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Discussion in 'Hippies' started by big rapids, Sep 11, 2004.

  1. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    A lot of people have also died because of terrorist policy..that never realy gets questioned or picked apart for its lies inacurracies and plain insanity..american policy British policy Australian policy the list goes on should be sometimes questioned but the same amount of energy should be channeled into the 'opposition' ...these terrorist oh sorry i think they are being called insurgents this week .. have no rationale for what they do , and do not care about the people they are supposedly defending and 'freeing' ....
     
  2. SelfControl

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    They're called insurgents because calling them guerrillas makes them sound nice. The insurgents in Iraq are completely different to Al Qaeda, in method and in intent. These people, despite what bullshit you may hear from Reuters, are defending their nation from an occupying force. Just being on the side of the occupiers doesn't excuse you from being ignorant of that.
     
  3. matthew

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    Could you direct me to some information on the insurgent viewpoint . I hear that other insurgents that are not even iraqi are their as well.. defending who from what ??? its not just us that is killing innocent people you know ... I don't doubt that it good to seperate these insurgents from Al Qaeda , it makes defending their nation seem like this is what they want... Last time i checked dangling heads in front of the people you wish to peacefuly tell to get out of your country is not the best policy.
     
  4. SelfControl

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    It's reasonable to assume that if you invade someone's country they are going to get pissed off. I mean, we would. Fuck knows where this idea of "shock and awe" followed by parades in the street came from. I'm not condoning the methods employed by these insurgents, but I can't really feel that sorry for the US either, their arrogance on the world stage would be funny if it didn't kill so many.
     
  5. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    yeah thats prety much how i feel about the insurgents...
     
  6. Peace-Phoenix

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    Some of the insurgents are foreign terrorists linked to al Quaeda, such as the ones responsible for the most gruesome of hostage cases. But the majority are simply Iraqi nationalists who are opposed to being occupied by a foreign power. I was against the war in Iraq from the beginning. I'm against the occupation now, it's simply inflaming further acts of violence. I don't agree with the methods the insurgents are using, but we did stir up a hornets nest by attacking their country in the first place....
     
  7. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    If you don't think that people being invaded wouldn't be pissed off you are fucking retarded.
    The entire Muslim religion is threatened to be destroyed by the Christian Fundemental U.S. government....I'm assuming they seen this threat and decided to band together, so that the rest of the Middle East doesn't get ass-raped and have their land taken away by America like Palestine is by Israel.
    It's the occupation forces that shoot crouds of anti-american demnstrators, not the Iraqis.
    The U.S. didn't listen to the UN when they said there were no WMD's, they searched in the 90s and didnt find shit, there was no satellite images that showed Saddam was transporting materials out of the country, and the claims that Al-Queda was linked to Saddam have been proven to be false. The people are being forced to convert to American ways when THEY DONT WANT TO. Does that mean anything to you, shithead? Why is it okay to force people to change because the government thinks they are dirty savages that hate freedom? They don't hate freedom, they hate having their country occupied and their resources robbed from them. If you didn't notice, cutting off heads was not one of their first choices, and they gave the countries who the people belonged to a chance to save them, and only the Philippines did. You should learn about what you want to talk about, you look like an ignorant asshole this way.
     
  8. gate68

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    If you didn't notice, cutting off heads was not one of their first choices, and they gave the countries who the people belonged to a chance to save them, and only the Philippines did.

    As long as it wasn't their first choice,I guess it's O.K.Violence is violence on either side.We're not any better,but we're not any worse.I know it's hip to knock the U.S.,but that doesn't mean our enemies are choir boys.These are ruthless people.
     
  9. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    I'm not condoning what they did, it was horrible, but they struck back the best they could. They don;t have the big tanks and armored hummers that the occupation forces have.
    I'm not talking about knocking the U.S, but they(the U.S. govt) is wrong in what they are doing. The Iraqis were not the enemies to start with, and they only appear ruthless because they are trying to protect their land. They aren't doing anything that the U.S. isn't doing, if you make the beheadings and prison torture/rapings equal each other.
     
  10. gate68

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    I know.Actually I think sending in missles was the ultimate form of terrorism.Cutting off heads just seems more violent.I just see a bunch of street gangs.We got the muslim gangs,we got the christians,we got the bush boys...At least Saddam was a powerfull enough gang leader to keep them under control.Yes sir it's the kripts vs. the bloods.
     
  11. big rapids

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    I still think one big fucking bomb would do part of the trick.
    If I reallly look at it, just dropping a bomb will do nothing to curb terrorism, it would just fuel it.
    I didn't know how nigative I was until I did this thread.
    Fuck it, nukeum.
     
