here's an argument against gay marriage that i've not yet heard

Discussion in 'Politics' started by soulrebel51, Dec 20, 2005.

  1. Megara

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    its about consent.

    An animal can never give consent
    a minor cannot give consent(under the current laws).

    A grown adult can give consent. Why can't 3 or more adults marry each other? If we define marriage as something more than just a male/female why do we have to stop at only male/male, female/female, male/female and not include male/male/female, female/female/male, ad infinitum?

    to those who say "gay marriage is the only thing being brought up, anything else that is brought up is irrelevant:" Well, our legal system doesn't work that way. If gay marriage is allowed, it sets up a precadent that marriage can be something more than just a male and a female.

    Now, i'm not saying that gay marriage shouldn't be allowed(i personally dont give a fuck), but i think if we allow gay marriage we should also allow polygamy....
     
  2. Thats a really good point.

    Truth is i don't really see a problem with polygamy. Its just very different to what our rigid culture is concerned with. For that reason and the polygamy argument, maybe we shouldn't allow gay marriages. I personally have no porblem with either of those things. Its quite complicated but i know what you mean.

    I never thought about it in a "consent" sort of context. It really makes sense.
     
  3. BlackGuardXIII

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    I am glad that gay marriage is becoming legally recognized, and gay couples are no longer discriminated against. They deserve every legal benefit legal marriage brings. I was being facetious in my title comment. It is too bad if gay marriage makes some people uneasy, it isn't really anything to do with them. It's not like their straight marriage is now lessened. It is a win/win situation.
    Marriage requires commitment, and it is an institution, so if you want to be committed to an institution...
    I have one question regarding the ceremony, though. Traditionally the bride is given away by her father, a ritual that symbolizes the change of ownership of the bride from the father to the groom, her new owner.... so in a gay marriage, how would that work?
     
  4. Megara

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    well...more married couples = less tax revenue = big problems.
     
  5. ha...megara, the government always has a vested interest!

    ;)
     
  6. Megara

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    government will never want to give up money.
     
  7. Thats why we have thousands of gambling addicts in my state and only charities want to do something about it - gambling revenue accounts for something like 10% of our tax revenue.
     
  8. Thats why we have thousands of gambling addicts in my state and only charities want to do something about it - gambling revenue accounts for something like 10% of our tax money
     
  9. spooner

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    Do what exactly? Disallow gambling?
     
  10. not necessarily - simply make it less accessible and less widespread. It was only a few years ago that poker machines were allowed in hotels and not just the casino but since then there has been a large increase in gambling addiction. Its quite a complicated problem - as far as my opinion goes they should severely restrict gambling, but thats to do with my beliefs.Anyway its not relavent to this thread, if you want to discuss it let me know
     
  11. spooner

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    It's very relevant to the thread, actually. It becomes a question of can a government legislate morality?
     
  12. ok, very interesting point

    Funny thing is I support the legalisation of Gay marriages, prostitution and marijuana. But not gambling, that really got me thinking. Thanks spooner
     
  13. OSF

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  14. spooner

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    How is it not hypocritical to ban gambling and and at the same time legalise dope? The arguments about gambling (either that it is morally wrong, or addictive) apply equally to marijuana.

    And yes, I know pot isn't chemically addictive. But neither is gambling.
     
  15. The arguments not black and white jonny 2 mad, there are reaons why i might support one and not the other. The ultimate question is to what right do we have we to legislate the actions of people.

    And I don't want to ban gambling, just restrict it back to the casino and sporting outlets, which is the way it used to be - and back then you didn't see poor people fucking off their money sitting on the pokies all day with a cigarette and a beer in every pub or restaurant you went to.
     
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