Help me with Rivea corymobosa, Ololiuqui seed

With rivea i honestly feel no need to extract. grinding up helps as it makes it easer to absorb, and an extract would in theory make it even easier to absorb...but i always worry i will be missing or destroying some. With rivea i have NEVER fealt sick, and therefor feel eating the whole lot is perfectly ok.

with vendor bought seeds i always need over 80 to start feeling everything. i am growing my own and tried up to 55 fresh seeds (2 days old) and only *started* to feel its effects....so i am going to go out and say that fresher isn't really stronger.... i wouls start with 80 seeds and work up by 10-15 each time until you find what works for you....thats my opnion anyway.

 

Whatkind of effects did you have? I read from a site recommended dosage is something between 15 to 35. It starts to get really expensive with larger dosages. If you compare to babywoodrose for example. But i'll drink it soon. I think it was around 25~~ish seeds.

 

you shouldn't worry too much about this man, just drink it and plan for absolutley nothing to happen. That way you can only be pleased from there on.

 

so like, how come you havent just eaten them? i'd would have never let them sit around that long, just wondering if they were gunna work or not. tell you the best extraction method, and the best grinder to use too. use your mouth as the grinder, some chip to mask the taste if they taste bad and to help you be able to chew them longer so you can extract, and absorb it at the same time, sublingually. then swallow them so your stomach can pick up any leftover lsa's from the seeds. its the easiest, least time consuming, and most economic way to ingest the seeds. none of the alkaloids get lost in this extraction process. and if you do use cold water, you dont have to filter it if your a straight up sav, just beast it out and swallow those little bits of seed with the water. thats the second best method i think, just like eating them straight but without the sublingual absorption boost. i always trip harder when i actually chew up some seeds.

 

i totally agree. but my teeth are not very good and the seeds are hard once dried....so i would persoanlly recomend grinding them up at least a little to help with the chewing.

 

Heya,

No, nothing happened. No nausea, no visuals. I ended up the night in sedative overdose after waiting 8 hours for nothing. I grinded and mixed in water about 20-25 seeds.

 

ya, probably need more. i am not sure where the 10-20 seeds thing came from. i have tried day old seeds and still find that more are needed. try around 70 next time and see how ya feel

 

Yeah, i suppose even the informative sites for recreational use are sort of ad-based, rather than based on facts. Now that i think of it, the place i read the recommended dosage had a link to the place i bought the seeds from. Pretty funny. Yeah i suppose more is needed. But i doubt i'll be buying more of these for a while. I got about 30 more left to rot. Should have taken em all at once. Was just testing em, got more woodroses

What do you think about mixing this stuff with woodrose?

 

same substance. i say thumbs all the way up

 

yeah, you should save some and plant them though. at least you know they work if you got the sedated feeling. so did you drink the seed mash too, or filter it?

 

I drank the seeds in the water without filtering.

 

I dont know where you ppl got the 15-20 seeds idea... I ground up 200 seeds put them in cold water .. waited a few hrs then drank the whole thing.. I got good visuals...Mostly walls breathing thing and a great body buzz... very good feeling... I used a coffee grinder so they were ground pretty good

 

no more or less than 30 minutes. hats off to Ancient Powers =p

 

UPDATE..... I took 300 seeds lastnight...same way as before except I poured orange juice in them just to make them go down easier... after about 1 hr I started to feel them.. another hr i was having very nice feeling of extreme bliss.. very nice visuals .. not hallucinations like acid.. I felt like my body needed stimulation so went out in pool with wife.. spent awhile out their then had sex... phisicall stimulation is great on these but I did notice I didnt want to be around alot of ppl.. definely not a party drug... also I noticed I have a few peaks.. I would sit and then not notice the effects as much but when I moved around they would get more intense... all in all a very nice time