  12. matthew

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    The U.S. didn't listen to the UN when they said there were no WMD's, they
    American ways ??? Thats a bit ott don't you think ... their is more than americans over their , these americans that you say are robbing resources is slightly unfair as well ... endless amounts of aid is being given and a chance at democracy can't be bad. I don't think any goverment helping thinks they are 'dirty savages' what conspiracy drivel...Its conveniant for you to demonise the coalition ohh sorry americans ..heaven forbid that they maybe doing some good. Show disrespect for the efforts and achievments being done under intense pressure...and carry on clapping your hands at futile capitulation forced upon nations having to try and save their nationals from wretched insurgents.. If these insurgents don't want to be americanised as you think..i take it you think they spealk for the iraqi people ??? okay why don't they join civil diplomatic exchange..it election time soon , let the people have what they want ..its shockingly simple. If they want saddam back well ... should we stop them .. if they want to be ruled bt religous zealots ..should we stop them. well they wil get what they want (for a change).
     
  13. Peace-Phoenix

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    Many, your entire attitude is much like America in general. For what you, and people in your country have gone through, the world has a lot of sympathy, I have a lot of sympathy. But your arrogance and bigotry do much to destroy any sympathy for you....
     
  14. shameless_heifer

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    I don't belive we all have such attitude towards our fellow man..or are we all bigots.. big rapids just has a high level of testosterone.. the american people are no more to blame for the tatics the govenment uses then the other civilians of other countries.. yes we can vote.. but that doesn't change matters much..
     
  15. big rapids

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    Just as of late have I felt a bigger sack. Me Tarzan. Thanks shameless, I feel better now.
     
  16. shameless_heifer

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    well I'm glad to help you out there big...lololol.. nice pic.. woooohoooo..my kinda man.. talk about a hippie in the rough....
     
  17. big rapids

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    And ready too! Wanta swing? Where is my vine? JANE, Are you home? Tarzan has surprise for Jane.
     
  18. inthawoods420

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    fuck russia it's cold over there Damn Potato farmers/soldiers.
     
  19. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    The UN said that Saddam had no WMDs after weapons inspection as late as 1997 and 1998, Clinton listened, but Bush wanted to finish his daddy's war.




    The form of democracy that should be over there is not the American democracy, there's as much problems with it as Saddam's old government(maybe not as much, but there’s a lot). They get to vote! Woopee! We get to vote, and we still don't get to elect the president. If you don't believe me, google "2000 florida presidential election." Voting doesn’t equal freedom.




    And what aid is this? They are getting dropped food, and that’s it. No clean or running water, which many families over there had before the invasion….the few pipelines that existed were destroyed with all the “peace bombing” you praise. They are robbing resources, natural resources. Food is not a natural resource, oil is, and oil isn’t renewable either. Food can be artificially made in factories, I think the Iraqis are getting ripped off if you view this as a “trade," there's many, many families still starving over there.



    George Bush and Colin Powell have called the Muslims “uncivilized”…. uncivilized is politically correct for “inhumane savages.” The Native Americans looked uncivilized to the explorers when they landed. Take your conspiracy theorist-wannabe insults and stick them back into that useless sheep box you call your mouth.




    I’m calling it like I see it. What good are they doing to the dead civilian children and the families they made extinct? What good is “Freedom” going to do for the dead bodies? Answer that motherfucking question. Freedom isn’t going to do shit for the dead civilians and the dead patriots who decided to defend their country against a force that’s much stronger than they are. If you haven’t noticed, the much stronger force is losing. The Iraqis have lost more people, but nobody predicts the U.S. to win, not even George Bush. “This is going to be a long and drawn out war with no end in site” is not an optimistic view.




    I don’t consider innocent civilians getting killed “achievements.” There’s an effort, but the atrocities committed by the occupation forces far out-shadow whatever efforts are being made.




    What the hell are you talking about? I don’t support the American occupation forces….I support the people that are trying to save their nation from a Western takeover that isn’t wanted.




    I never said I do, but I’ve seen enough interviews and documentaries to be able to tell what the opinions are of the occupation over there. Have you seen any native-Iraqi families on CNN or FOX praising the occupation force’s “efforts” for “Freedom?” No. And, if they would want to be Americanized, they wouldn’t be fighting back. Why would they fight against something they want? Can you answer that?



    Hmm….who to vote for who to vote for. Let’s see, there’s a terrorist warlord from the Middle East and a terrorist warlord supported by America. How great the country will be! :rolleyes:



    Nobody said they wanted Saddam back….he gassed the Kurds and his own people…he should be locked up for the rest of his life. If the goal of this mission was to get Saddam, they’ve accomplished, but then Bush had to talk about WMDs, links to Al-Queda, and that Saddam had plans of attacking America. All those reasons have been proven false.



    Those are the kinds of people that they are going to get the “privilege” to vote for.




    We nuke them, someone nukes us. Do you want to live during a nuclear war, if you are even “lucky” enough to survive that is. I thought you got banned, what happened to that?
     
  20. shameless_heifer

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    LMAOOOO.. what can I say.. lets dance..

    russia??? lol the heck with russia me n tarzan is dancin'..woohooo doing the banana shake
     

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