Have you been more scared on weed than on any other psychedelics?

^I tripped salvia before I tripped anything. I tripped it before I even had an interest in psychedelics. I actually had no idea what it was. All I was told was that it was a legal herb similiar to weed....wtf, friends who lied to me??? it was nothing like weed.

 

Yah, I think that's the bigger problem with Salvia rather than the Salvia goddess not enjoying being smoked. There is false propaganda about it being legal weed or legal LSD and its not even remotely similar to either, on top of that many don't breakthrough with their initial trial with it, so 'bad' anectdotal info gets passed on as well.

But even beyond all that, Salvia disintegrates all residue of reality pretty thoroughly which is most likely going to elicit fear and unease.

 

I'd still do DMT in a second before Salvia

 

Two tokes of Salvia was all it took for me to have one of the scariest/weirdest episodes of my life. There must be a lot of difference in the potencies of the various types out there. I see video of people smoking ?x salvia and sitting around and giggling. The strange thing about Salvia is there does seem to be some alien presence involved. And to me there was nothing friendly about it.

Cannabis has always been a pleasure although it does't help my socializing skills. I prefer smoking alone.

Psychedelics are different and more powerful experience than reefer and should be done with trusted friends and in a environment where you feel comfortable.

 

I consider DMT a warm soulful trip and Salvia a cold soulless trip. Just mine and pretty much everyone i've ever smoked it withs opinion as well.

 

Interesting. The worst for me was LSA, shrooms a close 2nd. With the shrooms I literally believed in hell and that I was going there. LSA I was stuck in an infinite time loop with no escape. Now, either those two psychedelics don't have associated waves of euphoria, or my wave of euphoria didn't quell the fear. I believe weed has the potential to be as terrifying as anything else, which is why I don't overdo it.

 

I've had many terrible salvia trips. When I was 16 I bought a kilo of salvia leaves and would go around smokin it everywhere, decent trip, not too intense. Than I got 40x, 10x, 5x, and the purple shit..Those gave me plenty of really bad trips. One of my more positive experiences with it, was when I was in the middle of having sex with my ex. I took a fat rip a few minutes before I jizzed..it was nice, felt great actually.

 

Sex on Salvia that's impressive.

 

Salvia is just strange.

It's so disconnected from reality I have a hard time recalling it, mostly just the going in/coming out times that I recall well. I know pretty much what happened on it, but I cant empathize with the "me" of that time.

I really hate salvia gravity. And the increased tactile sensations seem to make solo trips end in masturbation, for me.... I don't really enjoy it, or finish, I just end up touchin' myself, because I become so aware of my body. Also, the shedding clothes on it's totally true for me, they just feel so strange and overload my sense of touch so badly....

I'd love to try it more, but I'd want to grow it, and try chewing, water extraction, or other more traditional methods. FUCK "purple sticky" and their "legal high" business up the ASS.

With how disconnected from reality it is, I don't really remember that I've done salvia unless someone mentions it. If asked to list drugs I've taken, if I remember it at all, it's the last I list. It's not even a feeling I associate with being on drugs.

 

So going back to RC's... are some of those online sources reliable? I know that there's one here in Canada that you can find quite easily just by googling, but is that for real? If someone wants to PM me on that feel free to do it so we can discuss it! Maybe i'd like some M1 or 4ACODMT or some 2c short lasting.

 

I can't help you with sources but I think 4-ac0 dmt would be an amazing introductory psychedelic.

 

I think so to. Short lasting, apparently shroom-like but more gentle and forgiving... I'm was a little offput at first cause its a chemical and not natural but not im starting to consider it!

 

Agree with the consensus here. My first breakthrough with salvia was by far my most terrifying drug experience, possibly my most terrifying experience period. And, like most first-time salvia users, I had no previous experience with psychedelics, which didn't help one bit.

The only other time I freaked out was on weed. I had just gotten a fresh quarter ounce from a new source and decided to smoke a shitload of it by myself. I got really really stoned, and my heart rate sped up significantly. I then did possibly the stupidest thing I could have done at that point: went on erowid and read a trip report about someone who had had their weed laced with PCP, and had to be hospitalized. In my paranoid state, I managed to 100% convince myself that my symptoms were identical to the ones described in the trip report, and that my weed had been laced with PCP, and I was going to die. I was really close to calling 911, but I somehow managed to keep it together. I was lying on my bed in a cold sweat, shivering uncontrollably, with my heart rate through the roof. Eventually I managed to calm down, but damn. That was rough.

 

No

 

This. Smoking has always made me uncomfortable. The only real reason I want to smoke pot more often than I do is to ready my lungs for smoked psychedelics like DMT.

 

That's some pretty heavy shit GB.

Seriously though, this thread is a good representation of how different things effect people differently.

Having done salvia a few times, (10-20x) I never "broke through" but rather had those short lived, salvia-gravity experiences that felt other worldly but not unfriendly. My only complaint is that it's too short lived to take anything positive away from it other than, 'gee, that was nice'.

Back in the day when I was new to weed it gave me paranoia at times but it always seemed like part of the fun. After some time that went away.

 

What is the difference between:

- the universe being created in a big bang, planet earth coalescing from space dust, life flourishing, mushrooms grow, with 4-HO-DMT being produced through chemical interactions in fungal matter

- the universe being created in a big bang, planet earth coalescing from space dust, life flourishing, humans grow, figure out logic/chemistry, with 4-ACO-DMT being produced through chemical interactions in glassware

?

It is all natural, there is nothing outside of nature. Our labors are the universe's labors. Japan is not the only source of harmful radiation in the universe

 

You want to smoke weed to ready your lungs for DMT? hahahahaaha

How does that work may i ask?

 

+1 Mr.Writer!
Makes perfect sense! Something unnatural pretty much can't exist! Awesome!

 

THC dilates and soothes airways. If you don't have shit weed, it should help.

If you want to smoke in this way, you should look up "water curing".

You should look it up anyway, really.