? Have you been “double-crossed” ?

I'd just ask you this: you persistently use the word 'messiah'. I would like to know where you first came across this term. I very much suspect that it was within one of the religious systems you say are all 'imagination'.
If not, then where? Simple question.
Because as far as I can see the concept 'messiah' is taken directly from either the Jewish or Christian traditions. But you say these traditions are imagination, so in fact you are using imaginary words with no reality.
Or do you have some special dispensation to pick out the bits of imaginary systems that are perhaps less imaginary than others?

 

believe i first heard the word "messiah" while held captive by elementary
education braindirtying processes. probably had to do with what they
called "handel's messiah".......

never said "traditions" were "imaginations". however, religious systems
worship the "images" they have created of their own imagination.

indeed religious systems are grounded in imaginations, yet The Way
to The Truth of The Life is Real, and i have "experienced The Messiah
and The Power that resurrected Him".......

The Miracle of The Life, The Miracle of Deliverance, The Miracle of
Healing, The Miracle of dying, yet still breathing, The Miracle of Growth
in Grace, The Miracle that is Our Father's Mercy.......

Faith grounded in anything less than Miracles is but imagination.......

i believe that your own "imaginings", your own imaging is a result of
the braindirtying processes of "the god of this world". all systems of
this world have their part in his evil schemes and yet the religious
systems dirty not only the brain, but the soul and spirit of man.

now i leave you to you, knowing,

that while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

yes, "you to you", for one day, left alone, you may "see" just how "poor
and needy" you are. and then, could be you will receive of Our Father
The Miracle of Life, Real Life, Forever.......

The Messiah testified, "whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die"!

then The Messiah questioned, "do you believe this"?

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

Ok enough said. Lets just leave it at that.

 

You sound more like a Muslim than a Christian.

You're ignorant of the rest of the Bible, including the verses that you so blindly ignored.

Talk a bit more in tongues, and ask God ( the CHRISTIAN God ) if you're not to sexist.


BTW: what do you think of THIS? (on Proverbs 31):



Who can find a virtuous wife?For her worth is far above rubies. 11 The heart of her husband safely trusts her;So he will have no lack of gain. 12 She does him good and not evil All the days of her life. 13 She seeks wool and flax,And willingly works with her hands. 14 She is like the merchant ships,She brings her food from afar. 15 She also rises while it is yet night,And provides food for her household,And a portion for her maidservants. 16 She considers a field and buys it;From her profits she plants a vineyard. 17 She girds herself with strength,And strengthens her arms. 18 She perceives that her merchandise is good,And her lamp does not go out by night. 19 She stretches out her hands to the distaff,And her hand holds the spindle. 20 She extends her hand to the poor,Yes, she reaches out her hands to the needy. 21 She is not afraid of snow for her household,For all her household is clothed with scarlet. 22 She makes tapestry for herself;Her clothing is fine linen and purple. 23 Her husband is known in the gates,When he sits among the elders of the land. 24 She makes linen garments and sells them,And supplies sashes for the merchants. 25 Strength and honor are her clothing;She shall rejoice in time to come. 26 She opens her mouth with wisdom,And on her tongue is the law of kindness. 27 She watches over the ways of her household,And does not eat the bread of idleness. 28 Her children rise up and call her blessed;Her husband also, and he praises her: 29 "Many daughters have done well,But you excel them all." 30 Charm is deceitful and beauty is passing,But a woman who fears the LORD, she shall be praised. 31 Give her of the fruit of her hands,And let her own works praise her in the gates.
NKJV

 

ryu...read the latest of Adam's posts in the "are you sure?" thread

 

Thanks, I checked them out. But he left all the negative things out:

Women are stupid, and a man's twice as smart as them:
Hadith 3.826:

The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."

and Hadith 2.541:
..."O women! Give alms, for I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were you (women)." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is the reason for it?" He replied, "O women! You curse frequently, and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. ...

men are superior:
Surah 2:228

Men are superior to women

A woman's only half the worth of a man:

Surah 4:11
"To the male a portion equal to that of two females..."


