Hillary Clinton

I fully understand this and I agree with it also. But:

I don't get this. What else are they suppose to do? They simply live there. Should they stop breathing or leave because they have no trust in their government? Leaving only works for people who hate everything about their country, most 'just' have a big dislike for their government and maybe most media.

 

Hillary Clinton is a self-serving monster.

 

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What are you going to vote, Aeri?

 

National Polling Averages
Updated Sep. 21, 2016, 12:00 AM



40.9%
Clinton



40%
Trump



8.6%
Johnson


3%
Stein








http://www.usatoday....n/poll-tracker/

 

I am not voting for Hillary Clinton.

 

If you don't wanna tell it is ok too. So I take it you are not gonna use your vote?

 

Ha ha ha...Nice try.

I'm not going to publicly reveal anything other than to confirm that I will not be voting for Hillary Clinton.

 

That's ok. I was just wondering. But I already knew you dislike Clinton a lot so I already figured it wasn't going to be her

 

Coincidentally, the USA and the Netherlands both instituted Secret Ballot voting in 1849.

 

Fair enough.

I'm not here to attack Hillary. I don't care for her, but I don't care for the Democratic party (or the Republican party either, to clarify) as a whole. I don't place her on a higher pedestal of evil as some do.

I think Trump is the culmination of all that is wrong with America. And yet, I'm not willing to turn a blind eye to the faults of the other candidate, the other party, just because Trump.

Trump should not be treated as an argument for the failed policies of the Democratic party .

I'm not ignorant to American or world history, I'm not ignorant to the history of the stupidity of the human race - I really don't know what point you're trying to make with your remark that I should read some history. Because humans have always mucked it up, we shouldn't discuss how we're mucking it up currently, or if we do we can only discuss the worst of the evil and the other team gets a pass? Or what?

 

To me Clinton and Trump together is really a more complete culmination of what is wrong with America.

We still ask each other what we vote all the time here, though. Also in the public eye. But it is really normal to answer with 'I'm not telling'. For which there are sensible reasons. I find it a bit unfortunate in a discussion forum though, but its ok

 

There's always third party voting.

Voting for someone whose ideas you align with is not a wasted vote.

It's a vote to say that you are not pleased with the status quo and that you'd prefer to see the country go in a different direction.

You don't have to feel compelled to vote for "the lesser of two evils".

Vote your truth.

 

It's the only way to vote for me. If I couldn't I would say the democracy has failed.

I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

 

Hillary is the same old, same old. That it remains the same old is THE reason why a lot of progressive left leaning people got fed up with the democrat party. That's one big reason why people don't want her (I thought). These people I am talking about would still vote for that party if Sanders was the presidential candidate.

 

We have an October surprise coming up. Hillary already knows wikileaks will release more dirt when the time is right. So I'm pretty sure a false flag terror attack is around the corner in a few short weeks. Not from wikileaks, but instead from team Clinton. Be ready for it.

 

You don't understand why people are overwhelmingly negative when our governing bodies are serving billionaires and corporations over the citizenry? All I can say is "Get used to it."

You don't understand why people survive? Why did people bother to survive in concentration camps? Because we have hope, we look to the future, and life is precious. Corruption is just BS in the grand scheme of things. What I don't understand is why these corrupt, sold-out politicians bother to survive, because they are absolutely worthless.

I don't see that in this thread, though I would argue that the majority of government is corrupt. Mainly this thread has been about how Hillary Clinton is corrupt, something which you wholeheartedly refuse to believe. I have argued that the FBI and the Justice Department are corrupt, and I think they are. I think they willingly choose not to uphold the laws of the United States when it comes to certain individuals.

The things the government does that we don't like which we discuss are just examples of widespread government corruption. We have something called Citizens United which allows corporations to buy elections because the Supreme Court regards corporations as "people" and entitled to freedom of speech, which is absolutely preposterous. How can you not see the corruption in this country? How can you be so complacent?

Read up on Mother Theresa. She wasn't as saintly as you have been led to believe.

I'm not sure why you think the precedent of evil set throughout history makes it okay in the modern era. It's not okay, and the people are fed up. We've had enough of this idea that there are the elite and the peasant class. We were fed up with that idea two hundred years ago. Like it or not, Hillary is a figurehead of this agenda.

Drumpf is what happens when our government is too corrupt to take seriously anymore. Drumpf is what happens when people pay no attention to government -- when they are discouraged from engaging in politics because they feel that their voice makes no difference. He is what happens when we are subjected to a corrupt system in which only two major parties have a chance in Hell at holding public office, so we continually vote for the "lesser of two evils." If we could trust our government, there would be no Drumpf.

The reason people speak in memes is because there is no longer any point for many people in cohesively arguing their side. They believe what they see with their own eyes, and they're sick of even humoring the idea that there is another side to the story.

That is unacceptable. And has been unacceptable throughout history, which is a big reason elitist governments fail time and time again. Corruption is not something people have to ever accept as an inevitability, and is something we won't accept as an inevitability. Someday humanity has to grow up, or we will stagnate and die.

There are too many people in this country like that. But I don't think we're talking about the same class of people.

The people of the USA deserve what all of the people throughout human history have deserved, which is love, compassion, and respect.

 

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