Hillary Clinton

I humbly disagree, while she lost the electoral vote she’s currently leading in the popular vote count by almost 400K


Hotwater

 

I'm saying that Bernie Sanders might have won the Presidency for the Democrats if they hadn't screwed him out of the running.

 

Whatever errors there were - the fact is that either the/any mistakes that made in the past should not be repeated - but sadly, History tells us that although we should and could, too often - they tend to be so
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The wake up call ought to have been heard, and for the future - for that is where hope lies, a re-calculation of strategic planning is required
((btw this applies to the UK too!))

 

The way I figure it, Hillary is the real winner in all of this.

She won the chance to retire and die of natural causes.

On the other side, there's a good chance Trump will get shot at before inauguration! Did you see the pictures of him with Obama? Trump looked ready to shit his pants.

 

and Pence will be better for the country?

I do not advocate violence in any way, no matter how much I cannot stand someone.

 

I am curious if those 400k (actually I thought it was 1.5 million) lived in the mid west doing farm work instead of in their high rise if they would still vote for someone that is in cohorts with the banks that are trying to take away those farms.

 

Maybe if we March and protest we will find out.

 

Did they ever come up with definite proof that it was the Russians?

 

Please provide the quotes from these top Russian officials. I would like to see that.
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In a statement from the director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., and the Department of Homeland Security, the government said the leaked emails that have appeared on a variety of websites “are intended to interfere with the U.S. election process.” The emails were posted on the well-known WikiLeaks site and two newer sites, DCLeaks.com and Guccifer 2.0, identified as being associated with Russian intelligence.

“We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities,” the statement said. ~ NY Times.
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The U.S. government believes Putin might have interfered in the presidential election. The intelligence community has concluded that Russia was responsible for hacking into the emails of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and gave them to WikiLeaks, which released them. Some embarrassed and damaged the Clinton campaign.
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So, the question remains: Did they ever come up with definite proof that the Russian State is responsible for the hacking and the exposing of Clinton as a grossly negligent high security risk?

 

She's blaming the FBI now for losing. Of course it was them.

Dirty tricks and politics.

 

Yeah, pretty rotten all of it....It is nice to know that Putin is controlling what goes on here now...

I kept thinking about this Halloween thread I did one year the whole time the witch hunt was gong on about Hillary....
As you can see, in my doll illustration, the ugly are doing the burning of the the "so called witch..."

I called this photo illustration Burn Witch Burn....sad......really...and i don't know what to do about it.

 

The Pixies aren't the same band as they were in the old days

 

You said that three top Russian officials even admitted it. So I asked you to provide the quotes from these three Russian officials you speak of. You failed to do so. Instead, you explain to me that the government will never reveal what it knows. So your answer is to accept the word of the entire intelligence community . . . like you do.
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WASHINGTON -- Long before blaming North Korea for the attack on Sony Pictures and its film "The Interview," officials say U.S. intelligence was monitoring North Korea's attempts to hack into computer systems of American companies.

Part of that effort involved a secret 2010 infiltration carried out by the U.S. National Security Agency, according to the New York Times. The NSA reportedly hacked into North Korean computer networks and inserted malware, allowing analysts to track the North's cyber operations.

Over time the U.S. was able to identify specific addresses used by hackers working for the North Korean government. Now those same computer IDs have been linked to threats sent to Sony, according to FBI Director James Comey.

"We could see that the IP addresses that were being used to post and to send the e-mails were coming from IPs that were exclusively used by the North Koreans," said Comey.

Comey revealed the evidence this month to a New York cyber conference to publicly bolster the U.S. case against North Korea. The regime has denied the attack and independent cyber analysts have questioned the FBI's conclusions. But Comey is not backing down. "I have very high confidence about this attribution, as does the entire intelligence community," said Comey.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-the-u-s-government-was-sure-north-korea-hacked-sony/
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However:

US cybersecurity experts say they have solid evidence that a former employee helped hack Sony Pictures Entertainment’s computer system — and that it was not masterminded by North Korean cyberterrorists.

One leading cybersecurity firm, Norse Corp., said Monday it has narrowed its list of suspects to a group of six people — including at least one Sony veteran with the necessary technical background to carry out the attack, according to reports.

The investigation of the Sony hacking by the private companies stands in stark contrast to the finding of the FBI, which said Dec. 19 its probe traced the hacking — which ended up foiling the planned wide release of the Hollywood studio’s “The Interview” — to North Korea.

http://nypost.com/2014/12/30/new-evidence-sony-hack-was-inside-job-cyber-experts/
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So, you'll have to forgive me for requiring more than just simple faith in an authority you vouch for. After all, that kind of misplaced faith in the Intelligence community is what led to the invasion of Iraq, and the killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings over nonexistent WMDs.

Here are the intelligence agencies you are referring to:

Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

One has to wonder what the Coast Guard Intelligence, the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency or the Drug Enforcement Administration know about John Podesta’s emails? Only two intelligence entities--the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the Department of Homeland Security--have weighed in on this issue, not 17 intelligence agencies.
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Now, where are those quotes from the three Russian officials you were referring to?

 

I don't care what country the "hackers" came from (if your email password is "p@ssword" you're just asking for it). Whoever they are, they deserve humanitarian awards for exposing government corruption. And Julian Assange should be pardoned and freed from the Ecuadorian embassy.

 

Storch I don't know why you try. She defends to the end that there is no proof when it's someone she likes but when it's not its OK to just assume when the evidence looks like it might be true.

 

I'm sorry...I don't get the reference here to what i posted....
I had to look Pixies up to try to figure it out and still cannot.

 

What are you talking about even?

 

I disagree....Asange was an errand boy there to take down Hillary...no one else....and I believe that. I saw with my own eyes the timing of everything....
If someone is walking down the street in a mini skirt, are they asking for it , too?
and here we go again...round and round the same circle, and it does not matter anymore, obviously. Your guy won. be happy!