Islam sees women as possesion:

Surah 3:14
"...Fair in the eyes of men is the love of things they covet: Women and sons; heaped-up hoards of gold and silver; horses..."


A man's aloud to beat his wive(s) :

Surah 4:34
"...As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, Admonish them, refuse to share their beds, beat them,..."


and let's not forget:


Surah 2:223

A wife is a sex object for her husband

Islam sees women as sex objects.



In adultery, Men are limited to a flogging, while wives are imprisoned until death.

A man may have up to 4 wives.

I don't know if Adam knows about that though.
It's illegal to say ANYTHING negative or criticising in Islamic countries, where Cabd's family most likely came from.

People try to hide things like that from children and public...

 

you are yet of the "foolish women":-((((((

and where is a "virtuous woman"?

she would certainly be a woman who did not:

"teach a man, not interfer with his authority......."
"for she would remain silent".

and she would accept The Only True GOD's Order:

"The Only True GOD is The HEAD of The Messiah",
"and The Messiah is The Head of the man",
"and the man is the head of the woman".......period.......

"and she would be submitted unto the man",
because she knows that in all things it must
be as it was for The Messiah:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

your "christian" "god"? want nothing to do with
a three-headed pagan "god", or a "god" given the
imagined name of "jesus" some 500 years ago.......

"i will love The Only True GOD and HIM alone will i serve".......

"The Messiah was a servant of The Only True GOD" and
i pray Our Father would use me as HE wills.......

as for ignorance?

while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that you would continue to grow in Grace so
that you might more fully "experience The Messiah
and The Power that resurrected Him".......

such experience will gender a living hope that will
overcome all ignorance.......

"for tribulation works patience, and patience, experience,
and experience, hope" and hope overcomes the ignorance
that is this world and it's religious systems".

may Our Father cleanse you of all the braindirtying you
have been subjected to. educational systems, both
secular and religious, are of this wicked, evil world and
it's "god", "the father of lies".

may you be of those who quit serving "time" in the
prison that is this world.......of those who desire
above all else:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

OK, so are you Chrisrtian or not?

You seem ignorant of the reason he was saying that.

Of coarse we're supposed to submit to our HUSBANDS, that doesn't mean we're supposed to submit to some secular male ( unless he's your boss in a job)

And about the wife submitting to husband thing:

Husbands are in SPIRITUAL athority. The wife can argue with him, decide on plans with him together, make suggestions, etc. etc.

The only thing is that he'll make the final decision when handling a problem, and if it's wrong, well, -that's his fault.

It's not like:

" Go jump off that cliff " and she jumps off the cliff without suggestions and arguments.


Study a bit more why Paul said that, and get saved.

ditto to you.
Love and flowers
~Ryu

 

why must you have faith in Paul to be saved by the Father/the Son?

 

simply, "christianity" is Anti-Messiah.......period.......

and you? well you are yet of the "foolish women".

"In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that
even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may be won without
a word by the behavior of their wives, as they observe your chaste and
respectful behavior.

Your adornment must not be merely external--braiding the hair, and wearing
gold jewelry, or putting on dresses; but let it be the hidden person of the
heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is
precious in the sight of God.

For in this way in former times the holy women also, who hoped in God, used
to adorn themselves, being submissive to their own husbands; just as Sarah
obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, and you have become her children if you do
what is right without being frightened by any fear."

and you? you are but the product of your own vain imaginations and the
braindirting processes of pagan "christianity".

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that you would take heed unto The Call of
The Only True GOD to:

"Come out of her, MY people......."

hope that you would cease your jezebelic, rebellious
ways and "come out" of this evil world and the pagan
harlot religious system that calls herself "christianity".

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

And you are yet of the "foolish men"

Yup,- of coarse you ignored my last post. Thanks, Satan.

What's that hafta do with the topic?

Yup, once again. You ignore my verses I post, because that domineering Spirit blinds you. It goes "NO!!! Don't listen to her...females don't have such a spiritual bond like you." They hang out with deception, pride, and religion.

