i saw at the airport carry sub machineguns. Must be a new trend. or Cows prices went up = im not sure.
     
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    Vanshi vibhooshita kalat navaneeradabhat
    peetambarat arunabimbaphalada netrat
    poornendusundara mukhat aravindanetrat
    Krishnat param kimapi tattvam aham na jaane.

    - One whose hand is adorned by flute, whose complexion is like the newly formed clouds, who dons yellow clothes, whose lips are red like the fruit of Kundan; whose face is like the full moon, whose eyes are like lotus flower, I know no truth greater than that Lord Krishna.

    _Jai Sri Ram_ ........From Bhaskar
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    Hare Krishna!

    Now I have that picture to paste here. Hope, it matches with the description to some extent.


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    HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA
    KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE
    HARE RAMA HARE RAMA
    RAMA RAMA HARE HARE


    With love,

    Kumar.
    .
     
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    "Nothing can be here or elsewhere but what She decides and the Supreme sanctions; nothing can take shape except what She moved by the Supreme percieves and forms after casting it into seed in Her creating Ananda.

    The Mahashakti, the Universal Mother, works out whatever is transmitted by Her transcendent consciousness from the Supreme and enters into the worlds that She has made; Her presence fills and supports them with the divine spirit and the divine all-sustaining force and delight without which they could not exist. That which we call Nature or Prakriti is only the outward executive aspect; She marshals and arranges the harmony of Her forces and processes, impels the operations of Nature and moves among them secret or manifest in all that can be seen or experienced or put into motion of life. Each of the worlds is nothing but one play of the Mahashakti of that system of worlds or universe, who is there as the cosmic Soul and Personality of the transcendent Mother. Each is something that She has seen in her vision, gathered into her heart of beauty and power and created in her Ananda." _........
    FROM BBB
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    Hare Krishna!

    Dear Bill,

    That quote from The Mother is beautiful, thank you. If we want we can get everything from Sri Aurobindo.


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    MA SARADAMONI
    THE UNIVERSAL MOTHER


    Love,

    Kumar.
     

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