And this applies only to America. It must have been a nice place here on Earth before those damn Americans invented war and the notion of nations protecting their interests in the world.
Oh Haid thank you, once more my argument is backed up, you are not asking ‘were these things good’ you are saying ‘yeh but others do them’. That isn’t learning from the past it is trying to claim there isn’t anything to learn. "you didn't do your homework" asks the teacher "No sir but others didn't" replies the student What next you going to claim you do know the answer but your dog eat it? **
America may still someday pull her head out of her ass. We were among the first to abolish slavery and support religious freedom and women's rights, at one time we supported all personal rights and protections. We were the first nation to promote political correctness...and although I have problems with it being overused, at least during that period we were civil to each other. But lately we have become more interested in protecting our portfolios and our own personal interests, with no foresight as to how well those interests will be protected once we dismantle our constitution.
You never heard me say America is or was perfect just that I love her and support her. Of coarse, I don't live in a idealist fantasy world. I understand Countries look out for their own interests/resources. I am just sick of people trying to make Americans feel bad for what is an essential part of running any Country and what they themselves are involved in. Just becuase you are not as successful at it in the modern age doesn't mean you should go pointing fingers.
Yep I heard they're having a big "celebrate American isolationism" party in Darfur right now. Except for the 200,000 people that couldn't make it.
a man knocks on someones door is invited in and gives people gifts. everyone says how wonderful he is. he then goes next doors, kicks the door down, rapes the inhabitants then kills them and burns their house down. everyone says he is mad and bad. the man is puzzled by this and hoping to make amends then goes next doors kicks the door down, shoots the owners dead, throws some presents to the kids inside and tells them he's doing this for their own good. the man is eventually arrested and explains that he can't understand why people don't love him because doesn't he bring gifts to people? it is explained to the man that just because he gives people gifts doesn't mean he can practice wholesale destruction in the name of kindness. the man is released anyway because the judge is a very good friend of his.
If you look at foreign involvement, the ratio of self-motivated to humanitarian goals doesn't exactly come close to favouring the latter. Besides, interfering w/ any state's sovereignty is something that should only be done multilaterally, preferably under direction from the UN.
If you look at American foreign involvement, the ratio of self-motivated to humanitarian goals doesn't exactly come close to favouring the latter. Besides, interfering w/ any state's sovereignty is something that should only be done multilaterally, preferably under direction from the UN.
Hahaha, you all have fun in your little fantasy world, it's fine by me. P.S. grammar has nothing to do with an arguement, just because I have poor grammar doesn't mean I don't have a valid point or that my arguement is wrong.
No, but poor grammar correlates pretty well with stupidity. Since you can't read everyone's opinion, it's a pretty big pointer of what to avoid.
Not to make too big a point out of it, but no, the end of US isolationism came with entry into WWII. It goes like this.... Isolationism was a very big thing in pre-WWI USA. Then President Woodrow Wilson spent 1914 through the beginning of 1917 trying to keep America out of the war in Europe. In 1916, Wilson was re-elected, his major campaign slogan was "He kept us out of the war" referring to his administration's avoiding open conflict with Germany or Mexico while maintaining a firm national policy. Wilson, however, never promised to keep out of war regardless of provocation. Wilson's second term focused almost exclusively on World War I, which for the US formally began on April 6, 1917, only a little over a month after his second term began. But even so isolationism or non-interventionist sentiment remained. Which is why, among other things, the US Congress refused to endorse the Treaty of Versailles or the League of Nations. Following the sacrifices in the World War I, the United States population turned even stronger to isolationism during the 1920s, opposing any action by the government that would drag the country into another European war. Even after WWII broke out in Europe on September 1, 1939, isolationism was still pretty much in control, with such Americans as Charles Lindbergh, Gerald P. Nye and Rush D. Holt prominently advocated U.S. neutrality. Groups like the America First Committee tapped into the overwhelming desire of the American people to remain out of this second European war, attracting hundreds of thousands into its ranks. The America First Committee launched a petition aimed at enforcing the 1939 Neutrality Act and forcing President Roosevelt to keep his pledge to keep America out of the war. They strongly distrusted Roosevelt, arguing that he was lying to the American people. President Roosevelt's efforts to aid countries against Nazi Germany's and Imperial Japan's aggression through economic aid (Lend-Lease) and embargoes undermined this non-interventionism. On the day after Roosevelt's lend-lease bill was submitted to Congress, America First's leader, General Robert E. Wood, (the chairman of Sears, Roebuck and Co., even big business was isolationist) promised AFC opposition "with all the vigor it can exert." America First staunchly opposed the convoying of ships, the Atlantic Charter, and the placing of economic pressure on Japan. So you see, Isolationism was still strong in the US even after WWII had started in Europe. Of course, almost immediately after the Pearl Harbor attacks, the American peace movement quickly lost support and evaporated. Some theorize that the administration knew the attacks were going to happen & let them, just to end the isolationism. American isolationism came to an end during World War II. But the main point is, a lot of the people in countries like the UK, France, Canada, Russia, China .... well, it's a long list, were very happy about that the policy of isolation ended. Some might not mind, or may even like, the idea of Nazi Germany & Imperial Japan dividing up the planet... but most don't. Peace, poor_old_dad
They'll be relieved to hear that in Darfur. But that does mean you supported the first Gulf War, right? It also correlates with writing in a second language. Why don't you give it a rest.
There are two reasons we're not going to Darfur: We're too busy bombing women and children in Iraq to stop the bombing of women and children in Sudan, and; They have nothing of value for us to bargain for. You can't have it both ways. If you want US imperialism to stay out of the governmental affairs of sovereign nations, stop complaining when we do just that. I do find it questionable that this violence in Darfur has been going on for 10 years, Kofi Annan, a Ghanan, was the Sec General during that 10 years. The UN has yet to do anything tangible about Darfur. Peace-keeping missions are historically failures.
Poor grammar has NOTHING to do with stupidity. I graduated from a college prep high school in which I got a 3.5 GPA, took college level courses taught by college and former college professors, I scored very well on my ACT and well on my SAT, and I am an EMT & a Wilderness EMT. So again, poor grammar has NOTHING to do with stupidity. It has to do with me not taking the time to check my grammar because I have other things to do than to argue on these forums.
The UN doesn't have the ability to do anything about anything. It is a forum. Members can agree to do things under the UN banner, but the UN itself is powerless.
when it comes to grammar etc.. i have worked in some places where some people were neither literate nor numerate. this did not make these people stupid, infact they had well developed reasoning skills since they had to compensate for their lack of knowledge. however.... to get your point across sometimes you need to develop your spelling and sentence structure, i make a few mistakes but try to correct them. if you are arguing a point by polishing your grammar you make your point well, if you don't you leave yourself wide open.
They have oil. Not massive amounts, but not bad either. Its enough to make China the country's largest arms supplier, its ally on the Security Council, and a major investor in its oil industry. Too bad nobody cares. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21143-2004Dec22.html