But guess what? I (a follower of Jesus Christ) HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THEM. So shut yer trap, Devil.

Demons are annoying...parasites...

I'm not catholic. Eventhough most Catholics have less confusion than you.

 

It is not by accident that the symbol of Papal authority is a crook, and the symbol of a bishop is a double-cross.
The joke's on you.

 

The Bible does, in fact, make this statement

"Trinity" - the, "solution" that involved the worship of three gods, so that both the, "Christians", and the pagans (who refused to serve merely one Lord) could worship together.

A sign magically appearing in the sky before the Pagan, Constantine, which he claimed was, "A vision from the Lord". With this religion (Catholic) he would unite his people under a one world government and religious system.

"One Lord, one faith, one baptism" (Ephesians 4:5)

God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit - ONE GOD, not three separate people making up a Godhead.

The presence of the Holy Spirit

Both the blood sacrifice he gave up to take upon the burden of man at the cross and the (Holy) Spirit he gave upon his last breath, which was the new covenant between the Lord and man (which wiped out the need for a spiritual intercessor of the old testament)

"Greater is HE (Jesus Christ, if you possess his Spirit through the baptism of the Holy Ghost as stated throughout Acts) that is in YOU, than HE (Satan) that is in the world"

 

sad for you:-((((((

your words bear witness against you, and that is
understandable for it is clear your emotions have
become the "spirit" that consumes you.

yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that you would call upon Our Father, asking
HIM to reveal to you why women are to be silent,
why they are to submit unto the man, why HE
made you, you.......

and hope is you would receive of Our Father and
not of your own "braindirtyed" mind.......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

"Trinity", the "lie" that has many following "the broadway to destruction".

and multitudes of "braindirtyed" souls have chosen to "take up" the
"cross" of "d"evil's advocate "constantine".

you forgot to include "ONE GOD, The Father of ALL".......

as to the "one baptism"? no water needed for those who were not
"baptised into moses in the cloud and the sea".......

the "one baptism" is of "The Great Spirit and fire".......

"The ONLY TRUE GOD", HE is the ONE GOD".......period.......

"The Messiah, the beginning of the creation of The ONLY TRUE GOD".......
"The Messiah, the firstborn of many Brethren".......
"The Messiah, servant of The ONLY TRUE GOD".......

"jesus"???? the imagined name that "catholicism" and her harlot "christian"
daughters gave to one head of three-headed pagan "god" some 500 years
ago. that was some 1500 years after The Messiah resurrected. if you must
refer to The Messiah by His transliterated modern english name then He
would be called "Joshua".......period.......

"spiritual intercessor", another term for mediator.......

and yes Believers have a "Mediator", The Messiah.......period.......

could be wrong, yet it seems you are held captive by pentacostal dogma.

and that is sad indeed:-((((((

yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that you, as The Messiah did, would desire above all else:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

not a question of "faith in paul", but of The Spirit within paul.......

and peter also, for he testified of a woman being submissive unto
man as well.......

"The Only True GOD is The HEAD of The Messiah,
and The Messiah is the Head of man,
and the man is the head of the woman".......

"catholicism", prior to birthing her pagan "christian" daughters,
broke the first link in The Only True GOD's Order some 1600 years
ago when they imagined the perverse doctrine they called "trinty".

and today we "see" the resulting disorder....... he/she's and
she/he's abound, and millions upon millions of children are
sacrificed unto the "god of pleasure" :-((((((

one who has "experienced The Messiah and The Power that
resurrected Him" "see's" the need to accept The Only True
GOD's Order, knowing "it is not in man to order his own
steps".......

peace, even as war(spirtual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

That's telling the brain dirty devils!

 

what happened to the "let's just leave it at that"?

not "brain dirty devils", but "braindirtyed" by the "god of this world"
and his systems of perversion, confusion, and delusion, especially
his religious systems.......

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

for The Miracle of cleansing, "washed whiter than snow".......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

Just a question, Francisco, what denomination/sect do you belong to?

 

You just want to argue...

but about the trinity, what does THIS sentence mean to you?

Matt 12:31-32

"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
NKJV