Hillary Clinton

I call Bullshit I am sure of one thing. You love it. I can see you now with a smug grin after you spend 2 hours googling various facts and figures to prove that some trump supporter made a mistake in a quote they posted.

 

She knows

 

I remember when the democrats thought he was a hero, and the republicans thought he was a traitor. Don't you?

 

No, because I never paid attention to him or wiki leaks until this election....I had my head buried in the sand somewhere....

Not that I paid attention to wiki leaks....but at least I knew what it it was this time.

 

It was making a fairly loose connection there. I don't understand Paganism very well

 

I don't understand paganism, either, but I have heard about the salem witch trials all of my life, and I am an artist....so...hence the doll photograph....I rather paint than illustrate with dolls, though...

I don't tell stories with dolls and photos anymore. I used to before I came to this forum for a few years. I belonged to a doll forum before here.

I don't know why everything I am typing is getting underlined right now, so my apologies about that. I don't want to start over with what i said here.

 

Okay, first of all, how the fuck did I get the weed shop in my post.

Second of all, you are going to be changing your position on WikiLeaks MeAgain. They did what they did with the information they had. They thought it was their duty to the American people to expose people for what they were, and they were right to do it. If there is anybody in Trump's headquarters with an ounce of integrity, they'll be giving us the shit on Donald too.

 

This is what you offer when asked to show that three Russian officials have admitted to hacking the DNC:

He denied allegations of Russian interference in the election, but said “maybe we helped a bit with WikiLeaks.”
“Tonight we can use the slogan with Mr. Trump; Yes We Did.”
“It turns out that the United Russia has won the elections in the United States!”
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And you're basing your whole argument on the word "maybe"? Okay. I believe that if you would look into Russia's fear of war with the U.S. and Clinton's threats, you'll see that those second and third quotes you've put up have to do with their perception of winning because Trump has not threatened to go to war with them.

Also, my point about North Korea was not to show you that the FBI is fallible. It was to show you that despite Comey's assurance that the entire Intelligence community is highly confident in their assessment that North Korea had hacked Sony, they were shown to be at odds with leading cybersecurity experts; as was also the case with the nonexistent WMDs in Iraq that caused the death of hundreds of thousands of civilians. The only thing that invalidates the two Intelligence entities that allege that Russia hacked the DNC is that they have no evidence. Of course, your solution to that deficiency is to claim that the U.S. is not obligated to prove their case.

And it's humorous that you talk about my alleged belief that Russia would never think of interfering in our affairs. You really sound like you are oblivious to the history of U.S. interference in the affairs of foreign nations. But I know that you're really not oblivious to that. So why do you focus on the idea of Russian interference while ignoring the history of U.S. interference? I mean I know that you don't want to appear hypocritical or biased, so will you admit that interfering in the affairs of others is how the U.S. conducts itself when it comes to foreign policy?

 

Julian Assange, by the way is still living in the Ecuador Embassy in London, if he leaves he will still be arrested because the American government and it's diplomatic ties with Sweden and so on

I doubt Hilary would pardon him. I honestly couldn't see that happening.

 

And now that Neon' has brought up the point, what exactly is your problem with Clinton being exposed as a high security risk (among other things) for allowing classified information to pass through her private email server. Would you rather that that go unnoticed and unaddressed?

 

if he had been finding dirt on both parties, he would have more credibility. Surely no one expects us to believe the GOP was pure as fresh snow, and there was nothing to find. Asange is no different from any other biased partisan source.

 

Just fucking shocking. Anthony Wiener, sexting away on a device filled with White House e-mails. You couldn't make this shit up.

 

Oh damn.
Americans don't like a foreign leader to control and decide what happens in their country.

Did Hillary "We came, we saw, he died" Clinton get the memo?

 

No. I expect you to provide the quotes from three Russian officials who admitted to hacking the DNC. I asked you to back up that claim. The quotes you provided are in no way confessions.

Also, my point about North Korea and the Sony hack was to show you that the assessment of the entire Intelligence community was at odds with leading cybersecurity experts. And yeah, they didn't get the Iraq WMD right, and yeah it resulted in the destruction of a country and the death of lots and lots of innocent civilians who were not Saddam Hussein. Pretty major fuck-up, I'd say.

And even now, you are parroting the idea that two agencies equals seventeen.

But more to the point here, what exactly is your problem with Clinton being exposed as a high security risk (among other things) for allowing classified information to pass through her private email server. Would you rather that that go unnoticed and unaddressed? Is it really a non issue with you?

Oh, and what about the U.S. interfering in the affairs of other countries? You okay with that?