The fundamental problem with this argument, is that the two arguing parties have a different definition of what equates intelligence.
Really dave??? Just what was it that I said then that you were referring to when you said; Also, at the same time, could you point out where it was that you were telling me WHY they are semantics??
You missed the "semantic" bit in my post in that the actual use of IQ was semantic, it was a reference point (as it's used to describe profound retardation) it wasn't actually used as a hard 20. the 20 was semantic, hell, the iq test's very existence was semantic, it was just a reference point to get us on the same page That's why you misunderstood what I was saying, This post.
That it doesn't matter if there was in fact an I.Q. test or not? You do realize for some people they just estimate their i.q.'s because they CAN'T test them and school districts require a number for how much money they can put nto the kid. the test, and whether the kid can\does the test or not matters, in reality, but, for the sake of this discussion, and whether all people are equal or not. it doesn't matter.
dave, I'm not going to continue arguing with you on this subject... you can take that whatever way you want, and im positive you'll take it as me being unable or incapable of counter arguing your points. if you're so sure that YOU are in fact absolutely correct why do you keep arguing with us morons? we obviously lack the logic to comprehend all of your regurgitated shit, why not find a more intelligent forum?!
Which has absolutely ZERO to do with what I was saying Dave. Once again, you are trying to argue with me that all people aren't equal, when I stated right from the start that I agree that all people aren't equal... Maybe the writing is to small for a brain as large as yours to see... let me help... I AGREE THAT ALL PEOPLE ARE NOT EQUAL.
Now, why the hell do you think anything I say is regurgitated? oh, yeah, because I haven't "lived" it. why the hell did you even start the argument? honestly, if you were just going to throw non-quantifiable shit, that can't be backed up, can't be verified, has no means by which to be examined in any way? it's not a valid argument if it cannot be proven, that's why somethings are apologetics, not arguments. if you want to have a spiritual discussion, about non quantifiable information, I would be more than happy. but if you want to claim that there is data, that there can't possibly be, I am going to call you on it. because that is bull.
And ~ VOILA ~ there you have it! Wisdom of the ages, in a nutshell. OR, considering the author, in a nutSACK! :rofl:
Stacey Lulu, I get the feeling that you are intelligent but you just don't focus your energy on intellectual pursuits. As a result, you don't yet have the skills to dissect and disassemble lunarverse's rants about quantum physics and energy sperm. If you did have the skills you would see that lunarverse is not really living on planet earth. I know that sounded facetious and sarcastic but I actually have a lot of respect for people who spend more time existing than discussing the finer points of their existence. Do you know what I am saying?
i gots to disagree ~ there ARE geniuses amongst us, right here on HF, and it's their "fans" that build them up, as well as the intelligent replies they make.
well thank you but I wasnt talking about me. Yes I was very confused with luna's thoughts but to think of that out of nowhere interests me. I love different thoughts. Lunas a canuck. I know what my intellegents are, my thought was just wanting to gain more. but I realize that the debaters are older than me so they had more studies than me so im just basically here to hear their opinions about everything. I agree with you about the finer points, I can speak out more about that but after this thread I made. I guess I was doing some sort of test and turns out that even the smartest or how you see them as "smart" can be dumb asses too